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- January 28, 2012 at 5:32 am#274779Ed JParticipant
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,14:57) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,12:21) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:18) Hi BD, Are YOU still having “trouble” understanding the bible?
The word “Lord” seems to be confusing you big-time!“Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut.6:5)B'shem
YHVH
Matthew 22:37-38King James Version (KJV)
37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38This is the first and great commandment.
This is not Deutoronomy and YHVH or Jehovah is not in the NT so are you going to keep denying God's Lordship?
Hi BD,Matt 22:36-37 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all
thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.B'shem
YHVH
That is not in ANY version of the Bible but that is common for you to put anything you want in there
Hi BD,It is the English translators who changed [יהוה] YHVH to “The LORD”,
not the other way around as you are FALSELY suggesting?B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 5:36 am#274780bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,15:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,14:57) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,12:21) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:18) Hi BD, Are YOU still having “trouble” understanding the bible?
The word “Lord” seems to be confusing you big-time!“Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut.6:5)B'shem
YHVH
Matthew 22:37-38King James Version (KJV)
37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38This is the first and great commandment.
This is not Deutoronomy and YHVH or Jehovah is not in the NT so are you going to keep denying God's Lordship?
Hi BD,Matt 22:36-37 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all
thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.B'shem
YHVH
That is not in ANY version of the Bible but that is common for you to put anything you want in there
Hi BD,It is the English translators who changed [יהוה] YHVH to “The LORD”,
not the other way around as you are FALSELY suggesting?B'shem
YHVH
Not in the NTJanuary 28, 2012 at 6:18 am#274785Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,15:36) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,15:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,14:57) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,12:21) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:18) Hi BD, Are YOU still having “trouble” understanding the bible?
The word “Lord” seems to be confusing you big-time!“Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut.6:5)B'shem
YHVH
Matthew 22:37-38King James Version (KJV)
37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38This is the first and great commandment.
This is not Deutoronomy and YHVH or Jehovah is not in the NT so are you going to keep denying God's Lordship?
Hi BD,Matt 22:36-37 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all
thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.B'shem
YHVH
That is not in ANY version of the Bible but that is common for you to put anything you want in there
Hi BD,It is the English translators who changed [יהוה] YHVH to “The LORD”,
not the other way around as you are FALSELY suggesting?B'shem
YHVH
Not in the NT
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 10:29 am#274797shimmerParticipantSarah in the bible called her husband Lord. (Abraham).
Lord means:- 1. a person who has authority, control, or power over others; a master, chief, or ruler.
2. a person who exercises authority from property rights; an owner of land, houses, etc.
3. a person who is a leader or has great influence in a chosen profession: the great lords of banking.
4. a feudal superior; the proprietor of a manor.
5. a titled nobleman or peer; a person whose ordinary appellation contains by courtesy the title Lord or some higher title.The head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. (1Cor.11)
There is an order to things.
Lord, like God, is also a Title Bod.January 28, 2012 at 10:37 am#274798ProclaimerParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,10:50) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 28 2012,06:35) God is LORD (YHWH) and Jesus is Lord (kurios).
They are 2 different words and you haven't catered for that in your poll.Acts 2:36
“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”So the poll is incomplete because one is YHWH and the other was made kurios over his creation. Where is that option?
Sorry T8 their is no upper and lower cases in Hebrew and Jesus said you cannot serve 2 masters so who is your Lord. Don't you even cal Jesus lord of lords?Jesus said this:
Mark 12:29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:Notice the spelling and capitalization is normal. Is Jesus right T8, is The Lord our God ONE Lord? Yes or No
If so why do you have two Lords of any spelling?
The head of the man is Christ and the head of Christ is God.Look at Revelation. God gave it to Jesus who sent it to his angel who gave it to John who gave it to the seven churches.
There is a divine order to things. Best you get in line, or miss out.
January 28, 2012 at 10:48 am#274801Ed JParticipantQuote (shimmer @ Jan. 28 2012,20:29) Sarah in the bible called her husband Lord. (Abraham).
Lord means:- 1. a person who has authority, control, or power over others; a master, chief, or ruler.
2. a person who exercises authority from property rights; an owner of land, houses, etc.
3. a person who is a leader or has great influence in a chosen profession: the great lords of banking.
4. a feudal superior; the proprietor of a manor.
5. a titled nobleman or peer; a person whose ordinary appellation contains by courtesy the title Lord or some higher title.The head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. (1Cor.11)
There is an order to things.
Lord, like God, is also a Title Bod.
Hi Shimmer, that's an excellent point!“GOD” is a much stronger word than “Lord”,
it means both “Creator” and “absolute authority”.
Cannot get any higher than that! (See Psalm 83:18)B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 11:11 am#274807Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,11:50) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,11:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,11:17) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,09:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,05:28)
ED is Jesus your Lord or is YHVH your Lord?
Hi BD,Is your memory that bad, or are you just trying to be deceptive like your false prophet?
You ask this same question in almost every thread you start; so here's my answer again…First: [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā translates directly into English as YHVH. (AKJV Bible: JEHOVAH)
Secondly: [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă translates directly into English as Joshua. (AKJV Bible: Jesus)[אדני] Âdônây in Hebrew means: “Lord” or “Owner” and is akin to
[Κύριος] kü-rē-ŏs in Greek meaning “The Same”: “Lord” or “Owner”“YOU” CANNOT argue with this “Bible Truth”! (LORD: means Owner)
I will orchestrate my explanation around the term “Owner”.
The AKJV Bible uses: Lord for [יהשוע] & LORD for [יהוה].The Same issue: A Closer Examination
Technically Jesus is: “owner” but NOT “THE OWNER”!
Lord is more easily understood using the word “Owner”!Jehovah is: “The Owner”, and Jesus is: The Son of “The Owner”.
Jehovah CANNOT DIE, so Jehovah will ALWAYS remain “The Owner”!
A Son can 'only' become become fully “The Owner” if the Parent dies,
which in JEHOVAH's case cannot happen; because GOD CANNOT DIE!B'shem
YHVH
Hi BD,The answer to your question is found in this post; did you not read it?
B'hem
YHVH
You need to clearly say it and write it do you think you might offend One Lord by claiming the Other? This is why no one can serve two mastersYou ask me who is Lord I say “God Almighty” you and T8 are double minded
James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.Your heart is not pure
Deuteronomy 4:39
Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Hi BD,Quit trying to force a square peg(The Bible) into a round hole(the quran).
Mammon (money) -“OR”- YHVH (GOD)
Matt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.Wow, I just noticed: Mohammad looks very much like Mammon!
B'shem
YHVH
Jesus wasn't just talking about money if he was he would have simply said that If you had spriritual discernment you could easily follow the logical conclusion of the statementBut the first statement is you cannot serve 2 Masters and that is exactly what you are trying to do.
Muhammad is not my Lord
Jesus is not my LordGod Almighty is the Lord and there is none else
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #31)
FALSE!Mammon: Hebrew #3126
Original Word: μαμωνᾶς, ᾶ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: mamónas
Phonetic Spelling: (mam-mo-nas')
Short Definition: riches, money, possessions
Definition: (Aramaic), riches, money, possessions, property.This is what your false prophet loved ‘Booty’, that is why he would…
1. Kill the people on caravan routes to steel their money.
2. Kill the men to steal their wives and daughters.
3. Kill all that oppose his evil dictatorship.
4. Keep girls alive as sex ‘slaves’.
5. Keep boys alive as ‘slaves’.You really can't get much more ‘evil’ than your false prophet;
you, my friend, have swallowed death! Vomit it up and live!B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 11:51 am#274811shimmerParticipantEd, Bod said to you:
Quote Jesus wasn't just talking about money if he was he would have simply said that If you had spriritual discernment you could easily follow the logical conclusion of the statement. And you said: FALSE!
Ed, with that Scripture “Ye cannot serve God and mammon” Mammon can be anything you make to be a God.
Your Computer could be a god, if you serve it all Day long!
January 28, 2012 at 11:52 am#274812shimmerParticipantYou guys overquote.
January 28, 2012 at 12:58 pm#274826Ed JParticipantQuote (shimmer @ Jan. 28 2012,21:51) Ed, Bod said to you: Quote Jesus wasn't just talking about money if he was he would have simply said that If you had spriritual discernment you could easily follow the logical conclusion of the statement. And you said: FALSE!
Ed, with that Scripture “Ye cannot serve God and mammon” Mammon can be anything you make to be a God.
Your Computer could be a god, if you serve it all Day long!
Hi Shimmer,Did you not read the definition of mammon, the word Jesus chose to use?
If he meant something else, he would have used a different word;
like idol, if that is what you are suggesting he really meant.B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 1:08 pm#274827Ed JParticipantQuote (shimmer @ Jan. 28 2012,21:52)
You guys overquote.
Hi Shimmer, NOT SO!Not everyone follows every thread. Some people only click on the last page.
So it is therefore advantages, so hold smaller topical conversations together.
I hope you can understand why we both do this. As the smaller topics veer, I…* 1. Sometimes clip the older parts off.
* 2. Sometimes post with no quote reference.B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 3:20 pm#274846bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,15:36) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,15:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,14:57) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,12:21) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,12:18) Hi BD, Are YOU still having “trouble” understanding the bible?
The word “Lord” seems to be confusing you big-time!“Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut.6:5)B'shem
YHVH
Matthew 22:37-38King James Version (KJV)
37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38This is the first and great commandment.
This is not Deutoronomy and YHVH or Jehovah is not in the NT so are you going to keep denying God's Lordship?
Hi BD,Matt 22:36-37 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all
thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.B'shem
YHVH
That is not in ANY version of the Bible but that is common for you to put anything you want in there
Hi BD,It is the English translators who changed [יהוה] YHVH to “The LORD”,
not the other way around as you are FALSELY suggesting?B'shem
YHVH
Not in the NT
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVH
Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?January 28, 2012 at 3:23 pm#274847bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,22:58) Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 28 2012,21:51) Ed, Bod said to you: Quote Jesus wasn't just talking about money if he was he would have simply said that If you had spriritual discernment you could easily follow the logical conclusion of the statement. And you said: FALSE!
Ed, with that Scripture “Ye cannot serve God and mammon” Mammon can be anything you make to be a God.
Your Computer could be a god, if you serve it all Day long!
Hi Shimmer,Did you not read the definition of mammon, the word Jesus chose to use?
If he meant something else, he would have used a different word;
like idol, if that is what you are suggesting he really meant.B'shem
YHVH
The point was you cannot serve two masters and you serve many masters ED apparently Satan has become one of them it seemsJanuary 28, 2012 at 4:16 pm#274854Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVH
Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?
Hi BD,There are many “Lords” and many “Kings”, but ONLY ONE GOD!
Though there are fakes, like ‘the god’ of the false prophet.B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 4:24 pm#274856bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVH
Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?
Hi BD,There are many “Lords” and many “Kings”, but ONLY ONE GOD!
Though there are fakes, like ‘the god’ of the false prophet.B'shem
YHVH
So you now admit that there are no moon gods or any other gods? Good at least you're starting to grow and learn.January 28, 2012 at 4:44 pm#274861Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,02:24) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVH
Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?
Hi BD,There are many “Lords” and many “Kings”, but ONLY ONE GOD!
Though there are fakes, like ‘the god’ of the false prophet.B'shem
YHVH
So you now admit that there are no moon gods or any other gods? Good at least you're starting to grow and learn.
Hi BD,'Lord al-Lah'(83) the 'moongod'(83) 'is satan'(83); NO god at all!
B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 4:58 pm#274866bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,02:24) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVH
Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?
Hi BD,There are many “Lords” and many “Kings”, but ONLY ONE GOD!
Though there are fakes, like ‘the god’ of the false prophet.B'shem
YHVH
So you now admit that there are no moon gods or any other gods? Good at least you're starting to grow and learn.
Hi BD,'Lord al-Lah'(83) the 'moongod'(83) 'is satan'(83); NO god at all!
B'shem
YHVH
Praise ALLAH! You are starting to understand that there is no god but God and no al-lah but ALLAHDo you still believe that Satan is the god of this world according to the scriptures you prefer?
January 28, 2012 at 5:11 pm#274874Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,02:58) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,02:24) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:20) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:18)
Hi BD,Jesus is calling YHVH “The LORD”, you think differently?
It's really simple: this is why we the use the definite article,
“THE” (LORD) distinguishes YHVH(God) from Jesus(God's Son).
We also distinguish the difference with capitalization; LORD/Lord.JEHOVAH is The LORD! …The Owner …Father
Jesus is Lord. …Owner …SonCan't get much simpler. YOU try to complicate the simple,
in an attempt to justify the 'book of fraud'; but it won't work!It won't work any more than you trying to discredit the bible
with the bible; you are just exposing the falseness of islam!
Also there is no need to use the definite article with God,
because we both know there is ONLY ONE (YHVH) GOD!B'shem
YHVH
Why is it when I say ALLAH=The God you say “The” doesn't mean what I explain to you it means and then you turn around and like a thief steal the explanation to try to justify your own confusion?
Hi BD,There are many “Lords” and many “Kings”, but ONLY ONE GOD!
Though there are fakes, like ‘the god’ of the false prophet.B'shem
YHVH
So you now admit that there are no moon gods or any other gods? Good at least you're starting to grow and learn.
Hi BD,'Lord al-Lah'(83) the 'moongod'(83) 'is satan'(83); NO god at all!
B'shem
YHVH
Praise ALLAH! You are starting to understand that there is no god but God and no al-lah but ALLAHDo you still believe that Satan is the god of this world according to the scriptures you prefer?
Hi BD,al-Lah is satan; and he is no god
B'shem
YHVHJanuary 28, 2012 at 8:26 pm#274905bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:11) January 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm#274906bodhithartaParticipant - AuthorPosts
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