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Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,06:05) bodhitharta said: Quote You said the name speaks for itself but you move the goal post everytime your folly is exposed. All prophets that died, died for the sins of his people.
To All,
There you have it. Bod says that “all prophets died for the sins of his people.”I need say no more.
thinker
1 Thessalonians 215 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
Those who believed in the Prophets believed in Jesus and those who doubted and killed the Prophets also desired to kill Jesus.
And as Jesus said what you have done to the least of these you have done to me and likewise those Prophets that were killed were killed for the cause of God which is to bring salvation to men.
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,09:55) Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,06:05) bodhitharta said: Quote You said the name speaks for itself but you move the goal post everytime your folly is exposed. All prophets that died, died for the sins of his people.
To All,
There you have it. Bod says that “all prophets died for the sins of his people.”I need say no more.
thinker
1 Thessalonians 215 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
Those who believed in the Prophets believed in Jesus and those who doubted and killed the Prophets also desired to kill Jesus.
And as Jesus said what you have done to the least of these you have done to me and likewise those Prophets that were killed were killed for the cause of God which is to bring salvation to men.
bd,
It does not say that the prophets died for the sins of the people?thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,10:31) Hi BD,
A very convoluted self justification.
Why do you persecute Jesus?
Again we agree Nick.thinker
Hi TT,
So if ELIJAH means YWHW is GOD what does that says about him?Are we now to preach God is a quadrinity?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,12:26) Hi TT,
So if ELIJAH means YWHW is GOD what does that says about him?Are we now to preach God is a quadrinity?
Who did Elijah save? All these names had their fulfillment in the person of Christ.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,13:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,12:26) Hi TT,
So if ELIJAH means YWHW is GOD what does that says about him?Are we now to preach God is a quadrinity?
Who did Elijah save? All these names had their fulfillment in the person of Christ.thinker
What has been fulfilled?People still sin, Evil people like Hitler and Saddam Hussein still rise and commit unspeakable evil so what has been fulfilled and in what way has sin been defeated?
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:48) Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,13:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,12:26) Hi TT,
So if ELIJAH means YWHW is GOD what does that says about him?Are we now to preach God is a quadrinity?
Who did Elijah save? All these names had their fulfillment in the person of Christ.thinker
What has been fulfilled?People still sin, Evil people like Hitler and Saddam Hussein still rise and commit unspeakable evil so what has been fulfilled and in what way has sin been defeated?
The cancellation of sin has to do with forgiveness.thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,13:59) Hi TT,
So now you have decided that only in RETROSPECT are names relevant?
You're avoiding me Nick. I said that all names had their ultimate fulfillment in Christ.thinker
On another thread bodhitharta said:
Quote The name of the Father is YHWH, that does not spell Jesus so get over it. Uh, the name “Jesus” means “YHWH saves.” Therefore, YHWH is Christ's name too. “Before Abraham was I AM” (John 8:58).
thinker
Hi TT,
So because Jesus name means YHWH saves that is good enough evidence to make such an announcement?Does God or Joshua or Jesus agree with you?
What of Elijah?
Your reliance on your logic and inference is leading you into some funny places and revealing your independance from scriptural truth.
bodhitharta said to Jesus Name:
Quote In other words what you are saying is the same as thinker because the name Jesus means “Jehovah saves” So if you come in the Name of Jehovah is Salvation it wouldn't make you Jehovah, it would make you the representative of Jehovah.
But Jesus saved men. So the name “Jehovah saves” truly and properly belongs to Him.
thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,20:33) Hi TT,
So how does that add to your idea that Joshua and Jesus must be God?
I ahve already answered this from Hebrews 4 which says,Quote For if Joshua had given them rest (salvation), then he would not have afterward spoken of another day (4:8) Jesus did what Joshua could not do.
thinker
Nick said:
Quote So because Jesus name means YHWH saves that is good enough evidence to make such an announcement? Does God or Joshua or Jesus agree with you?
Nick,
People can see that you keep asking me the same question after I have already answered you and others. Jesus saved men whereas Elijah and Joshua did not. Is this fact “evidence” in your thinking?thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2009,11:24) Hi TT,
Are you the one appointed to give Yahshua the name Yahweh?
Nick,
Though your question is not worthy of a reply I will anyway. The angel told Joseph and Mary to name the child “Jehovah saves.”thinker
Hi TT,
You have told us the name [ and not retrospective history] means he is God but cannot exclude others like Joshua and the many Jesus's who not walk the earth are not God too.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2009,11:51) Hi TT,
You have told us the name [ and not retrospective history] means he is God but cannot exclude others like Joshua and the many Jesus's who not walk the earth are not God too.
The child was called “Jehovah saves” because He “SHALL SAVE.” Did Joshua save anyone?Good night Nick.
thinker
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