Why did Jesus die?

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
You are right .
God does not need our help.
He uses puny men to shame the mighty rebellious angels.

[Towshab]

Tanakh proof for you assertation please.

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
You would need the NT.
Old wine is incomplete.

[Towshab]

Any wine conisseur will tell you new wine is inferior. You need to find a different analogy.

[NickHassan]

Hi tow,
If the wine was for your pleasure you would be right.
The new wine is for the pleasure of God
doing His will in us.

[Towshab]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2008,20:27)

Hi tow, If the wine was for your pleasure you would be right. The new wine is for the pleasure of God doing His will in us.

G-d likes to drink? I was thinking that it was you who like boozing it up because you seemed to lack comprehension.

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
God's will is done.
You can join with Him or refuse.
We am looking forward to sharing the new wine with Christ in the kingdom.

[Towshab]

So you are looking forward to getting drunk with Jesus? Now your posts become so much clearer.

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
He can celebrate now but we will rejoice with him in the kingdom.

[Towshab]

We? See Nick, even you don't believe in this “Members Only” club do ya?

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
God is merciful.
But please treat His words with respect.
They will teach you one way or another unto life or fire.

[Towshab]

Oh no, not fire. That was a favorite way for Christians to kill others: by burning them. How appropriate. Your blood soaked past haunts you Nick.

[NickHassan]

Hi tow,
Fire tests and destroys.

[Towshab]

Yes, just like Christians destroyed so many Jews. History DOES record this.

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
God is the one who uses fire.
Better to be safe in the Son than face His wrath.
The door of Christ is still open but will close and then the fire.

[Towshab]

Just as I said. Christianity is all about fire insurance. Pastors are fire insurance salesmen. They sell policies every Sunday. And people pay for it just like they would pay for any other insurance. Except the payment is called a tithe.

[NickHassan]

Hi tow,
We are just folk who have become aware of our inadequacies and found the Saviour sent by God who has given us the words of life. There is no better choice than to listen to him. God sent him and that is enough for us.

[Towshab]

You hear voices? They make medication for that.

[NickHassan]

Hi Tow,
The voice of God is heard in the recorded teachings of His Son.

[Towshab]

Like I asked, which god, Zeus or Jupiter? Because the sayings of Jesus didn't match the ones of YHVH. More buddhism than Judaism.

Is that how the OT is incomplete Nick? Did G-d want to add other religious ideals into the mix? Mithraism, Buddhism, Hindu, Zoroasterianism? Since virgin birth and death-rebirth is foreign to Tanakh but was prevalent in pagan religions, I guess G-d was jealous and decided to experiment with that too.

Now it all becomes so clear.

Please.

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