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Hi Wakeup,
“And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,08:56) Hi Wakeup, “And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J
Hi Wakeup,The TWO horns are (1)Shite and (2)Sunni
“And I beheld another beast (the false prophet) coming up out of the earth;
and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. (Rev 13:11)The quranic prophecy
“And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. (Rev 13:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,08:56) Hi Wakeup, “And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.The number of a man is 666;who is this man?
Are we all to have that number?
Of all nations and tongues.? dont forget godless china.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,09:27) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,08:56) Hi Wakeup, “And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J
EdJ.The number of a man is 666;who is this man?
Are we all to have that number?
Of all nations and tongues.? dont forget godless china.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,666 refers to the quran, Muhammad was the man responsible
for it being written. (See Gal.1:8, 2Cor.11:14 and Rev.13:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,09:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,09:27) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,08:56) Hi Wakeup, “And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J
EdJ.The number of a man is 666;who is this man?
Are we all to have that number?
Of all nations and tongues.? dont forget godless china.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,666 refers to the quran, Muhammad was the man responsible
for it being written. (See Gal.1:8, 2Cor.11:14 and Rev.13:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Edj.And my question was:
Are we ALL going to be forced to receive the qur'an?
China included?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,09:39) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,09:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,09:27) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,08:56) Hi Wakeup, “And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J
EdJ.The number of a man is 666;who is this man?
Are we all to have that number?
Of all nations and tongues.? dont forget godless china.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,666 refers to the quran, Muhammad was the man responsible
for it being written. (See Gal.1:8, 2Cor.11:14 and Rev.13:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Edj.And my question was:
Are we ALL going to be forced to receive the qur'an?
China included?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Here is what is happening… (Isaiah 13:1…6)
“The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see. I have com-
manded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains,
like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together:The “LORD of Hosts” mustereth the host of the battle.
They come from a far country (the U.S.A.), from the end of heaven,
even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land (of Babylon).
…for “The Day of The LORD” is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. “God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,09:01) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,08:56) Hi Wakeup, “And he(Rev.13:11) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy
or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is (666) Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:16-18)God bless
Ed J
Hi Wakeup,The TWO horns are (1)Shite and (2)Sunni
“And I beheld another beast (the false prophet) coming up out of the earth;
and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. (Rev 13:11)The quranic prophecy
“And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. (Rev 13:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EDJ.HORNS ARE KINGS.NOT RELIGEOUS SECTS.(can not do as you please).
2 HORNS EQUALS 2 KINGS.(Not more than 2.).
can not interpret scriptures as long as it fits in you doctrine.Can not turn it into a free for all,do as you please.
wakeup.
All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. – Arthur SchopenhauerQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,10:16) All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. – Arthur Schopenhauer
Edj.Again and again ignoring question.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Horns represent “power” as in rulership such as Kings of Kingdoms.
* Kings in the bible are those that rule the kingdom, simple!
* Muhammad was not a king, yet he ruled. (Dan.11:36-39)
* The Prime Minister of Brittan is not a king, yet he rules.
* The President of the U.S.A. is not a king, yet he rules.(1)Shite and (2)Sunni are the two horns of islam (See Rev.13:11)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??Georg
Hi GeorgI don't know who the false prophet is yet. Nobody knows, until he shows his face.
He will have to come exactly according to scripture. He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.
The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working. The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore. But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare, and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos. Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it, this is the BLACK HORSE riding. He is here. so now is the time coming soon.
Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing, a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles? WHO CAN DO THIS? WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?
So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.
THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM. And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
Rev 13:14 And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
Rev 13:15 And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
Rev 13:16 And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name./continued
j42
Quote Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing, a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles? WHO CAN DO THIS? WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS? we all suppose to die the law ” the soul that sin must die ” is not finished.
Christ came to save us not from live but from the grave,by the first or second resurrection ,
it is that faith and believe that he would do that that will save us,for that reason we change and conform ourself to his will ,to receive the promise of everlasting live
Hi Georgie,
I'm glad that you have been reading my posts!
Because this is exactly what I asked for – an explanation
as to “WHY” you believe the way you do. Thank you so much!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,04:43) Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,03:43) Ed, (1)do you know what the six empires had in common, that the Ottoman empire did not have?
They all ruled over the nation Israel; by the time the Ottoman empire came into being, there was no more nation of Israel.
(2)Also, it says that the seventh head would only last a short time, and then out of it would come the sixth; explain that discrepancy.Georg
(3)Ps, you did good on those maps though.
Hi George,1) The Ottoman Empire did to rule over the land of Israel.
The Eighth Empire is Muhammadin-islam and of the seventh,
which was the Ottoman Empire; healing the deadly wound of it.2) It's a matter of how long the Roman Empire ruled the land of Israel VS how long the Ottoman Empire
ruled the land of Israel before “The Balfour Declaration” of 1917 as to what 'a short time' constitutes.3) Why thank you George! …How's Irene and the kids doing?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
What would be the point to rule over a “land”, and not the people?
Even the Romans ruled over the Israelite's until 70 AD; then they dispersed them, scattered them all over the world; remember?No, it has nothing to do with how long any empire ruled over the Israeli; it has to do with the “ten” horns/kings that would give their power to the seventh head/king; because it is this beast/king that that would not only last a short time; but out of “IT” would come the eighth.
And no matter how much you like the Ottoman empire, they have nothing to do with this head.Georg
Hi Georg,
You do have the Roman Empire as the Sixth Empire, right? Or
do you have the Roman Empire as the Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgGeorg
2 Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him.
2 Thess 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the days of Christ is at hand.Here, Paul is telling the congregation there at that time, not to be troubled because the coming of Lord will not happen in their time.
The day will not come until the falling away first, and the man of sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition2 Thess 1:3 Let no man decieve you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of Sin be revealed, the son of Perdition.
This is a man, not a spirit, and he is called the Son of Perdition. His Father is Satan of course, because Satan has produced children unto himself that have his character in them. But this one is different.2 Thess 1:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
2 Thess 1:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in HIS TIME.
2 Thess 1:7 For the mystery of iniquity does already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
The plan was already in Satan's heart back then, but only God can hold him back, and will let him carry out this plan and when God says it is time (when the gospel is preached to the whole earth for a witness, and the fullness of the gentiles come in (Romans 11:25)….then it's time for this man to be revealed, shortly before Christ's 2nd coming)2 Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
This one gets destroyed at the coming. This is the scripture that gives it away that this man is the same as the false prophet. The exact same man. The Son of Perdition is the false prophet.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2012,13:34) j42 Quote Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing, a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles? WHO CAN DO THIS? WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS? we all suppose to die the law ” the soul that sin must die ” is not finished.
Christ came to save us not from live but from the grave,by the first or second resurrection ,
it is that faith and believe that he would do that that will save us,for that reason we change and conform ourself to his will ,to receive the promise of everlasting live
Yes Pierre,This false prophet could never save us. But the world don't have a saviour, so to them he is their saviour, because it's the material things they are concerned with. This is why they are fooled by him, because he can give it back, but we are not fooled, and we wont accept him to save our lives, or our material things, that's why we will not conform to his new system. We will be outcasts, considered rejects & rebells. They will find new homes for us alright, in the FEMA prison camps. They will force us to go there. Once we are there, nobody will know what they are doing to us. Just like with the Jews. Many slaughtered and no-one knew except for the soldiers. If we take the mark, they will release us from the prison, we will have 10 days to make that decision in there.
Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:58) Georg 2 Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
This one gets destroyed at the coming. This is the scripture that gives it away that this man is the same as the false prophet. The exact same man. The Son of Perdition is the false prophet.
Hi Journey42,OK, now Let me take the liberty
of piecing it together for you the way you see it.1. The wicked one is the false prophet.
2. Destroyed, when he is cast into the lake of fire.
3. By the word on a white horse with a sword coming out of his mouth.Therefore to you, 'the son of perdition' means the son going into perdition via the lake of fire, yes?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19) Quote Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??Georg
Hi GeorgI don't know who the false prophet is yet. Nobody knows, until he shows his face.
He will have to come exactly according to scripture. He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.
The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working. The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore. But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare, and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos. Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it, this is the BLACK HORSE riding. He is here. so now is the time coming soon.
Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing, a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles? WHO CAN DO THIS? WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?
So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.
THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM. And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
Rev 13:14 And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
Rev 13:15 And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
Rev 13:16 And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name./continued
You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
“Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.Georg
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,13:58) Hi Georg, You do have the Roman Empire as the Sixth Empire, right? Or
do you have the Roman Empire as the Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yes, Rome was the sixth head; Rome was also the head that received the deadly wound, in 476 AD, and the wound was healed in 553 AD.Georg
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