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    Wakeup
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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,06:37)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you trying to be deceitful or disagreeable?
    There are other fringe sects as well, which amount
    to less than 4% of the total besides Sunni Shiite muslims.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    The riches arab country,followed the wahabi islam.
    And there are many more different sects,beside the suni and the shiite.

    Anyway; Horns = kings.
    Horns can not be interpreted as religion,this is mixing up prophesy symbols, and that is not being honest.

    That is cheating.
    10 horns can not be interpreted as 10 religious sects can it? no,of course not.

    wakeup.

    #315135
    Ed J
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    Hi Wakeup,

    Horns represent “power” as in rulership such as Kings or Kingdoms.

     * Kings in the bible are those that rule the kingdom, simple!
     * Muhammad was not a king, yet he ruled. (Dan.11:36-39)
     * The Prime Minister of Brittan is not a king, yet he rules.
     * The President of the U.S.A. is not a king, yet he rules.

    The two horns of the Rev.13:11 beast are (1)Shite and (2)Sunni.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315147
    journey42
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    Yes Pierre,

    This false prophet could never save us.  But the world don't have a saviour, so to them he is their saviour, because it's the material things they are concerned with. This is why they are fooled by him, because he can give it back, but we are not fooled, and we wont accept him to save our lives, or our material things, that's why we will not conform to his new system.  We will be outcasts, considered rejects & rebells.  They will find new homes for us alright, in the FEMA prison camps.  They will force us to go there.  Once we are there, nobody will know what they are doing to us.  Just like with the Jews.  Many slaughtered and no-one knew except for the soldiers.  If we take the mark, they will release us from the prison, we will have 10 days to make that decision in there.


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    J42

    We're do you get this ??? This I never came across in scriptures ,so we're does it say that ???


    Pierre

    There are wicked men in high places.  They are in the background.  You cannot see them.  They are very very rich and feed of greed.  As we all know, to have money is power. They like to play the world like a game of chess, and the leaders of the world eat our of their palms.
    These elite have an agenda, and they will do whatever it takes to make that plan work for them.  These are the men that secretly cause wars between nations.  They hire men to stir trouble, and when uprisings occur, laws change.  The troubles even in the middle east are caused by them.  These men however, have Satan, their father guiding them, for he also has  his own agenda.  But God has an agenda too, and he allows this to happen for his own purposes.

    The agenda of Satan, is to bring in his man, the false prophet.  He will give this man all his power, and by his power, he will deceive all nations.  The agenda of Satan?  To kill all the true believers that follow the Most High Almighty God.  Why?  Because the scriptures tell us that the Devil was cast out of his estate (heaven) when Jesus conquered death, and he, the Devil has come down having great wrath.  The devil sends a flood out after the woman's seed (Zion/true believers) and his wrath didn't stop back then, when he was kicked out of heaven, but it continues, and only God can slow down, or speed up his plan.

    So, for Satan's plan to take shape, he plays with these elite, (who worship him directly), and they play with the leaders of the world.  Because these elite want total control of our money system, they purposely bankrupt nations.  
    For instance,
    they carry out a terrorist attack, blame it on the muslems,
    cause an uproar, sow seeds of hate on both sides, entice the people of their nation to take their side, justify their intent,
    go to war, and spend billions on military, to fool their people into thinking they are protecting them,
    then they get other nations side with them, which do the same,
    and at the same time, they allow their banks to lend out huge amounts of money to people who cannot afford to pay them back,
    so they raise taxes, cut off services, close businesses, raise unemployment, purposely send their country into bankruptcy, knowing that other nations will follow, send the world into utter chaos, then introduce a new money system that they can control, and spread this idea to the whole world.  The stage is set.

    So now, with what is going on in the West, the economies are collapsing.  This has been purposely planned out.  

    But we know from the scriptures, that there is an end time beast coming, and this beast produces a leader, and we know that this leader has been given all power to introduce a new money system, so that no one can buy or sell unless he accepts this system.  And people with no knowledge, will be forced to accept.  But we who know, because our Lord revealed it to us, will not accept this new system that comes from the Devil.  We know his purpose, to fully initiate all that belong to his kingdom with a mark, bearing his signature, and name.  We know from the scriptures that the false prophet will kill all who do not accept his new system, and this mark,  and the ones that won't accept are the true believers.  Pierre, we know what they are going to do to us, for it is foretold and can't be changed.  We know about these FEMA camps they have already.  Look it up on you tube.  They are telling us it's for other reasons, like refugee camps, or detention centres, but we know what they are really for, because we were warned by our Lord already what they are going to do.  China is producing massive amounts of guillotines for the West, and you just have to put two and two together.

    There is nothing new done under the sun.  Everything they will do has been done before.  Hitler murdered millions of Jews, and now this man, the false prophet will do the same, only he will murder the “spiritual jews” this time.

    And God's agenda?  Let them carry out their plans, so that Christ can have full vengeance on them, and in the meantime he can sift through all his children, to see which ones are willing to go all the way for him by not denying his name even till death.  They can only kill us once, but God can kill us twice if we not with him.
    And Christ comes with his reward, so when it's all finished, we have conquered death, and inherit EVERYTHING that belongs to our Father.  Nothing compares to that. I know it's going to be hard. It's bitter sweet, and we are not alone. Jesus comes soon, and we should focus on that. The day we long for.

    Revelation 2:10   Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

    #315149
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 08 2012,12:36)
    Pierre,

    The agenda of Satan, is to bring in his man, the false prophet.  He will give this man all his power, and by his power,
    he will deceive all nations.  The agenda of Satan?  To kill all the true believers that follow the Most High Almighty God.  


    Hi Georgie,

    Wow, you're describing what the muslims are doing to a tee.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315155
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 08 2012,19:36)

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    Yes Pierre,

    This false prophet could never save us.  But the world don't have a saviour, so to them he is their saviour, because it's the material things they are concerned with. This is why they are fooled by him, because he can give it back, but we are not fooled, and we wont accept him to save our lives, or our material things, that's why we will not conform to his new system.  We will be outcasts, considered rejects & rebells.  They will find new homes for us alright, in the FEMA prison camps.  They will force us to go there.  Once we are there, nobody will know what they are doing to us.  Just like with the Jews.  Many slaughtered and no-one knew except for the soldiers.  If we take the mark, they will release us from the prison, we will have 10 days to make that decision in there.


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    J42

    We're do you get this ??? This I never came across in scriptures ,so we're does it say that ???


    Pierre

    There are wicked men in high places.  They are in the background.  You cannot see them.  They are very very rich and feed of greed.  As we all know, to have money is power. They like to play the world like a game of chess, and the leaders of the world eat our of their palms.
    These elite have an agenda, and they will do whatever it takes to make that plan work for them.  These are the men that secretly cause wars between nations.  They hire men to stir trouble, and when uprisings occur, laws change.  The troubles even in the middle east are caused by them.  These men however, have Satan, their father guiding them, for he also has  his own agenda.  But God has an agenda too, and he allows this to happen for his own purposes.

    The agenda of Satan, is to bring in his man, the false prophet.  He will give this man all his power, and by his power, he will deceive all nations.  The agenda of Satan?  To kill all the true believers that follow the Most High Almighty God.  Why?  Because the scriptures tell us that the Devil was cast out of his estate (heaven) when Jesus conquered death, and he, the Devil has come down having great wrath.  The devil sends a flood out after the woman's seed (Zion/true believers) and his wrath didn't stop back then, when he was kicked out of heaven, but it continues, and only God can slow down, or speed up his plan.

    So, for Satan's plan to take shape, he plays with these elite, (who worship him directly), and they play with the leaders of the world.  Because these elite want total control of our money system, they purposely bankrupt nations.  
    For instance,
    they carry out a terrorist attack, blame it on the muslems,
    cause an uproar, sow seeds of hate on both sides, entice the people of their nation to take their side, justify their intent,
    go to war, and spend billions on military, to fool their people into thinking they are protecting them,
    then they get other nations side with them, which do the same,
    and at the same time, they allow their banks to lend out huge amounts of money to people who cannot afford to pay them back,
    so they raise taxes, cut off services, close businesses, raise unemployment, purposely send their country into bankruptcy, knowing that other nations will follow, send the world into utter chaos, then introduce a new money system that they can control, and spread this idea to the whole world.  The stage is set.

    So now, with what is going on in the West, the economies are collapsing.  This has been purposely planned out.  

    But we know from the scriptures, that there is an end time beast coming, and this beast produces a leader, and we know that this leader has been given all power to introduce a new money system, so that no one can buy or sell unless he accepts this system.  And people with no knowledge, will be forced to accept.  But we who know, because our Lord revealed it to us, will not accept this new system that comes from the Devil.  We know his purpose, to fully initiate all that belong to his kingdom with a mark, bearing his signature, and name.  We know from the scriptures that the false prophet will kill all who do not accept his new system, and this mark,  and the ones that won't accept are the true believers.  Pierre, we know what they are going to do to us, for it is foretold and can't be changed.  We know about these FEMA camps they have already.  Look it up on you tube.  They are telling us it's for other reasons, like refugee camps, or detention centres, but we know what they are really for, because we were warned by our Lord already what they are going to do.  China is producing massive amounts of guillotines for the West, and you just have to put two and two together.

    There is nothing new done under the sun.  Everything they will do has been done before.  Hitler murdered millions of Jews, and now this man, the false prophet will do the same, only he will murder the “spiritual jews” this time.

    And God's agenda?  Let them carry out their plans, so that Christ can have full vengeance on them, and in the meantime he can sift through all his children, to see which ones are willing to go all the way for him by not denying his name even till death.  They can only kill us once, but God can kill us twice if we not with him.
    And Christ comes with his reward, so when it's all finished, we have conquered death, and inherit EVERYTHING that belongs to our Father.  Nothing compares to that.  I know it's going to be hard.  It's bitter sweet, and we are not alone. Jesus comes soon, and we should focus on that.  The day we long for.

    Revelation 2:10   Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.


    J42

    thanks ,for the effort to put this quote together ,but I can not see those things you describe in the scriptures ,I do agree with you of what the Jews have suffered in second w.w.

    Satan to me does not have to do anything ,beside to influence certain man,or certain events ;

    but the real judgment that going on is us living according to the gospel of Gods son,it is US that Satan want s to corrupt,

    this world was corrupted when he corrupt Adam this done the opposition to God was created ,this is the war for men that is going on;what happen in that world is an increase of violence what is a normal development in time ,the greed of men will all ways increase until God stop it,

    but to us that love God and his son ,we do not follow that way of live ,and because of it we will not have the mark of the beast but the mark of the son,but to receive the mark of the son we have to be a complete believer “heart and soul and deeds.

    we as a class of true believers we do not follow this world ,we only can invite other to escape from it like Job did ;Ge 19:12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—so
    ns-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here,
    Ge 19:13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”
    Ge 19:14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the LORD is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

    what the world will do is the world problem ,what God will allow to happen to us ,is Gods decision not ours,

    either way we can not do anything for it but pray to God,this is not our fight but our judgment to be in the first resurrection.so our fight is within us and the spirit of this world.

    #315169
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,10:05)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Horns represent “power” as in rulership such as Kings or Kingdoms.

     * Kings in the bible are those that rule the kingdom, simple!
     * Muhammad was not a king, yet he ruled. (Dan.11:36-39)
     * The Prime Minister of Brittan is not a king, yet he rules.
     * The President of the U.S.A. is not a king, yet he rules.

    The two horns of the Rev.13:11 beast are (1)Shite and (2)Sunni.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    A president,or priminister of a nation,or a tsar, or supreme leader of n.kore,fuhrer.They are all called kings,in the old days.

    Bacause those titles was not known back then.

    This does not give you the authority to change prophesy symbols as you please.

    Horns means kings in the old days,all leaders are kings.
    Horns can never be correctly interpreted as religion.

    wakeup.

    #315172
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,14:18)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 08 2012,19:36)

    Quote
    Yes Pierre,

    This false prophet could never save us.  But the world don't have a saviour, so to them he is their saviour, because it's the material things they are concerned with. This is why they are fooled by him, because he can give it back, but we are not fooled, and we wont accept him to save our lives, or our material things, that's why we will not conform to his new system.  We will be outcasts, considered rejects & rebells.  They will find new homes for us alright, in the FEMA prison camps.  They will force us to go there.  Once we are there, nobody will know what they are doing to us.  Just like with the Jews.  Many slaughtered and no-one knew except for the soldiers.  If we take the mark, they will release us from the prison, we will have 10 days to make that decision in there.


    Quote
    J42

    We're do you get this ??? This I never came across in scriptures ,so we're does it say that ???


    Pierre

    There are wicked men in high places.  They are in the background.  You cannot see them.  They are very very rich and feed of greed.  As we all know, to have money is power. They like to play the world like a game of chess, and the leaders of the world eat our of their palms.
    These elite have an agenda, and they will do whatever it takes to make that plan work for them.  These are the men that secretly cause wars between nations.  They hire men to stir trouble, and when uprisings occur, laws change.  The troubles even in the middle east are caused by them.  These men however, have Satan, their father guiding them, for he also has  his own agenda.  But God has an agenda too, and he allows this to happen for his own purposes.

    The agenda of Satan, is to bring in his man, the false prophet.  He will give this man all his power, and by his power, he will deceive all nations.  The agenda of Satan?  To kill all the true believers that follow the Most High Almighty God.  Why?  Because the scriptures tell us that the Devil was cast out of his estate (heaven) when Jesus conquered death, and he, the Devil has come down having great wrath.  The devil sends a flood out after the woman's seed (Zion/true believers) and his wrath didn't stop back then, when he was kicked out of heaven, but it continues, and only God can slow down, or speed up his plan.

    So, for Satan's plan to take shape, he plays with these elite, (who worship him directly), and they play with the leaders of the world.  Because these elite want total control of our money system, they purposely bankrupt nations.  
    For instance,
    they carry out a terrorist attack, blame it on the muslems,
    cause an uproar, sow seeds of hate on both sides, entice the people of their nation to take their side, justify their intent,
    go to war, and spend billions on military, to fool their people into thinking they are protecting them,
    then they get other nations side with them, which do the same,
    and at the same time, they allow their banks to lend out huge amounts of money to people who cannot afford to pay them back,
    so they raise taxes, cut off services, close businesses, raise unemployment, purposely send their country into bankruptcy, knowing that other nations will follow, send the world into utter chaos, then introduce a new money system that they can control, and spread this idea to the whole world.  The stage is set.

    So now, with what is going on in the West, the economies are collapsing.  This has been purposely planned out.  

    But we know from the scriptures, that there is an end time beast coming, and this beast produces a leader, and we know that this leader has been given all power to introduce a new money system, so that no one can buy or sell unless he accepts this system.  And people with no knowledge, will be forced to accept.  But we who know, because our Lord revealed it to us, will not accept this new system that comes from the Devil.  We know his purpose, to fully initiate all that belong to his kingdom with a mark, bearing his signature, and name.  We know from the scriptures that the false prophet will kill all who do not accept his new system, and this mark,  and the ones that won't accept are the true believers.  Pierre, we know what they are going to do to us, for it is foretold and can't be changed.  We know about these FEMA camps they have already.  Look it up on you tube.  They are telling us it's for other reasons, like refugee camps, or detention centres, but we know what they are really for, because we were warned by our Lord already what they are going to do.  China is producing massive amounts of guillotines for the West, and you just have to put two and two together.

    There is nothing new done under the sun.  Everything they will do has been done before.  Hitler murdered millions of Jews, and now this man, the false prophet will do the same, only he will murder the “spiritual jews” this time.

    And God's agenda?  Let them carry out their plans, so that Christ can have full vengeance on them, and in the meantime he can sift through all his children, to see which ones are willing to go all the way for him by not denying his name even till death.  They can only kill us once, but God can kill us twice if we not with him.
    And Christ comes with his reward, so when it's all finished, we have conquered death, and inherit EVERYTHING that belongs to our Father.  Nothing compares to that.  I know it's going to be hard.  It's bitter sweet, and we are not alone. Jesus comes soon, and we should focus on that.  The day we long for.

    Revelation 2:10   Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.


    J42

    thanks ,for the effort to put this quote together ,but I can not see those things you describe in the scriptures ,I do agree with you of what the Jews have suffered in second w.w.

    Satan to me does not have to do anything ,beside to influence certain man,or certain events ;

    but the real judgment that going on is us living according to the gospel of Gods son,it is US that Satan want s to corrupt,

    this world was corrupted when he corrupt Adam this done the opposition to God was created ,this is the war for men that is going on;what happen in that world is an increase of violence what is a normal development in time ,the greed of men will all ways increase until God stop it,

    but to us that love God and his son ,we do not follow that way of live ,and because of it we will not have the mark of the beast but the mark of the son,but to receive the mark of the son we have to be a complete believer “heart and soul and deeds
    .

    we as a class of true believers we do not follow this world ,we only can invite other to escape from it like Job did ;Ge 19:12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here,
    Ge 19:13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”
    Ge 19:14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the LORD is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

    what the world will do is the world problem ,what God will allow to happen to us ,is Gods decision not ours,

    either way we can not do anything for it but pray to God,this is not our fight but our judgment to be in the first resurrection.so our fight is within us and the spirit of this world.


    Terra.

    Satan has a system and he has one third of the angels under his power,and he has thousands of years to work out his plan.

    His plan is to be the god of this planet,and control the population by force,and all worship him.

    He is the total opposite to God.
    God is light; and satan is darkness.

    God has given us a book to combat darkness,and win.
    If we follow Gods instructions we will win in the end.

    The gospels are there to give us light of understanding,
    and Jesus showing us how to live a Godly life.

    The prophesies are there to teach us things to come,so we can know what is coming ,before it happen,
    And also what had happend in the past.

    If we understand prophesies we can tell what satan is going to do next;and we can be prepared,and get ready.
    we will not be surprised, we know satans plans before it happened.

    So what is going to happen soon?
    The 10 kings have been here for a while running world affairs from behind the shadows.

    Soon they will come out of the shadows and openly run the world,with a new system of governing; and then soon after, one man will come up,and this one is the man of perdition,the false prophet,speaking lies.

    He will come up and uproot 3 of these 10 kings.
    He will take charge, with satans powers and satans mouth speaking great things.

    This man will hate the saints,and try to wipe them out.
    Just like hitler did to the jews;so he will do to all the spiritual jews.

    But by the prophesies we know that this man and his empire will only last a short time,then all will be destroyed.
    This will be a rejoicing to the saints,we will always win in the end.

    The armies of the Lord is very great,ten thousands and ten thousands of his angels.
    We may suffer for a while;but then, great rejoicing.

    We must be strong and keep the faith,and feeding and feeding on the word of God.Keep the light burning,dont let it go out.

    wakeup.

    #315174
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,16:42)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:26)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:22)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:17)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?


    Do you need the whole picture too?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Right now, the only question I have for you is:
    What do you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The League of Nation.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The league of nations=the 7th you say:
    The U.N is the 8th yousay:

    I must disagree; because the 8th was before John.
    it existed before John,and before the roman empire.
    How can it be the U.N.

    wakeup.


    Well, then you tell me who was the seventh that became the eighth.

    Or better, let me show you this.
    Rome is the sixth head/empire; the western leg lasted till 565, that is when Justinian died, he was the last emperor of the east, and the west.
    565 Ad, John died by the end of the first century.
    He was told the seventh had not yet come; so how can you say the eighth was before John, or even before Rome?

    Georg


    Pastry.

    That interpretation does not hold water,because it does not harmonise with the prophesy.

    The beast that came out of the PIT HE IS THE 8TH.
    The beast that WAS and IS NOT,HE IS THE 8TH.
    The 8th was and is not.

    The 8th was even before the Egyptian empire.

    wakeup.

    #315181
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,13:04)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 08 2012,12:36)
    Pierre,

    The agenda of Satan, is to bring in his man, the false prophet.  He will give this man all his power, and by his power,
    he will deceive all nations.  The agenda of Satan?  To kill all the true believers that follow the Most High Almighty God.  


    Hi Georgie,

    Wow, you're describing what the muslims are doing to a tee.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    No Edj

    You are misunderstanding me.
    The West are responsible.

    #315187
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 08 2012,18:31)
    Edj.

    A president,or priminister of a nation,or a tsar, or  supreme leader of n.kore,fuhrer.They are all called kings,in the old days.

    Bacause those titles was not known back then.

    This does not give you the authority to change prophesy symbols as you please.

    Horns means kings in the old days,all leaders are kings.
    Horns can never be correctly interpreted as religion.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I never said a horn represented a religion,
    where did you get this fallacy from?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315188
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 08 2012,22:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,13:04)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 08 2012,12:36)
    Pierre,

    The agenda of Satan, is to bring in his man, the false prophet.  He will give this man all his power, and by his power,
    he will deceive all nations.  The agenda of Satan?  To kill all the true believers that follow the Most High Almighty God.  


    Hi Georgie,

    Wow, you're describing what the muslims are doing to a tee.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    No Edj

    You are misunderstanding me.
    The West are responsible.


    'The West are responsible' – for what?

    #315200
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    Quote
    Satan has a system

    but his system as never changed ,he was opposed to God in the beginning and he still is;it just becomes worse in time more sofisticated because of the renewed approached .

    would you live in a house build like in the 1200 century ???

    #315204
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,14:16)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:58)
    Georg

    2 Thess 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

    This one gets destroyed at the coming.  This is the scripture that gives it away that this man is the same as the false prophet.  The exact same man.  The Son of Perdition is the false prophet.


    Hi Journey42,

    OK, now Let me take the liberty
    of piecing it together for you the way you see it.

    1. The wicked one is the false prophet.
    2. Destroyed, when he is cast into the lake of fire.
    3. By the word on a white horse with a sword coming out of his mouth.

    Therefore to you, 'the son of perdition' means the son going into perdition via the lake of fire, yes?

    (please answer)
    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Georgie,

    Yes or No?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315205
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,05:23)
    wup

    Quote
    Satan has a system

    but his system as never changed ,he was opposed to God in the beginning and he still is;it just becomes worse in time more sofisticated because of the renewed approached .

    would you live in a house build like in the 1200 century ???


    Terra.

    Satans system has not change yes.
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    Evil must come to the full;and then the end will come.

    wakeup.

    #315206
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    What are you calling “the end”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315208
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,07:19)
    Hi Wakeup,

    What are you calling “the end”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    For your information.

    The end of the system of things,when all the cities of the world will be no more.
    And the cities of the nations fell,and great babylon came in remembrance before God.(rev.16:19.).

    Babylon the great is fallen,is fallen,and has become the habitation of devils.(rev18:2.).

    wakeup.

    #315215
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,14:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,05:23)
    wup

    Quote
    Satan has a system

    but his system as never changed ,he was opposed to God in the beginning and he still is;it just becomes worse in time more sofisticated because of the renewed approached .

    would you live in a house build like in the 1200 century ???


    Terra.

    Satans system has not change yes.
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    Evil must come to the full;and then the end will come.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    but he as succeed in all that God allowed him to do ,for 6000 years,

    it is not the evil that must come to the end;it is the number of those that will be saved in the first resurrection ,wickedness will be deal with in his own time by God after the second resurrection and the final judgement and the destruction of Satan

    #315218
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,14:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,05:23)
    wup

    Quote
    Satan has a system

    but his system as never changed ,he was opposed to God in the beginning and he still is;it just becomes worse in time more sofisticated because of the renewed approached .

    would you live in a house build like in the 1200 century ???


    Terra.

    Satans system has not change yes.
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    Evil must come to the full;and then the end will come.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    but he as succeed in all that God allowed him to do ,for 6000 years,

    it is not the evil that must come to the end;it is the number of those that will be saved in the first resurrection ,wickedness will be deal with in his own time by God after the second resurrection and the final judgement and the destruction of Satan


    Terra.

    BUT HE WHO LET, WILL LET.
    AND HE IS GOD.

    This world; babylon the great will be destroyed,and all that belong to her also will be destroyed.

    Come out of her my people,that ye be not partakers of her sins,and that ye receive not of her pagues.

    wakeup.

    #315221
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,15:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,07:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,14:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,05:23)
    wup

    Quote
    Satan has a system

    but his system as never changed ,he was opposed to God in the beginning and he still is;it just becomes worse in time more sofisticated because of the renewed approached .

    would you live in a house build like in the 1200 century ???


    Terra.

    Satans system has not change yes.
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    Evil must come to the full;and then the end will come.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    In these last days his plan is coming together and he will succeed for a short time.

    but he as succeed in all that God allowed him to do ,for 6000 years,

    it is not the evil that must come to the end;it is the number of those that will be saved in the first resurrection ,wickedness will be deal with in his own time by God after the second resurrection and the final judgement and the destruction of Satan


    Terra.

    BUT HE WHO LET, WILL LET.
    AND HE IS GOD.

    This world; babylon the great will be destroyed,and all that belong to her also will be destroyed.

    Come out of her my people,that ye be not partakers of her sins,and that ye receive not of her pagues.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Rev 18:21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:
    “With such violence
    the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
    never to be found again.

    Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
    Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—

    do you see that in your understanding and scriptures there is a paradox ???

    #315225
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    I can not see a paradox.
    What is the paradox,can you tell me?

    wakeup.

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