Why is it so hard to understand?

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  • #330262
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,04:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,21:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,01:40)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The “Kingdom of God” is spiritual and is set up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New  york? London? Paris?

    Have you received your reward ED? NO
    Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    Were you called before Christ? NO.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    WHERE IS YOUR KINGDOM? NO KINGDOM.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    almost all you say has been accomplished ,and still in progress

    so your answers should be mostly “YES”


    Terra.

    So you know?

    Will you be so kind to place the yes's and the no'son the list? If you dare? I dont think you dare.

    wakeup.

    #330265
    journey42
    Participant

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    WAKEUP

    almost all you say has been accomplished ,and still in progress

    so your answers should be mostly “YES”

    Pierre,

    Please be honest here.
    We are all waiting for that big day when Christ returns.  He will bring his reward with him. The reward is not here already. We are still laboring for him and when he returns will find out if we are accepted.  
    There is hope for a better world when he returns.  There will be a massive change.  If we tell people Christ and his kingdom is already here, then they will have nothing to look forward to, as many of them are still oppressed, and hungry, and in pain, and dying.  If this is the best it gets, then what hope is it for them?  

    The best we can tell them is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, has power to forgive sins, and we can only know God through him and no other name.  
    We tell them to find out about him, to read his word and see what he has to say.  
    They can then find out for themselves directly through the scriptures what is good and evil,
    and then they can start repenting on things as they go.  
    We don't just repent once, and say I'm born again, a changed man,
    no, we have to find out first what our instructions are, what to change
    and if we are attracted to making those changes so far,
    then the more we read and learn, the more the spirit of truth will come in to us.  It is a gradual process.  We will keep learning and repenting for the rest of our lives,
    and that new spirit in us, will give us the knowledge to strengthen all our weaknesses,
    and not only that, Christ will feed us deep solid food.  This food will be our covering/protection.  This solid food is absolutely essential and will prove our faith.  We will not make the wrong choices once we have eaten this food.  This food will guard and strengthen us for the things to come in the last days, and save us from being deceived.

    We will learn more as we go and fill ourselves with the spirit of truth, and as we slowly change our ways to God's holy ways,
    we will have a chance of being chosen to take part in the first resurrection, and to be united with our Lord and King of Kings, Jesus Christ who is returning and coming soon.  
    That is the message and that is the promise.  
    We have to run the race before we can win it.

    #330268
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,15:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,04:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,21:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,01:40)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The “Kingdom of God” is spiritual and is set up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New  york? London? Paris?

    Have you received your reward ED? NO
    Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    Were you called before Christ? NO.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    WHERE IS YOUR KINGDOM? NO KINGDOM.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    almost all you say has been accomplished ,and still in progress

    so your answers should be mostly “YES”


    Terra.

    So you know?

    Will you be so kind to place the yes's and the no'son the list? If you dare? I dont think you dare.

    wakeup.


    Terra??

    wakeup.

    #330269
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Journey42,

    Our hope is in the resurrection. And our means to be
    resurrected is in being “Born Again” with God's Holy Spirit.
    Jesus death and subsequent resurrection provides the means.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330270
    Ed J
    Participant

    Have you received your reward ED? ……… Yes
    Have you been given a spirit body? ………. NO.
    Were you called before Christ?  ……………. Not Yet.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? … Most of them.
    Is babylon destroyed?  ……………………….. Not yet
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth?  …..  We are making the move with the knowledge of God now.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.   ….. this question needs work.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks?  …………. not yet.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares?   ……… in process.
    Can the child play with the Bear? ………….. in spirit.
    Does the lion eat straw? ……………….  in spirit.

    #330273
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,16:02)
    Have you received your reward ED? ……… Yes
    Have you been given a spirit body? ………. NO.
    Were you called before Christ?  ……………. Not Yet.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? … Most of them.
    Is babylon destroyed?  ……………………….. Not yet
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth?  …..  We are making the move with the knowledge of God now.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.   ….. this question needs work.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks?  …………. not yet.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares?   ……… in process.
    Can the child play with the Bear? ………….. in spirit.
    Does the lion eat straw? ……………….  in spirit.


    Edj.

    Why dont you make it easier for yourself,and just say it all symbolical.

    You are not being honest.

    wakeup.

    #330275
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,10:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,15:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,04:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,21:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,01:40)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The “Kingdom of God” is spiritual and is set up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New  york? London? Paris?

    Have you received your reward ED? NO
    Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    Were you called before Christ? NO.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    WHERE IS YOUR KINGDOM? NO KINGDOM.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    almost all you say has been accomplished ,and still in progress

    so your answers should be mostly “YES”


    Terra.

    So you know?

    Will you be so kind to place the yes's and the no'son the list? If you dare? I dont think you dare.

    wakeup.


    Terra??

    wakeup.


    Wup. J42

    The kingdom as been set up sinse Christ coming and dead Isaiah 9-4-8

    But all the enemies are not submitted so we still in Waite but wen we die we go to our rest close to God and his son ,no longer in the hades,

    #330280
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,16:11)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,10:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,15:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,04:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,21:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,01:40)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The “Kingdom of God” is spiritual and is set up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New  york? London? Paris?

    Have you received your reward ED? NO
    Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    Were you called before Christ? NO.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    WHERE IS YOUR KINGDOM? NO KINGDOM.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    almost all you say has been accomplished ,and still in progress

    so your answers should be mostly “YES”


    Terra.

    So you know?

    Will you be so kind to place the yes's and the no'son the list? If you dare? I dont think you dare.

    wakeup.


    Terra??

    wakeup.


    Wup. J42

    The kingdom as been set up sinse Christ coming and dead Isaiah 9-4-8

    But all the enemies are not submitted so we still in Waite but wen we die we go to our rest close to God and his son ,no longer in the hades,


    Terra.

    Can you just anwer the list?

    wakeup.

    #330327
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,15:53)
    Hi Journey42,

    Our hope is in the resurrection. And our means to be
    resurrected is in being “Born Again” with God's Holy Spirit.
    Jesus death and subsequent resurrection provides the means.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed

    If our hope is in the resurrection, then we have not been born again already. This is just common sense. To say you are born again is saying I have been accepted into the kingdom.
    That's not your decision, or mine, that decision belongs to Christ. Making this decision ourselves is equal to what Satan did. He thought himself higher than God.
    We can have hope that we will be chosen. There's a big difference.

    #330328
    journey42
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    Have you received your reward ED? ……… Yes


     
    Matthew 16:27   For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ….and then…. he shall reward every man according to his works.

    We have to be in harmony with the scriptures Ed.

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    Can the child play with the Bear? ………….. in spirit.

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    Does the lion eat straw? ……………….  in spirit.


    Ed, get real.

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    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.   ….. this question needs work.


    How about just a plain yes.  Be honest.

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    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks?  …………. not yet.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares?   ……… in process.


    This happens at the same time.  Christ is the one who will bring this change when he returns to rule.

    Why are you not giving Christ the glory he deserves?  He is going to do a marvelous thing when he comes.  He will change everything during the thousand year rest.  This is the rest we are all waiting and yearning for. Don't sell Christ short. Exalt him Ed.

    #330336
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,15:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,15:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,04:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,21:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,01:40)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The “Kingdom of God” is spiritual and is set up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New  york? London? Paris?

    Have you received your reward ED? NO
    Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    Were you called before Christ? NO.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    WHERE IS YOUR KINGDOM? NO KINGDOM.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    almost all you say has been accomplished ,and still in progress

    so your answers should be mostly “YES”


    Terra.

    So you know?

    Will you be so kind to place the yes's and the no'son the list? If you dare? I dont think you dare.

    wakeup.


    Terra??

    wakeup.


    Terra.

    WILL YOU ANSWER THIS LIST?
    Have you received your reward ED? NO
    Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    Were you called before Christ? NO.
    Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    wakeup.

    #330338
    terraricca
    Participant

    ALL THE WAKEUP FAMILY ,

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    EDj.

    1)Where are our kings and priests,and where is the new Jerusalem? Is it New york? London? Paris?

    2)Have you received your reward ED? NO
    3)Have you been given a spirit body? NO.
    4)Were you called before Christ? NO.
    5)Have you seen the prophesies fulfilled? NO.
    6)Is babylon destroyed? NO.
    7)Has knowledge covered the earth as the sea cover the earth? NO.

    8)Is pain and sufering no more, and peace on earth?.NO.
    9)Has the spears turned into pruning hooks? NO.
    10)Has the sword turned into plowshares? NO.
    11)Can the child play with the Bear? NO.
    12)Does the lion eat straw? NO.

    13)WHERE IS YOUR KINGDOM? NO KINGDOM.

    wakeup.

    your questions are very vague in nature ,and the answers are preset in your brains ,

    1) the new Jerusalem is in heaven and will soon be completed

    2) my reward his everlasting live ,no I have not actually possess it ,but i have my hopes that Christ the son of God as guaranty it that I will receive it ,

    3)I do not hope for one

    4) yes i am standing before him and his father night and day and so only live in truth his truth ,

    5) about seeing the accomplishment of prophecy ;yes I have seen in my live time the hand of God in action,

    6)Babylon ? what do you mean ??? we do not thing the same on this .

    7)about the knowledge cover the earth ??? what do you mean ??? I would say yes to that ,because there are more bibles on earth than people

    8) pain and sufferings no the are not gone ,but i would feel them a lot more if I would not have my faith

    9) yes ,this as been in operation sins Christ gives the gospel ,because that the only way to salvation

    10) same as 9

    11) yes same as 9 (Isaiah words are not literally ,but talks about violent men turned into sheep like persons in Christ ,

    12) yes ,he does any person that comes to Christ stopped feeding on violence

    13) the kingdom is in heaven and it is from heaven that he rules ,but you are confused between the kingdom and the heavenly Jerusalem ,

    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given,
    and the government will be on his shoulders

    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.
    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness

    from that time on and forever.
    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    according to the scriptures the day that Christ was born he was the King and so rules his kingdom ;FROM THAT TIME ON AND FOREVER ;

    #330445
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Then how can you say that you are in the kingdom?

    You are not a saint ruling in Jerusalem,there is still pain and tears,and wars.You are not living in Jerusalem are you?
    You play with the lion and see what happen.You feed a lion straw and see if he eats it.

    You will not let your children play with snakes will you?
    I have experience many christians die before the age of 50yrs. In the kingdom that will not happen.

    I still can feel pain,and you too.

    Your doctrine is ready for the scrap heep.

    wakeup.

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