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It was after listening to a debate on the Trinity I decided to study it out.I was trinitarian myself but after hearing the debate which was with a modalist,I felt somehow that neither were correct.It was then,at the end of June that I found this article”Testing the Trinity”on the old website after doing a google search on how the trinity doctrine came about.I bookmarked it and read and reread it for an entire weekend and refer to it still. It really opened my eyes and I appreciate the spirit in which it was written.

I’ve argued with JW’s a few times through the years who make some of the same points but always seemed to denigrate Christ.This article didn’t turn me off but brought conviction of the truth that was hard to deny.
After years of attending churches on and off but not reading the Bible,I now am in love with God,Jesus Christ,and His word once again.
Thanks for the courage and conviction to share the truth in love.

Andrew AD

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  • May 12, 2015 at 6:02 am#797145
    DavidL
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    its sad how often people receive counterfeits for truth – but as sheep we are warned of this, and so much more in these last days as the powers of darkness (and religious deception) increase..

    Notice, that all the cults are stepping up their propaganda war to the point where they can, on the surface, actually appear very lovely and genuine, because..over time they have continually crafted and modified their doctrines so as to seem Scriptural and correct – when in fact they are nothing but the inventions and interpretations of carnal men.

    May 12, 2015 at 6:44 am#797146
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Yes the biggest and most powerful cults are those of the whore and her daughters.

    Best to stay within what scripture teaches.

    May 21, 2015 at 10:28 am#798074
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    John 10:27
    My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

    John 17:3
    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

    John 20:17
    Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'”

    Revelation 3:12
    The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

    The only conclusion for not believing Jesus own words is men ignore him, put tradition before him, deny his sonship. and/or are just plain deceived.

    Everyone has the right to believe in Jesus Christ or not. But let’s stop the pretence about listening to him when some definitely do not.

    May 22, 2015 at 3:29 am#798162
    DavidL
    Participant

    “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” – Jesus
    (Rev. 1:8)

    The only conclusion for not believing Jesus own words is men ignore him, put tradition before him, deny his sonship. and/or are just plain deceived.

     

    Everyone has the right to believe in Jesus Christ or not. But let’s stop the pretence about listening to him when some definitely do not.

     

    May 22, 2015 at 3:55 am#798165
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Revelation 1:1Darby Translation (DARBY)

    1 Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to shew to his bondmen what must shortly take place; and he signified [it], sending by his angel, to his bondman John,

    In speaking about “Jesus” John says this:

    Rev 1:6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father: to him [be] the glory and the might to the ages of ages. Amen.

    Once again we see clearly “Jesus” made us a kingdom, priests to

      his GOD and Father

    May 24, 2015 at 5:37 am#798329
    DavidL
    Participant

    Once again we see clearly “Jesus” made us a kingdom, priests to

     

      his GOD and Father

     

    Notice in the introduction of John, the two separate positions the Word has to God..

    “..and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

    Consider that He is both separate from God..

    And yet He is God…

    He is the Lion AND..

    He is the Lamb..

    He is the Son of God and yet..

    He is One with God..

    This is where logic falls apart and intuition kicks in..

    Those who fail to make the switch end up saying things like -“He must be the Father of Himself“etc.

    Like Nicodemus of old – they cannot grasp spiritual reality with their finite mind..

    so they end up with a lopsided view of Jesus..

    taking one side of His reality over the other..

    emphasizing His humanity and diminishing His Deity..

    !!!..Yet He is BOTH – the Son of Man AND the Son of GOD..!!!

    May 24, 2015 at 6:26 am#798337
    kerwin
    Participant

    DavidL,

    No true Jew would use the definition of the word was you have chosen as the Trinity is a new belief that arose in the Roman Empire and not one taught by Moses.

    May 24, 2015 at 7:30 am#798345
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    What sort of mystic language allows WAS to become IS?

    June 10, 2015 at 6:58 pm#799357
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Davdil, you have been brainwashed.

    Not even the words of eternal life from the son of the Living God will convince you.

    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

    Only a brainwashed person can say they listen to Jesus words and then ignore his words.

    There is no other explanation.

    June 13, 2015 at 9:25 am#799456
    DavidL
    Participant

    Not brainwashed – you must take the whole testimony of Jesus Christ in Scripture, not just individual verses that seem to confirm your own view…

    June 13, 2015 at 9:43 am#799461
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    There is no testimony from Jesus Christ about any trinity.

    Unspiritual men have drawn their own carnal conclusions.

    June 13, 2015 at 9:54 am#799465
    DavidL
    Participant

    are you one of these unspiritual men then…?

    Do you not yet know the Father and the Son
    in the One Holy Spirit?

    June 13, 2015 at 10:03 am#799467
    kerwin
    Participant

    DavidL,

    Jesus many times told us that he is the Son of Man and he is that for it is written he was made of the Seed of David as of the flesh. He is also the Son of God as he was given the Spirit of Son-ship by the one true God just as God foretold he would do.

    You already know these things so why don’t you believe them?

    June 13, 2015 at 12:40 pm#799487
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Do you really think that the Holy Spirit is another person from God

    and yet hope to fellowship IN that Spirit

    with the Father and the Son?

    June 15, 2015 at 6:41 am#799550
    DavidL
    Participant

    “And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” – John 14

    June 15, 2015 at 8:11 am#799560
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Yes the Father will send the Spirit of truth to those joined to the Son.

    Thus they too will be one with the Father and the Son.

    June 15, 2015 at 8:55 am#799567
    kerwin
    Participant

    DavidL

    Galatians 5:25-26Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

    June 15, 2015 at 9:02 am#799568
    kerwin
    Participant

    Isaiah 41:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    4
    Who hath wrought and done it,
    calling the generations from the beginning?
    I the Lord, the first,
    and with the last; I am he.

    Isaiah 44:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6
    Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel,
    and his redeemer the Lord of hosts;
    I am the first, and I am the last;
    and beside me there is no God.

    June 17, 2015 at 12:15 pm#799728
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I didn’t know you could put two quotes side by side. I will have a look at your code Kerwin.

    🙂

    June 17, 2015 at 12:17 pm#799729
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I see. It naturally happens if there is enough room. Good to know.

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