Why is his name jesus?

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So God the saviour.
Jesus was the vessel he lived in that saved.

So why do you want to call Jesus his own god again?[jn20]

[942767]

Quote (thethinker @ July 16 2009,09:00)

On another thread bodhitharta said: Quote The name of the Father is YHWH, that does not spell Jesus so get over it. Uh, the name “Jesus” means “YHWH saves.” Therefore, YHWH is Christ's name too. “Before Abraham was I AM” (John 8:58). thinker

Hi thethinker:

Who did Jesus obey even unto death on the cross?

Love in Christ,
Marty

[KangarooJack]

Quote (942767 @ July 16 2009,13:52)

Quote (thethinker @ July 16 2009,09:00) On another thread bodhitharta said: Quote The name of the Father is YHWH, that does not spell Jesus so get over it. Uh, the name “Jesus” means “YHWH saves.” Therefore, YHWH is Christ's name too. “Before Abraham was I AM” (John 8:58). thinker Hi thethinker: Who did Jesus obey even unto death on the cross? Love in Christ, Marty

Marty,
Your point being….?

thinker

[942767]

Quote (thethinker @ July 17 2009,06:05)

Quote (942767 @ July 16 2009,13:52) Quote (thethinker @ July 16 2009,09:00) On another thread bodhitharta said: Quote The name of the Father is YHWH, that does not spell Jesus so get over it. Uh, the name “Jesus” means “YHWH saves.” Therefore, YHWH is Christ's name too. “Before Abraham was I AM” (John 8:58). thinker Hi thethinker: Who did Jesus obey even unto death on the cross? Love in Christ, Marty Marty, Your point being….? thinker

Hi thethinker:

My point is that his name is Jesus which as you say means “YHWH saves”. His name is not YHWH. YHWH has saved his people through him.

2 Co:

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18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

And so, what is your point? He is God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ, God's representative and not God.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[gollamudi]

Amen to that post brother Marty

[KangarooJack]

Quote (942767 @ July 18 2009,11:47)

Quote (thethinker @ July 17 2009,06:05) Quote (942767 @ July 16 2009,13:52) Quote (thethinker @ July 16 2009,09:00) On another thread bodhitharta said: Quote The name of the Father is YHWH, that does not spell Jesus so get over it. Uh, the name “Jesus” means “YHWH saves.” Therefore, YHWH is Christ's name too. “Before Abraham was I AM” (John 8:58). thinker Hi thethinker: Who did Jesus obey even unto death on the cross? Love in Christ, Marty Marty, Your point being….? thinker Hi thethinker: My point is that his name is Jesus which as you say means “YHWH saves”.  His name is not YHWH.  YHWH has saved his people through him. 2 Co: Quote 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. And so, what is your point?  He is God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ, God's representative and not God. Love in Christ, Marty

Marty,
The angel told mary to call His name “Jesus” which means “Jehovah saves.” It was more than Jehovah saving through Him. Hebrews says that Jesus became the author of eternal salvation (Heb. 5:9). Did you catch that? Jesus became the AUTHOR of salvation!

Therefore, “Jehovah saves” is His own name and it truly and properly belongs to Him. Where in Scripture is the Father called the “author” of salvation?

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
The oneness folk will welcome your new view that Jesus is his own God.

“…so HAVING BEEN MADE perfect he BECAME FOR THOSE WHO OBEY HIM the source of eternal salvation ..”

means to you he was already perfect and was always the source of salvation?

Who was the one in the verse above this one he prayed to who WAS ABLE to save him from death??

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
You will get no support from WJ the more you wander into nonsense.
He must break out in a sweat at times with your odd paths.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,07:14)

Hi TT, The oneness folk will welcome your new view that Jesus is his own God. “…so HAVING BEEN MADE perfect he BECAME FOR THOSE WHO OBEY HIM the source of eternal salvation ..” means to you he was already perfect and was always the source of salvation? Who was the one in the verse above this one he prayed to who WAS ABLE to save him from death??

But He is the AUTHOR of salvation. Right? Therefore, “Jehovah saves” is His own name. Right?

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,07:44)

Hi TT, You will get no support from WJ the more you wander into nonsense. He must break out in a sweat at times with your odd paths.

What are you talking about? WJ is a trinitarian. He believes Jesus is God.

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,07:44)

Hi TT, You will get no support from WJ the more you wander into nonsense. He must break out in a sweat at times with your odd paths.

So you think WJ denies that Jesus is the author of eternal salvation?

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So to whom does the verse say he is the source of eternal life?
To Whom did he pray?

God perhaps?

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,11:38)

Hi TT, So to whom does the verse say he is the source of eternal life? To Whom did he pray? God perhaps?

Nick,
I can't believe you asked this question. Your own anti-trinitarian friends are going to see that you are evading the scriptures. It clearly says that Jesus became the AUTHOR of eternal salvation. I will now add another verse from 1 John 1:2,

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…and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us, that which we have seen and heard we declare to you….

Who is the “eternal life” in this statement Nick? By anti-trinitarian logic it cannot be the Father for it says that the Eternal Life is WITH the Father.

So who is the Eternal Life if it is not the Father? So we see then that the name “Jehovah saves” truly and properly belongs to Jesus.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So the name Jesus certainly reminds us it is the Father God Who saves.

[942767]

Quote (thethinker @ July 19 2009,05:44)

Quote (942767 @ July 18 2009,11:47) Quote (thethinker @ July 17 2009,06:05) Quote (942767 @ July 16 2009,13:52) Quote (thethinker @ July 16 2009,09:00) On another thread bodhitharta said: Quote The name of the Father is YHWH, that does not spell Jesus so get over it. Uh, the name “Jesus” means “YHWH saves.” Therefore, YHWH is Christ's name too. “Before Abraham was I AM” (John 8:58). thinker Hi thethinker: Who did Jesus obey even unto death on the cross? Love in Christ, Marty Marty, Your point being….? thinker Hi thethinker: My point is that his name is Jesus which as you say means “YHWH saves”.  His name is not YHWH.  YHWH has saved his people through him. 2 Co: Quote 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. And so, what is your point?  He is God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ, God's representative and not God. Love in Christ, Marty Marty, The angel told mary to call His name “Jesus” which means “Jehovah saves.” It was more than Jehovah saving through Him. Hebrews says that Jesus became the author of eternal salvation (Heb. 5:9). Did you catch that? Jesus became the AUTHOR of salvation! Therefore, “Jehovah saves” is His own name and it truly and properly belongs to Him. Where in Scripture is the Father called the “author” of salvation? thinker

Hi thethinker:

He became the author of eternal salvation because through the obedience to God our Father, he was saved and raised from the dead to eternal life, and so now, he can now he can instruct us through his Word how to achieve eternal life.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Love in Christ,

[KangarooJack]

Marty said:

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He became the author of eternal salvation because through the obedience to God our Father, he was saved and raised from the dead to eternal life, and so now, he can now he can instruct us through his Word how to achieve eternal life.

Marty,
And it makes a difference because….

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So Jesus means God saves.
God does indeed save and through His son Jesus.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,09:03)

Hi, So Jesus means God saves. God does indeed save and through His son Jesus.

It's not the Father's name. Where in scripture is the Father called “Jesus?”

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
You are right in that God is not Christ Jesus and Jesus is not our God but our Lord.

God was in Christ and their unity is eternal.

If God came to live in you would that make you God? [Eph3, Phil2]

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,11:22)

Hi TT, You are right in that God is not Christ Jesus and Jesus is not our God but our Lord. God was in Christ and their unity is eternal. If God came to live in you would that make you God? [Eph3, Phil2]

What is the difference between being God and Lord of all?

thinker

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