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    bodhitharta
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    #275025
    Ed J
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,15:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,15:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,14:57)

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:18)
    Hi BD,

    Are YOU still having  “trouble” understanding the bible?
    The word “Lord” seems to be confusing you big-time!

    “Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart,
    and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut.6:5)

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Matthew 22:37-38

    King James Version (KJV)

    37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38This is the first and great commandment.

    This is not Deutoronomy and YHVH or Jehovah is not in the NT so are you going to keep denying God's Lordship?


    Hi BD,

    Matt 22:36-37 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all
    thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    That is not in ANY version of the Bible but that is common for you to put anything you want in there


    Hi BD,

    It is the English translators who changed [יהוה] YHVH to “The LORD”,
    not the other way around as you are FALSELY suggesting?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Not in the NT


    Hi BD,

    Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
    It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
    “THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
    We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.

    JEHOVAH is The LORD!           …The Owner            …Father
    Jesus is Lord.                       …Owner                  …Son

    Can't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
    in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!

    It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
    with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
    Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
    because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?


    Hi BD,

    Do you believe there is more than one God?
    If you say no, then  “THE”  is NOT NEEDED.   …do you disagree?   …if so why?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275026
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:11)



    Hi BD,

    That has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with murderous butchering islamists?   …what makes you think it does?

    I would expect you to help out the guy as well. :D

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275029
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:36)


    Hi BD,

    That video has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with murderous butchering islamists!   …what makes you think it does?

    What if the guy was an atheist?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275034
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:04)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,15:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,15:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,14:57)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,12:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:18)
    Hi BD,

    Are YOU still having  “trouble” understanding the bible?
    The word “Lord” seems to be confusing you big-time!

    “Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart,
    and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut.6:5)

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Matthew 22:37-38

    King James Version (KJV)

    37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38This is the first and great commandment.

    This is not Deutoronomy and YHVH or Jehovah is not in the NT so are you going to keep denying God's Lordship?


    Hi BD,

    Matt 22:36-37 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all
    thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    That is not in ANY version of the Bible but that is common for you to put anything you want in there


    Hi BD,

    It is the English translators who changed [יהוה] YHVH to “The LORD”,
    not the other way around as you are FALSELY suggesting?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Not in the NT


    Hi BD,

    Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
    It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
    “THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
    We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.

    JEHOVAH is The LORD!           …The Owner            …Father
    Jesus is Lord.                       …Owner                  …Son

    Can't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
    in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!

    It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
    with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
    Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
    because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?


    Hi BD,

    Do you believe there is more than one God?
    If you say no, then  “THE”  is NOT NEEDED.   …do you disagree?   …if so why?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    ED

    I was hoping you were starting to be more honest

    Do you say “Sun” or “The Sun”

    Once again and this time learn it for good

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-definite-article.htm

    A definite article is a part of speech which is used in front of a noun. Definite articles are used as a specifier when the noun is known either because it is unique, or because it has been previously introduced in context.

    #275036
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:14)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:36)


    Hi BD,

    That video has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with murderous butchering islamists!   …what makes you think it does?

    What if the guy was an atheist?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    If the guy was an Atheist then glory be to God!

    #275039
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:11)



    Hi BD,

    That has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with murderous butchering islamists?   …what makes you think it does?

    I would expect you to help out the guy as well. :D

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Where are all these butchering Islamists

    Have you not seen all over the middle east peaceful uprisings by the Muslim people and the only violence comes from dictators running those countries and most of these dictators are secularist

    #275046
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:37)


    Hi BD, it is amazing what B.S. islamists will go to!

    Muslims themselves bow down to a graven image (called 'the Kaba') five times a day!

    Exodus 20:4-5 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
    of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
    under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for  “I YHVH thy God”(151) a jealous God,
    visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them (muslims) that hate me;

                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

    B'shem
    YHVH
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #275051
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:37)


    Hi BD, it is amazing what B.S. islamists will go to!

    Muslims themselves bow down to a graven image (called 'the Kaba') five times a day!

    Exodus 20:4-5 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
    of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
    under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for  “I YHVH thy God”(151) a jealous God,
    visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them (muslims) that hate me;

                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

    B'shem
    YHVH
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)


    Praying in a certain direction is only for a matter of unity. When people pray in church or at home together do they really disband in several directions. If they are at the dinner table aren't they all centering in on the meal they are thankful for? the location of the Kaba is the site of THE ORIGINAL HOUSE of PRAYER.

    Isaiah 56:7
    Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

    This is the Pilgrimage but you don't understand

    #275057
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,05:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:14)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:36)


    Hi BD,

    That video has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with murderous butchering islamists!   …what makes you think it does?

    What if the guy was an atheist?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    If the guy was an Atheist then glory be to God!


    Hi BD,

    THE OTHER GUY!   …not the robber?   …are you really that d—?   …%$I&%@^$#I&$&O%^$

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275058
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    This should be in the reason thread, since NOW you are at least appearing to reason it out with me! (Isa 1:18)

    Isa 1:18-20 Come now, and let us reason together, saith YHVH: though your sins be as scarlet,
    they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

    If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: But if ye refuse and
    rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword:
    for the mouth of YHVH hath spoken it.

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275059
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,05:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:04)
    Hi BD,

    Do you believe there is more than one God?
    If you say no, then  “THE”  is NOT NEEDED.  

    B'shem
    YHVH


    ED

    I was hoping you were starting to be more honest

    Do you say “Sun” or “The Sun”

    Once again and this time learn it for good


    Hi BD,

    That is easy, “The Sun”, because some planets have more than one sun.
    Do you somehow foolishly believe there is more than one (YHVH) “GOD”?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275060
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,06:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:53)

    Muslims themselves bow down to a graven image (called 'the Kaba') five times a day!

    Exodus 20:4-5 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
    of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
    under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for  “I YHVH thy God”(151) a jealous God,
    visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them (muslims) that hate me;

    B'shem
    YHVH
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)


    Praying in a certain direction is only for a matter of unity. When people pray in church or at home together do they really disband in several directions. If they are at the dinner table aren't they all centering in on the meal they are thankful for? the location of the Kaba is the site of THE ORIGINAL HOUSE of PRAYER.

    Isaiah 56:7
    Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

    This is the Pilgrimage but you don't understand


    Hi BD,

    Isaiah 56:7 is talking about “Mount Zion”, which is in Jerusalem, Israel; NOT Saudi Arabia!
    If you really believe Isaiah 56:7 is talking about Saudi Arabia then you really do have rocks for brains. (Job 41:24)

    Besides, here is what Jesus (Isa) said concerning your confusion…

    John 4:20-24 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
    21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem,
    worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
    23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth:
    for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is Spirit: and they that worship YHVH must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy(YHVH=63) truth: thy word(The Bible=63) is truth.

    B'shem
    YHVH
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #275108
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,07:19)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,05:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:04)
    Hi BD,

    Do you believe there is more than one God?
    If you say no, then  “THE”  is NOT NEEDED.  

    B'shem
    YHVH


    ED

    I was hoping you were starting to be more honest

    Do you say “Sun” or “The Sun”

    Once again and this time learn it for good


    Hi BD,

    That is easy, “The Sun”, because some planets have more than one sun.
    Do you somehow foolishly believe there is more than one (YHVH) “GOD”?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    planets do not have more than one sun, can you name such a planet?

    In THE Solar System there is only One Sun

    #275139
    shimmer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,01:08)

    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 28 2012,21:52)

      You guys overquote.


    Hi Shimmer, NOT SO!

    Not everyone follows every thread. Some people only click on the last page.
    So it is therefore advantages, so hold smaller topical conversations together.
    I hope you can understand why we both do this. As the smaller topics veer, I…

              * 1. Sometimes clip the older parts off.
              * 2. Sometimes post with no quote reference.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Ed, it makes it too hard for others to follow, because People don't read the quotes.  Only if it's to see what Question the poster may have been answering, but if it's a huge quote, How can they find the question?

    Bod, I believe Muslims are true genuine God loving people who are deceived.  I don't agree though with what Ed is saying.  Ed says Islam is THE worst thing there ever was to be (it seems).  I think the Muslim people are NOT worser than the so called Christian westerners, they are both the same though in different ways.  In a Religion such as Christianity, Hypocracy can be worser than misled people.

    #275140
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 30 2012,14:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,01:08)

    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 28 2012,21:52)

      You guys overquote.


    Hi Shimmer, NOT SO!

    Not everyone follows every thread. Some people only click on the last page.
    So it is therefore advantages, so hold smaller topical conversations together.
    I hope you can understand why we both do this. As the smaller topics veer, I…

              * 1. Sometimes clip the older parts off.
              * 2. Sometimes post with no quote reference.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Ed, it makes it too hard for others to follow, because People don't read the quotes.  Only if it's to see what Question the poster may have been answering, but if it's a huge quote, How can they find the question?

    Bod, I believe Muslims are true genuine God loving people who are deceived.  I don't agree though with what Ed is saying.  Ed says Islam is THE worst thing there ever was to be (it seems).  I think the Muslim people are NOT worser than the so called Christian westerners, they are both the same though in different ways.  In a Religion such as Christianity, Hypocracy can be worser than misled people.


    Shimmer :)

    If Loving God genuinely with all my heart , soul and mind is me or other Muslims being deceived what is it then when you feel love for God?

    #275142
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,12:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,07:19)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,05:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:04)
    Hi BD,

    Do you believe there is more than one God?
    If you say no, then  “THE”  is NOT NEEDED.  

    B'shem
    YHVH


    ED

    I was hoping you were starting to be more honest

    Do you say “Sun” or “The Sun”

    Once again and this time learn it for good


    Hi BD,

    That is easy, “The Sun”, because some planets have more than one sun.
    Do you somehow foolishly believe there is more than one (YHVH) “GOD”?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    planets do not have more than one sun, can you name such a planet?

    In THE Solar System there is only One Sun


    Kepler Discovers a Planet with Two Suns

    Sept. 15, 2011: The existence of a world with a double sunset, as portrayed in the film Star Wars more than 30 years ago, is now scientific fact. NASA's Kepler mission has made the first unambiguous detection of a circumbinary planet — a planet orbiting two stars — 200 light-years from Earth.

    Unlike Star Wars’ Tatooine, the planet is cold, gaseous and not thought to harbor life, but its discovery demonstrates the diversity of planets in our galaxy. Previous research has hinted at the existence of circumbinary planets, but clear confirmation proved elusive. Kepler detected such a planet, known as Kepler-16b, by observing transits, where the brightness of a parent star dims from the planet crossing in front of it.

    “This discovery confirms a new class of planetary systems that could harbor life,” Kepler principal investigator William Borucki said. “Given that most stars in our galaxy are part of a binary system, this means the opportunities for life are much broader than if planets form only around single stars. This milestone discovery confirms a theory that scientists have had for decades but could not prove until now.”
    Double Suns (splash, 558 px)
    An artist's concept of Kepler-16b, the first planet known to definitively orbit two stars — what's called a circumbinary planet. The planet, which can be seen in the foreground, was discovered by NASA's Kepler mission.

    A research team led by Laurance Doyle of the SETI Institute in Mountain View, Calif., used data from the Kepler space telescope, which measures dips in the brightness of more than 150,000 stars, to search for transiting planets. Kepler is the first NASA mission capable of finding Earth-size planets in or near the “habitable zone,” the region in a planetary system where liquid water can exist on the surface of the orbiting planet.

    Scientists detected the new planet in the Kepler-16 system, a pair of orbiting stars that eclipse each other from our vantage point on Earth. When the smaller star partially blocks the larger star, a primary eclipse occurs, and a secondary eclipse occurs when the smaller star is occulted, or completely blocked, by the larger star.

    Astronomers further observed that the brightness of the system dipped even when the stars were not eclipsing one another, hinting at a third body. The additional dimming in brightness events, called the tertiary and quaternary eclipses, reappeared at irregular intervals of time, indicating the stars were in different positions in their orbit each time the third body passed. This showed the third body was circling, not just one, but both stars, in a wide circumbinary orbit.
    GRAIL (signup)

    The gravitational tug on the stars, measured by changes in their eclipse times, was a good indicator of the mass of the third body. Only a very slight gravitational pull was detected, one that only could be caused by a small mass. The findings are described in a new study published Friday, Sept. 16, in the journal Science.

    “Most of what we know about the sizes of stars comes from such eclipsing binary systems, and most of what we know about the size of planets comes from transits,” said Doyle, who also is the lead author and a Kepler participating scientist. “Kepler-16 combines the best of both worlds, with stellar eclipses and planetary transits in one system.”

    This discovery confirms that Kepler-16b is an inhospitable, cold world about the size of Saturn and thought to be made up of about half rock and half gas. The parent stars are smaller than our sun. One is 69 percent the mass of the sun and the other only 20 percent. Kepler-16b orbits around both stars every 229 days, similar to Venus’ 225-day orbit, but lies outside the system’s habitable zone, where liquid water could exist on the surface, because the stars are cooler than our sun.

    “Working in film, we often are tasked with creating something never before seen,” said visual effects supervisor John Knoll of Industrial Light & Magic, a division of Lucasfilm Ltd., in San Francisco. “However, more often than not, scientific discoveries prove to be more spectacular than anything we dare imagine. There is no doubt these discoveries influence and inspire storytellers. Their very existence serves as cause to dream bigger and open our minds to new possibilities beyond what we think we 'know.'”

    (Link)

    #275152
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,12:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,07:19)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,05:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,05:04)
    Hi BD,

    Do you believe there is more than one God?
    If you say no, then  “THE”  is NOT NEEDED.  

    B'shem
    YHVH


    ED

    I was hoping you were starting to be more honest

    Do you say “Sun” or “The Sun”

    Once again and this time learn it for good


    Hi BD,

    That is easy, “The Sun”, because some planets have more than one sun.
    Do you somehow foolishly believe there is more than one (YHVH) “GOD”?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    planets do not have more than one sun, can you name such a planet?

    In THE Solar System there is only One Sun


    Kepler Discovers a Planet with Two Suns

    Sept. 15, 2011: The existence of a world with a double sunset, as portrayed in the film Star Wars more than 30 years ago, is now scientific fact. NASA's Kepler mission has made the first unambiguous detection of a circumbinary planet — a planet orbiting two stars — 200 light-years from Earth.

    Unlike Star Wars’ Tatooine, the planet is cold, gaseous and not thought to harbor life, but its discovery demonstrates the diversity of planets in our galaxy. Previous research has hinted at the existence of circumbinary planets, but clear confirmation proved elusive. Kepler detected such a planet, known as Kepler-16b, by observing transits, where the brightness of a parent star dims from the planet crossing in front of it.

    “This discovery confirms a new class of planetary systems that could harbor life,” Kepler principal investigator William Borucki said. “Given that most stars in our galaxy are part of a binary system, this means the opportunities for life are much broader than if planets form only around single stars. This milestone discovery confirms a theory that scientists have had for decades but could not prove until now.”
    Double Suns (splash, 558 px)
    An artist's concept of Kepler-16b, the first planet known to definitively orbit two stars — what's called a circumbinary planet. The planet, which can be seen in the foreground, was discovered by NASA's Kepler mission.

    A research team led by Laurance Doyle of the SETI Institute in Mountain View, Calif., used data from the Kepler space telescope, which measures dips in the brightness of more than 150,000 stars, to search for transiting planets. Kepler is the first NASA mission capable of finding Earth-size planets in or near the “habitable zone,” the region in a planetary system where liquid water can exist on the surface of the orbiting planet.

    Scientists detected the new planet in the Kepler-16 system, a pair of orbiting stars that eclipse each other from our vantage point on Earth. When the smaller star partially blocks the larger star, a primary eclipse occurs, and a secondary eclipse occurs when the smaller star is occulted, or completely blocked, by the larger star.

    Astronomers further observed that the brightness of the system dipped even when the stars were not eclipsing one another, hinting at a third body. The additional dimming in brightness events, called the tertiary and quaternary eclipses, reappeared at irregular intervals of time, indicating the stars were in different positions in their orbit each time the third body passed. This showed the third body was circling, not just one, but both stars, in a wide circumbinary orbit.
    GRAIL (signup)

    The gravitational tug on the stars, measured by changes in their eclipse times, was a good indicator of the mass of the third body. Only a very slight gravitational pull was detected, one that only could be caused by a small mass. The findings are described in a new study published Friday, Sept. 16, in the journal Science.

    “Most of what we know about the sizes of stars comes from such eclipsing binary systems, and most of what we know about the size of planets comes from transits,” said Doyle, who also is the lead author and a Kepler participating scientist. “Kepler-16 combines the best of both worlds, with stellar eclipses and planetary transits in one system.”

    This discovery confirms that Kepler-16b is an inhospitable, cold world about the size of Saturn and thought to be made up of about half rock and half gas. The parent stars are smaller than our sun. One is 69 percent the mass of the sun and the other only 20 percent. Kepler-16b orbits around both stars every 229 days, similar to Venus’ 225-day orbit, but lies outside the system’s habitable zone, where liquid water could exist on the surface, because the stars are cooler than our sun.

    “Working in film, we often are tasked with creating something never before seen,” said visual effects supervisor John Knoll of Industrial Light & Magic, a division of Lucasfilm Ltd., in San Francisco. “However, more often than not, scientific discoveries prove to be more spectacular than anything we dare imagine. There is no doubt these discoveries influence and inspire storytellers. Their very existence serves as cause to dream bigger and open our minds to new possibilities beyond what we think we 'know.'”

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    OUR solar system ED the one we call THE SOLAR SYSTEM besides that who would be talking about a lifeless planet anyway?

    #275156
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    When referring to our solar system, I simply say “our solar system”.

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275158
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,01:17)
    Hi BD,

    When referring to our solar system, I simply say “our solar system”.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    If you choose to speak that way it is fine but it is really you just being stubborn and dishonest.

    Exodus 3:6
    Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

    Once again you are taught now will you please learn?

    Can God ever say “I am our God” no He can say “I am God” or I am “The God” The Funny thing is God is very particular about Who He is so He is always through the entire scriptures saying things like

    Joshua 22:22
    `The God of gods — Jehovah, the God of gods — Jehovah, He is knowing, and Israel, he doth know, if in rebellion, and if in trespass against Jehovah (Thou dost not save us this day!)

    1 Samuel 5:8
    And they send and gather all the princes of the Philistines unto them, and say, `What do we do to the ark of the God of Israel?' and they say, `To Gath let the ark of the God of Israel be brought round;' and they bring round the ark of the God of Israel;

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