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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,18:07) Hi Shimmer, Here is the question you asked me:
Quote (Shimmer @ 1) Ed, if you had a Muslim neighbour, would you talk to them? Would you say what you say here to them? I took your question to mean what would I say to them…
…That is why I said this…
Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 31 2012,16:34) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,17:30) Hi Shimmer, Jesus died for your sins; repent and follow YHVH, the Living God.
Ed, what is that supposed to mean? What exactly are you telling me I need to repent of.You need to answer my question Ed. (1)Do you have any Muslim neighbours. (2)Do you speak to them like this? I mean, some of the things I have read here and on other threads lately.
Please answer the question, thanks Ed.
1) No
2) N/AGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Most likely you do have Muslim neighbors and don't even know it, they don't all dress alike especially in the U.S. and they don't run aaround evangelizing for the most part so anyone around you could be a Muslim whether they are white, black, asian, spanish…etcQuote (shimmer @ Jan. 31 2012,18:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,18:20) Shimmer 
If Loving God genuinely with all my heart , soul and mind is me or other Muslims being deceived what is it then when you feel love for God?
Bod, most Muslims don't know the Bible. They don't know about Jesus do they – apart from the Quran. But YOU do know.I heard a Muslim doing a Sermon one day. He was saying “God does not have a Son”. On that day I decided that Islam was not for me.
I understand why you felt that way but you are going to have to accept at some point that “Son of God” is a figurative term as in “as many that are led by the spirit are the sons of God”It is a term of Righteousness. God does not have a LITERAL SON. By the time Muhammad came this was a much needed point to be made because people were putting Jesus, Mary and God together like a family, Mary was being called Queen of Heaven and the Mother of God and Mary is still worshiped today also Jesus was being called “God” If God is LITERALLY your father then you are LITERALLY God as well “Each kind according to its Kind”
So Islam makes it CLEAR God does not procreate He creates
God does not beget nor is he begotten
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,19:28) Hi Shimmer, Muslims also teach their ‘al-lah’ is unknowable (Sura 5:40). While the Judeo Christian GOD, “YHVH” is knowable (Jer.31:34).
B'shem
YHVH
Surah 5:4040 Knowest thou not that to Allah (alone) belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth? He punisheth whom He pleaseth, and He forgiveth whom He pleaseth: and Allah hath power over all things
Jeremiah 31:31-34
New International Version (NIV)
31 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[a] them,”
declares the LORD.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the LORD.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the LORD.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”Do you thing God “being a husband to them” is Literal
Also this paragraph sounds like Islam when you go into a Mosque there is no preacher or teacher Just prayers and contact directly with God.
The funny thing is how can Christians say that have a relationship with God but don't feel they can even talk to God directly without Jesus in the middle?
Imagine that kind of relationship with my wife where I have to ask her friend everything I want from her wouldn't I just fall in love with her friend? That's what Christians have done they Love Jesus directly and they have no relationship with God directly and therefore most of them either call Jesus “God” or make him part of what they call the “Godhead” because they can't love God directly
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,21:11) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,15:30)
Hi Shimmer,That is precisely what this video is about. …with results
B'shem
YHVH
The video was good and what happened with him was needed because his original teachings of childhood was based upon a corrupted foundation but what's funny is that he said he Asked ALLAH to speak to him and said that ALLAH said “Absolutely not” which means Allah did speak to him. lolIt seems to me in order to save this persons life God simply reset his programming. But keep in mind this also happens with racists like the KKK most of them that have since given up racism really thought at one point they were doing God's will and then God comes into their heart and they realize they finally have found God
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,23:14) Hi BD, There is only ONE “OWNER”,
and that's “God The Father”;
Jesus is Son of “The Owner”.And that is what one “LORD” means. (Deut.6:4)
Quit trying to make this ↑ word mean two “God's”!B'shem
YHVH
I didn't say Lord means GodBut you keep saying that God is THE ONE OWNER, The LORD over everything but the you say Jesus is LORD so you have two Lords
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2012,04:17) The video was good and what happened with him was needed because his original teachings of childhood was based upon a corrupted foundation but what's funny is that he said he Asked ALLAH to speak to him and said that ALLAH said “Absolutely not” which means Allah did speak to him. lol It seems to me in order to save this persons life God simply reset his programming. But keep in mind this also happens with racists like the KKK most of them that have since given up racism really thought at one point they were doing God's will and then God comes into their heart and they realize they finally have found God
Hi BD,What do you mean 'al-Lah' spoke to him, he was
a no show like baal; because 'al-Lah' doesn't exist.B'shem
YHVHQuote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2012,04:19) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,23:14) Hi BD, There is only ONE “OWNER”,
and that's “God The Father”;
Jesus is Son of “The Owner”.And that is what one “LORD” means. (Deut.6:4)
Quit trying to make this ↑ word mean two “God's”!B'shem
YHVH
I didn't say Lord means GodBut you keep saying that God is THE ONE OWNER, The LORD over everything but the you say Jesus is LORD so you have two Lords
Hi BD,You say that, only out of ignorance or deception. Look carefully at these verses…
“All things that the Father hath are mine:” (John 16:15)
“My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them
out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one (in ownership).” (John 10:29-30)B'shem
YHVHQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2012,05:26) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2012,04:17) The video was good and what happened with him was needed because his original teachings of childhood was based upon a corrupted foundation but what's funny is that he said he Asked ALLAH to speak to him and said that ALLAH said “Absolutely not” which means Allah did speak to him. lol It seems to me in order to save this persons life God simply reset his programming. But keep in mind this also happens with racists like the KKK most of them that have since given up racism really thought at one point they were doing God's will and then God comes into their heart and they realize they finally have found God
Hi BD,What do you mean 'al-Lah' spoke to him, he was
a no show like baal; because 'al-Lah' doesn't exist.B'shem
YHVH
So what do you say when people say that Allah did speak to them? Do you pick and choose who to believe based upon if you like what they are saying?In that video the Man also says that Jesus is God you believe that too?
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2012,08:46) Hi BD, Did Jesus say he is God in the video?
B'shem
YHVH
Yes, He said Yahweh came into the romm he had holes in his hand and his feet and his name was Jesus and he said he asked again and he said he was I am tha I am.Also he made the biggest mistake in his story when he said he asked Allah why does “their God” talk to them no Muslim would say that
Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,22:37) Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?
First in regards to prayer a person can pray as much or often as they like.In regards to who is greater between Muhammad or Jesus the Quran says
Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone.
Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #80)All who obey Allah and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #69)Please shimmer join the fellowship look what Jesus even says to you:
Luke 22:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.
25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,12:18) Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,22:37) Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?
First in regards to prayer a person can pray as much or often as they like.In regards to who is greater between Muhammad or Jesus the Quran says
Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone.
Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #80)All who obey Allah and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #69)Please shimmer join the fellowship look what Jesus even says to you:
Luke 22:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.
25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
bodQuote I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone. WHY IS MUHAMMAD VENERATED MORE THAN JESUS,?
WHERE IS YOUR MONUMENT TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE ONE TO MUHAMMAD IN MECCA RIGHT ?YES.SO WERE IS YOUR VENERATED BUILDING TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE NONE.RIGHT ? YES.
IN FACT ISLAM AS NOTHING THAT COULD SUPPORT JESUS OR ANY OF THE HOLY MAN FROM SCRIPTURES,ONLY BY MERE WORDS BUT NO ACTIONS,,,,,BUT ALL HIS GIVEN TO A MAN THAT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT WOULD BE CONDEMNED BY HIS ACTION FROM GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND JESUS HIMSELF,
AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME ,
SO YOU STILL A FAKE AND SO HIS YOUR RELIGION ISLAM
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,09:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,12:18) Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,22:37) Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?
First in regards to prayer a person can pray as much or often as they like.In regards to who is greater between Muhammad or Jesus the Quran says
Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone.
Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #80)All who obey Allah and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #69)Please shimmer join the fellowship look what Jesus even says to you:
Luke 22:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.
25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
bodQuote I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone. WHY IS MUHAMMAD VENERATED MORE THAN JESUS,?
WHERE IS YOUR MONUMENT TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE ONE TO MUHAMMAD IN MECCA RIGHT ?YES.SO WERE IS YOUR VENERATED BUILDING TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE NONE.RIGHT ? YES.
IN FACT ISLAM AS NOTHING THAT COULD SUPPORT JESUS OR ANY OF THE HOLY MAN FROM SCRIPTURES,ONLY BY MERE WORDS BUT NO ACTIONS,,,,,BUT ALL HIS GIVEN TO A MAN THAT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT WOULD BE CONDEMNED BY HIS ACTION FROM GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND JESUS HIMSELF,
AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME ,
SO YOU STILL A FAKE AND SO HIS YOUR RELIGION ISLAM
Pierre
PierreIn Islam only God alone is worthy of worship. Any Muslim that worships Muhammad would be completely wrong. Also it has already been made clear in the Quran that the worship of the moon, sun or any other object is a sin.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,19:56) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,09:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,12:18) Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,22:37) Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?
First in regards to prayer a person can pray as much or often as they like.In regards to who is greater between Muhammad or Jesus the Quran says
Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone.
Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #80)All who obey Allah and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #69)Please shimmer join the fellowship look what Jesus even says to you:
Luke 22:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.
25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
bodQuote I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone. WHY IS MUHAMMAD VENERATED MORE THAN JESUS,?
WHERE IS YOUR MONUMENT TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE ONE TO MUHAMMAD IN MECCA RIGHT ?YES.SO WERE IS YOUR VENERATED BUILDING TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE NONE.RIGHT ? YES.
IN FACT ISLAM AS NOTHING THAT COULD SUPPORT JESUS OR ANY OF THE HOLY MAN FROM SCRIPTURES,ONLY BY MERE WORDS BUT NO ACTIONS,,,,,BUT ALL HIS GIVEN TO A MAN THAT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT WOULD BE CONDEMNED BY HIS ACTION FROM GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND JESUS HIMSELF,
AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME ,
SO YOU STILL A FAKE AND SO HIS YOUR RELIGION ISLAM
Pierre
PierreIn Islam only God alone is worthy of worship. Any Muslim that worships Muhammad would be completely wrong. Also it has already been made clear in the Quran that the worship of the moon, sun or any other object is a sin.
Bod
A Muslim is a carnal man and so lying can be done easily look around you in the Muslim world,say one thing and the other,look at you you try to convince people to come to Islam ,but you are no saying the truth ,about it ,but this does not disturbed you because if you think that is ok you can declare your selve truthful and say Allah knows,I am truthful ,and bingo who can argue with that right ? Well the true God can ,because you will be not judged by the Koran but by your self,And the Koran man made book can lie and contradict it selves ,we have showed you but you do not care,people assemble to we're they belong and fit best ,the people of the true GOD WITH GOD AND HIS SON,and others like the Muslims will go we're they fit best ,with carnal people and violent people,controversial people,not respecting live ,ect
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,14:18) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,19:56) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,09:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,12:18) Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,22:37) Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?
First in regards to prayer a person can pray as much or often as they like.In regards to who is greater between Muhammad or Jesus the Quran says
Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone.
Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #80)All who obey Allah and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #69)Please shimmer join the fellowship look what Jesus even says to you:
Luke 22:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.
25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
bodQuote I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone. WHY IS MUHAMMAD VENERATED MORE THAN JESUS,?
WHERE IS YOUR MONUMENT TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE ONE TO MUHAMMAD IN MECCA RIGHT ?YES.SO WERE IS YOUR VENERATED BUILDING TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE NONE.RIGHT ? YES.
IN FACT ISLAM AS NOTHING THAT COULD SUPPORT JESUS OR ANY OF THE HOLY MAN FROM SCRIPTURES,ONLY BY MERE WORDS BUT NO ACTIONS,,,,,BUT ALL HIS GIVEN TO A MAN THAT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT WOULD BE CONDEMNED BY HIS ACTION FROM GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND JESUS HIMSELF,
AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME ,
SO YOU STILL A FAKE AND SO HIS YOUR RELIGION ISLAM
Pierre
PierreIn Islam only God alone is worthy of worship. Any Muslim that worships Muhammad would be completely wrong. Also it has already been made clear in the Quran that the worship of the moon, sun or any other object is a sin.
Bod A Muslim is a carnal man and so lying can be done easily look around you in the Muslim world,say one thing and the other,look at you you try to convince people to come to Islam ,but you are no saying the truth ,about it ,but this does not disturbed you because if you think that is ok you can declare your selve truthful and say Allah knows,I am truthful ,and bingo who can argue with that right ? Well the true God can ,because you will be not judged by the Koran but by your self,And the Koran man made book can lie and contradict it selves ,we have showed you but you do not care,people assemble to we're they belong and fit best ,the people of the true GOD WITH GOD AND HIS SON,and others like the Muslims will go we're they fit best ,with carnal people and violent people,controversial people,not respecting live ,ect
Pierre
Actually I never asked you to become Muslim I just try to make sure you actually understand what you like to condemn.Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,23:14) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,14:18) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,19:56) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,09:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2012,12:18) Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,22:37) Bod, in Islam who is greater.
Mohammad or Jesus?And Bod, you didn't answer my question (I don't think)-
Do Muslims pray to God by Routine only, or pray whenever they feel to?
First in regards to prayer a person can pray as much or often as they like.In regards to who is greater between Muhammad or Jesus the Quran says
Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone.
Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #80)All who obey Allah and the apostle are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of Allah,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #69)Please shimmer join the fellowship look what Jesus even says to you:
Luke 22:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest.
25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
bodQuote I keep explaining to you guys here that Muhammad and Jesus told us to WORSHIP GOD Alone. WHY IS MUHAMMAD VENERATED MORE THAN JESUS,?
WHERE IS YOUR MONUMENT TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE ONE TO MUHAMMAD IN MECCA RIGHT ?YES.SO WERE IS YOUR VENERATED BUILDING TO JESUS ? YOU HAVE NONE.RIGHT ? YES.
IN FACT ISLAM AS NOTHING THAT COULD SUPPORT JESUS OR ANY OF THE HOLY MAN FROM SCRIPTURES,ONLY BY MERE WORDS BUT NO ACTIONS,,,,,BUT ALL HIS GIVEN TO A MAN THAT IS NOT IN THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT WOULD BE CONDEMNED BY HIS ACTION FROM GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND JESUS HIMSELF,
AND ALL KNOW THAT ALLAH IS THE OLD NAME FOR THE MOON GOD IN BABYLONIAN TIME ,
SO YOU STILL A FAKE AND SO HIS YOUR RELIGION ISLAM
Pierre
PierreIn Islam only God alone is worthy of worship. Any Muslim that worships Muhammad would be completely wrong. Also it has already been made clear in the Quran that the worship of the moon, sun or any other object is a sin.
Bod A Muslim is a carnal man and so lying can be done easily look around you in the Muslim world,say one thing and the other,look at you you try to convince people to come to Islam ,but you are no saying the truth ,about it ,but this does not disturbed you because if you think that is ok you can declare your selve truthful and say Allah knows,I am truthful ,and bingo who can argue with that right ? Well the true God can ,because you will be not judged by the Koran but by your self,And the Koran man made book can lie and contradict it selves ,we have showed you but you do not care,people assemble to we're they belong and fit best ,the people of the true GOD WITH GOD AND HIS SON,and others like the Muslims will go we're they fit best ,with carnal people and violent people,controversial people,not respecting live ,ect
Pierre
Actually I never asked you to become Muslim I just try to make sure you actually understand what you like to condemn.
BodYou would ,in a deceiving way ,by trying to show some truth into the lie s of the Koran,
But it. Happen that I did my home work so to speak,
I have family in the flesh that are Muslim,and I know a few,
Plus look at what happen in the middle east,
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,16:24) Bod You would ,in a deceiving way ,by trying to show some truth into the lie s of the Koran,
But it. Happen that I did my home work so to speak,
I have family in the flesh that are Muslim,and I know a few,
Plus look at what happen in the middle east,
Pierre
I have never tried to deceive you nor convince you to convert to Islam if God should Guide you that way then God Bless you but I have not told you to convert to Islam because I could not even say that to you until you realized that there is ONLY ONE GOD. Once a person understands and accepts that the Lord is One God then Islam becomes natural to them but I don't say it's wrong to be a Christian or that the Christian is condemned in any way because the Christian is Judged according to how he judges others
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