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  • #286635
    Marlin1
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    Mat.24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn,and they -SHALL SEE-THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds of heaven with POWER AND GREAT GLORY.

    Hi Wakeup,

    You have this scripture misplaced. This will happen at the last battle.

    First He is going to come and collect His true church (bride)
    Then the great tribulation will set in.
    Then Mat 24:30 will happen and every eye will see.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #286640
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,05:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,03:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Muhammad is the 'false prophet' of Rev.13:11.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    REv.13:12. And he exerciseth all the power of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM.and caused the earth and them that dwell there in to worship the FIRST BEAST,WHOSE DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED.
    Who is the beast before him?
    The ottoman emp.was after him,so how come?

    YOU NEED A PLUMBER IN A HURRY TO PLUG UP ALL THE HOLES.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up, (flattery will get you no-where my friend!)

    The beast of Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
    the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)

                          The quran prophecy

    Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
    saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #286641
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,05:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,03:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Muhammad is the 'false prophet' of Rev.13:11.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    REv.13:12. And he exerciseth all the power of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM.and caused the earth and them that dwell there in to worship the FIRST BEAST,WHOSE DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED.
    Who is the beast before him?
    The ottoman emp.was after him,so how come?

    YOU NEED A PLUMBER IN A HURRY TO PLUG UP ALL THE HOLES.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up, (quick call the plumber!)

    First you have the meaning for time change to something else in the same verse,
    NOW you have one meaning for beast in verse 12 and a different in verse 13.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #286719
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,05:29)

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    Mat.24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn,and they -SHALL SEE-THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds of heaven with POWER AND GREAT GLORY.

    Hi Wakeup,

    You have this scripture misplaced.  This will happen at the last battle.

    First He is going to come and collect His true church (bride)
    Then the great tribulation will set in.
    Then Mat 24:30 will happen and every eye will see.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin1.

    Please read rev7;9–14. (none will be taken up,but the 144000).

    wakeup.

    #286723
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,05:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,05:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,03:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Muhammad is the 'false prophet' of Rev.13:11.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    REv.13:12. And he exerciseth all the power of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM.and caused the earth and them that dwell there in to worship the FIRST BEAST,WHOSE DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED.
    Who is the beast before him?
    The ottoman emp.was after him,so how come?

    YOU NEED A PLUMBER IN A HURRY TO PLUG UP ALL THE HOLES.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up, (flattery will get you no-where my friend!)

    The beast of Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
    the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)

                          The quran prophecy

    Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
    saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    You must be very careful reading the scriptures.
    Rev.13:12. He exerciseth all the power of the –first beast — before him.The beast that was fore him is the revived wounded beast with the 10 horns.

    Dan.7:7.The dreadful beast with the 10 horns first: THEN COMES THE LITTLE HORN. The little horn is not coming up first,but after the 10 horns.

    Rev 13:1.2.3. the 10 horn beast first:
    verse 11. the 2horn beast later:(before him was the 10horn beast).

    What you are saying is that mohamad(little horn) came first, then 700 yrs later the 10 horn beast will come.You are turning scripture upside down.

    Before him meaning the beast was there before he came.

    wakeup.

    #286754
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Please read rev7;9–14. (none will be taken up,but the 144000).

    Hi Wakeup,
    You missed the Rapture of the Saints.  Rev 4:1

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #286760
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,17:30)

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    Please read rev7;9–14. (none will be taken up,but the 144000).

    Hi Wakeup,
    You missed the Rapture of the Saints.  Rev 4:1

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin1.

    Rev.4:1. ??????

    wakeup.

    #286783
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,17:30)

    Quote
    Please read rev7;9–14. (none will be taken up,but the 144000).

    Hi Wakeup,
    You missed the Rapture of the Saints.  Rev 4:1

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Revelation 4:1
    After this i looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven, and the first voice which i heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me, which said, Come up hither, and i will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

    This is John being taken up.

    An individual.

    Taken to be shown things which must come…which means future….which means that they haven't happened yet…

    The white horse has not yet been released….
    Nor the red, black and pale horses…etc etc etc

    So how can this be the rapture Ed?

    This is not the rapture i'm afraid.

    Cheers.

    #286784
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,17:30)

    Quote
    Please read rev7;9–14. (none will be taken up,but the 144000).

    Hi Wakeup,
    You missed the Rapture of the Saints.  Rev 4:1

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Sorry Ed J,

    I meant that for Marlin.

    Cheers.

    #286786
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,05:29)

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    Mat.24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn,and they -SHALL SEE-THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds of heaven with POWER AND GREAT GLORY.

    Hi Wakeup,

    You have this scripture misplaced.  This will happen at the last battle.

    First He is going to come and collect His true church (bride)
    Then the great tribulation will set in.
    Then Mat 24:30 will happen and every eye will see.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin1,brother.

    PLease do not follow your present teachers,I know they are nice people,but they all teach error.
    This is life everlasting,go back to the scriptures and seek.
    The doctrines that are going around today are not holy, but full of holes.
    It can not hold any water,and therefore the land is desolate,God said.
    The people have eyes, but can not see,they have ears but can not hear.
    This is not idle talk.

    Greetings to you brother.

    wakeup.

    #286793
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,04:05)
    EDJ.

    –THE– FALSE PROPHET IS GOING TO SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST GOD.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Scripture please?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you haven't found any, but you are welcome to keep looking.    …I'll be patiently waiting; OK?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #286794
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Mar. 23 2012,01:23)
    So how can this be the rapture Ed?

    Cheers.


    Hi Devolution, EXACTLY!

          (Link)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #286796
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,01:55)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,05:29)

    Quote
    Mat.24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn,and they -SHALL SEE-THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds of heaven with POWER AND GREAT GLORY.

    Hi Wakeup,

    You have this scripture misplaced.  This will happen at the last battle.

    First He is going to come and collect His true church (bride)
    Then the great tribulation will set in.
    Then Mat 24:30 will happen and every eye will see.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin1,brother.

    PLease do not follow your present teachers,I know they are nice people,but they all teach error.
    This is life everlasting,go back to the scriptures and seek.
    The doctrines that are going around today are not holy, but full of holes.
    It can not hold any water,and therefore the land is desolate,God said.
    The people have eyes, but can not see,they have ears but can not hear.
    This is not idle talk.

    Greetings to you brother.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting that we follow you?
    Aught we rather to be following Christ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #286798
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,03:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,04:05)
    EDJ.

    –THE– FALSE PROPHET IS GOING TO SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST GOD.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Scripture please?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you haven't found any, but you are welcome to keep looking.    …I'll be patiently waiting; OK?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    You should know the scriptures; see dan11:36.
    And the king shall do according to his will;and he shall exalt himself above every God, and shall speak marvellous things AGAINST THE GOD OF GODS,and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that,that is determined shall be done.

    This does not fit mohamad at all.

    greetings to you.

    wakeup.

    #286801
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,03:11)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,01:55)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 22 2012,05:29)

    Quote
    Mat.24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn,and they -SHALL SEE-THE SON OF MAN COMING in the clouds of heaven with POWER AND GREAT GLORY.

    Hi Wakeup,

    You have this scripture misplaced.  This will happen at the last battle.

    First He is going to come and collect His true church (bride)
    Then the great tribulation will set in.
    Then Mat 24:30 will happen and every eye will see.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin1,brother.

    PLease do not follow your present teachers,I know they are nice people,but they all teach error.
    This is life everlasting,go back to the scriptures and seek.
    The doctrines that are going around today are not holy, but full of holes.
    It can not hold any water,and therefore the land is desolate,God said.
    The people have eyes, but can not see,they have ears but can not hear.
    This is not idle talk.

    Greetings to you brother.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting that we follow you?
    Aught we rather to be following Christ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You have got it all wrong ed.
    I did not write the scriptures;follow the scriptures brother, not me.
    Are you just looking for a target to shoot at?

    wakeup.

    #286841
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,03:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,03:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,04:05)
    EDJ.

    –THE– FALSE PROPHET IS GOING TO SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST GOD.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Scripture please?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you haven't found any, but you are welcome to keep looking.    …I'll be patiently waiting; OK?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    You should know the scriptures; see dan11:36.
    And the king shall do according to his will;and he shall exalt himself above every God, and shall speak marvellous things AGAINST THE GOD OF GODS,and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that,that is determined shall be done.

    This does not fit mohamad at all.

    greetings to you.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up, (I don't see the words 'false prophet' there?)
    But evidence is quite clear, islam is the spirit of antichrist…

    Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
    (3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
    honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
    and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
    strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
    and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

    This can only be the prophet of islam (Rev.13:11,18)
    and his god (Rev.12:3,9); wake-up BD! (Eph.5:14)

    1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
    2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
    3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
    4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
    5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
    6. When were the prophets over with?
    7. Who do they say has no Son?

    1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
    Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
    since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
    Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)

    (7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
    with our spirit, that we are the children of God.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #286952
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,07:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,03:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,03:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2012,04:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2012,04:05)
    EDJ.

    –THE– FALSE PROPHET IS GOING TO SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST GOD.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Scripture please?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you haven't found any, but you are welcome to keep looking.    …I'll be patiently waiting; OK?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    You should know the scriptures; see dan11:36.
    And the king shall do according to his will;and he shall exalt himself above every God, and shall speak marvellous things AGAINST THE GOD OF GODS,and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that,that is determined shall be done.

    This does not fit mohamad at all.

    greetings to you.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up, (I don't see the words 'false prophet' there?)
    But evidence is quite clear, islam is the spirit of antichrist…

    Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
    (3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
    honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
    and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
    strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
    and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

    This can only be the prophet of islam (Rev.13:11,18)
    and his god (Rev.12:3,9); wake-up BD! (Eph.5:14)

    1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
    2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
    3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
    4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
    5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
    6. When were the prophets over with?
    7. Who do they say has no Son?

    1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
    Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
    since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
    Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)

    (7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
    with our spirit, that we are the children of God.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Edj.

    The law and the prophets are untill John yes.
    But what you cant understand is;that this does not count to the jews,for they are still waiting for their prophet.So there you go,this is out the window.

    You love mans doctrine so much;you are willing to follow their way of of discussing scriptures,the way the world does his work; slippery and sliding.you are not seeking the truth,but just doctrine that suits you best.Mr shoebats doctrine is full of holes,its beyond repair.

    No heart feelings bro.

    wakeup.

    #286956
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wake-up, (Are you looking at yourself in the mirror again? James 1:20, Psalm 18:25-27)

    You, Wake-up, are pushing into the future what has already happened, look at this pattern in history…

    1. The messiah came and died for our sins                                              …Judaism is waiting for the messiah
    2. Jesus returned (in spirit form) at “Pentecost”                                      …Christendom is awaiting Jesus' return
    3. The seventy weeks of Daniel have been fulfilled                                 …dispensationalists are waiting fulfillment
    4. Both Revelation 13:1-3 and 13:11 have been fulfilled                         …wake-up waiting for Prophecy to be fulfilled      

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #286961
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Quote
    Revelation 4:1
    After this i looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven, and the first voice which i heard was as it were of a trumpet

    Hi Devolution,

    Read again my friend, after what. The 7th church age. And which age is the last church age.
    This is the same trumpet type trumpet that sounds for the church.

    You know the scriptures, they are true.

    You also should know that the 7 seals is from start to finish again. Just like the 7 church ages.

    By the way, the rapture is not for Ed J, he doesn't believe in one.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #286966
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Quote
    PLease do not follow your present teachers,I know they are nice people,but they all teach error.
    This is life everlasting,go back to the scriptures and seek.
    The doctrines that are going around today are not holy, but full of holes.
    It can not hold any water,and therefore the land is desolate,God said.
    The people have eyes, but can not see,they have ears but can not hear.
    This is not idle talk.

    Greetings to you brother.

    wakeup.

    Hi Wakeup,

    Brother I have given you scripture after scripture and this is what you say.

    I am sorry my brother, it is not my teaching that is contrary to the Word.

    I know where I have placed my faith, God has a provided way and the truth will always come that way.

    I do understand how hard it is to change doctrine that a person has learned.
    The way that seems right to man leads to death. So we must not follow man, we must follow God and not man. God's Word is always correct, we just misplace or misapply it way to often.

    God Bless you brother
    Marlin

    God Bless

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