Who is your Lord

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,23:53)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,16:24) Bod You would ,in a deceiving way ,by trying to show some truth into the lie s of the Koran, But it. Happen that I did my home work so to speak, I have family in the flesh that are Muslim,and I know a few, Plus look at what happen in the middle east, Pierre I have never tried to deceive you nor convince you to convert to Islam if God should Guide you that way then God Bless you but I have not told you to convert to Islam because I could not even say that to you until you realized that there is ONLY ONE GOD. Once a person understands and accepts that the Lord is One God then Islam becomes natural to them but I don't say it's wrong to be a Christian or that the Christian is condemned in any way because the Christian is Judged according to how he judges others

bod

all your talk is for Islam Allah

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,04:07)

bod all your talk is for Islam Allah

That's a compliment, It should be noted that the reason behind all my talk is in response to unreasonable attacks and uninvited hatred stemming from ignorance

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,04:07) bod all your talk is for Islam Allah       That's a compliment, It should be noted that the reason behind all my talk is in response to unreasonable attacks and uninvited hatred stemming from ignorance

bod

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That's a compliment, It should be noted that the reason behind all my talk is in response to unreasonable attacks and uninvited hatred stemming from ignorance

no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures,

all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins,
I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it,

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23)

no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre

Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today?

bod

why you want to know ??

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:03)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today? bod why you want to know ??

Do you consider your old beliefs as false beliefs?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,20:14)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today? bod why you want to know ?? Do you consider your old beliefs as false beliefs?

bod

wen you talk false believe do you mean related to religion ?

[shimmer]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,11:46)

AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH  IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME ,

Terrarica (Bod), Allah actually is NOT the name of a Moon God.  Allah is the same word which Christians in Middle Eastern Countries use for God.  It just means God.  However WHICH God?  That is the question.  The quran and the Bible says two different things, Bod knows this.  Bod chose to believe the Quran, Bod needs to go back to Jesus as His Teacher.  Won't you go back to Jesus as your Teacher Bod?  It's all you need.  Only Jesus leads us to the truth bod.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:50)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,20:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today? bod why you want to know ?? Do you consider your old beliefs as false beliefs? bod wen you talk false believe do you mean related to religion ?

Any old belief upon learning or accepting another belief do you consider the old ones false?

[shimmer]

Terrarica, the same can be said about Christianity. War, killing and sin is everywhere whether Christan or not. Christianity is full of hypocrates as well as some good people same as Islam is also. Most of Islam don't know about Jesus and if a Christian should try to speak to them their gaurd is up due to things such as Invasion. Most of them were born and raised in Islam. Most of Christianity believes in an Eternal hell (Apart for JWs etc). However they may judge Muslims they do'nt look at themselves much nor go out of their comfort zone to teach them!

Jesus said the most important thing is to love your Neighbour as yourself, actually that is what we are judged on when Jesus returns. So if the truth is with Jesus then giving the truth to those who are in Islam is important. But with love not judgment. They are Brothers and Sisters still.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 03 2012,18:44)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,11:46) AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH  IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME , Terrarica (Bod), Allah actually is NOT the name of a Moon God.  Allah is the same word which Christians in Middle Eastern Countries use for God.  It just means God.  However WHICH God?  That is the question.  The quran and the Bible says two different things, Bod knows this.  Bod chose to believe the Quran, Bod needs to go back to Jesus as His Teacher.  Won't you go back to Jesus as your Teacher Bod?  It's all you need.  Only Jesus leads us to the truth bod.

Did you notice you just told pierre that Christians in the Middle east call God Allah and then turned around and questioned whether they believed in the same God?

So when I tell you after studying Jesus and his teachings he led me to Islam why do you insist that Jesus didn't lead me to Islam. Didn't he say no man can come to the Father except through me? Doesn't Islam focus solely on ONE LORD GOD?

When did Jesus teach you to worship him?

What does all the teachings of Jesus tell you Who to Worship?

Why would you even consider that People who bow and worship to God Almighty could possible be doing anything wrong?

Jesus led you to study Islam and “you” got uncomfortable with what the Quran says about Jesus and backed out but you could have trusted Jesus to reveal things to you that were hard for you to bear like he promised:

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

So you could not bear them so you just refused to accept what you could not bear.

When I trusted and knew that that it was difficult to accept I beared it and then God gave me the ability to understand it

1 Corinthians 3:2
I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

[shimmer]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,21:03)

Jesus led you to study Islam and “you” got uncomfortable with what the Quran says about Jesus and backed out but you could have trusted Jesus to reveal things to you that were hard for you to bear like he promised:

Bod,  no, I made the choice myself.  The Muslim Man (Preacher?) was saying “God does not have a son” mockingly.

I know it was the right choice Bod.

We are not forced to make the choice.  We either do or we don't.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 03 2012,23:05)

Bod,  no, I made the choice myself.  The Muslim Man (Preacher?) was saying “God does not have a son” mockingly. I know it was the right choice Bod. We are not forced to make the choice.  We either do or we don't.

You say you made the choice yourself because you rejected it but had you accepted it you would have thanked God and say you were led by the Spirit.

How did you even get to meet the Muslim Man you are referring to?

[shimmer]

Bod, the 'Muslim Preacher Man' was on some Internet Radio Site.

I believe all that Jesus said Bod.  BUT there ARE things I agree with in Islam too.  Example, Westernism (Sex, Drugs, Music, TV, Etc) is Anti-Islam/Sin.  I know that.  Which is why I DON'T believe Islam is the Beast of Revelations Etc.  Deceived to not believe Jesus' words yes though.

Face it, the whole Worlds a mess.  Truth is there but it has little to do with the Worlds Religions.  The Bible though can be trusted Bod.

[shimmer]

Do you believe these words?

John 14:10:

“Do you not believe that I am in my Father and my Father in me? The words which I am speaking, I am not speaking from myself, but my Father who dwells within me, he does these works.”

John 6:63:

It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 04 2012,19:44)

Do you believe these words? John 14:10: “Do you not believe that I am in my Father and my Father in me? The words which I am speaking, I am not speaking from myself, but my Father who dwells within me, he does these works.” John 6:63: It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Yes I believe those words and since you believe those words why do you rely on flesh of Jesus when he explained the flesh availeth nothing so the sacrifice of that flesh could avail nothing.

Do you understand what I mean?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:45)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,20:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today? bod why you want to know ?? Do you consider your old beliefs as false beliefs? bod wen you talk false believe do you mean related to religion ? Any old belief upon learning or accepting another belief do you consider the old ones false?

bod

I have always believed in God ,as far as I can remember ,I was born in a catholic stronghold ,but very early i rejected that religion as I remember it was at my first few lessons in there catechism that they threw me out ,because I was keeping asking
how can Mary be the mother of God if she is born after God start to created,and how can a women become the mother of her creator,

but it was only at around my 19 th year that I first could put my hands on a bible ,and wen I start reading it ,then I knew that that book was written for me and addressed to me ,

so I wanted to eat it ,and eat it ,and eat it ,yes it was a letter of my father to me ,I wanted to make sure I understood all the things he wanted me to do,and know,

it is true that I was exposed to many other faith believers,and doctrines ,but my fathers letter to me knew that ,that would happen and so told me all those things ahead of time,so I was prepared,
and so never went ashtray   from his words ,do I love my father ?I CAN NOT LIVE A SECOND WITHOUT HIM ,

Pierre

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,04:47)

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 04 2012,19:44) Do you believe these words? John 14:10: “Do you not believe that I am in my Father and my Father in me? The words which I am speaking, I am not speaking from myself, but my Father who dwells within me, he does these works.” John 6:63: It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. Yes I believe those words and since you believe those words why do you rely on flesh of Jesus when he explained the flesh availeth nothing so the sacrifice of that flesh could avail nothing. Do you understand what I mean?

Hi BD,

It is the Spirit that indwells in mankind that avails, BD!
That was available to us all “AFTER” Jesus ransom sacrifice.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away (die on the cross):
for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die(Jesus),
it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. (John 12:24)

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,05:22)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:45) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,20:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today? bod why you want to know ?? Do you consider your old beliefs as false beliefs? bod wen you talk false believe do you mean related to religion ? Any old belief upon learning or accepting another belief do you consider the old ones false? bod I have always believed in God ,as far as I can remember ,I was born in a catholic stronghold ,but very early i rejected that religion as I remember it was at my first few lessons in there catechism that they threw me out ,because I was keeping asking how can Mary be the mother of God if she is born after God start to created,and how can a women become the mother of her creator, but it was only at around my 19 th year that I first could put my hands on a bible ,and wen I start reading it ,then I knew that that book was written for me and addressed to me , so I wanted to eat it ,and eat it ,and eat it ,yes it was a letter of my father to me ,I wanted to make sure I understood all the things he wanted me to do,and know, it is true that I was exposed to many other faith believers,and doctrines ,but my fathers letter to me knew that ,that would happen and so told me all those things ahead of time,so I was prepared, and so never went ashtray   from his words ,do I love my father ?I CAN NOT LIVE A SECOND WITHOUT HIM , Pierre

How beautiful!

So you did think the old beliefs were false and your understanding you have now you feel it is true and you are content. Glory be to God!

You simply progressed to where you are now and if you are blessed with learning anything else then that would simply be part of your progress

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:25)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,05:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:45) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,20:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,12:23) no it is not a compliment,it is a noticeable reality in the things you say,and so prove you deceit toward the scriptures, all the attacks are only addressed to your false believe ,and to the way you try to defended with lies and deny history, origins, I do not hate you at all,but the truth about Islam history,origins,and book as to be said.it does not matter if it does not move you away from it or not,some people feel ok with bad company,so be it, Pierre Have you always been a Christian with the exact same beliefs you have today? bod why you want to know ?? Do you consider your old beliefs as false beliefs? bod wen you talk false believe do you mean related to religion ? Any old belief upon learning or accepting another belief do you consider the old ones false? bod I have always believed in God ,as far as I can remember ,I was born in a catholic stronghold ,but very early i rejected that religion as I remember it was at my first few lessons in there catechism that they threw me out ,because I was keeping asking how can Mary be the mother of God if she is born after God start to created,and how can a women become the mother of her creator, but it was only at around my 19 th year that I first could put my hands on a bible ,and wen I start reading it ,then I knew that that book was written for me and addressed to me , so I wanted to eat it ,and eat it ,and eat it ,yes it was a letter of my father to me ,I wanted to make sure I understood all the things he wanted me to do,and know, it is true that I was exposed to many other faith believers,and doctrines ,but my fathers letter to me knew that ,that would happen and so told me all those things ahead of time,so I was prepared, and so never went ashtray   from his words ,do I love my father ?I CAN NOT LIVE A SECOND WITHOUT HIM , Pierre How beautiful! So you did think the old beliefs were false and your understanding you have now you feel it is true and you are content. Glory be to God! You simply progressed to where you are now and if you are blessed with learning anything else then that would simply be part of your progress

bod

I ad no hold believes ,I just refuse to accept those believes from others who did not make sens,

and yes live and understanding is a progress all our lives,

in what ever road we take .good or bad

Pierre

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