Who is the Father

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Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 06 2010,17:04)

WJ,

You have now turned into the deceiver. And you know what you just did…!

Is it possibly in your nature to stop with the accusations?

What is wrong with my analogy?

Is it because it is true that you have to throw stones?

Satan is the accuser of the brethren you know!

February 6, 2010 at 10:38 pm#176184

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Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 06 2010,17:10)

WJ, …with regard to Triniatrians and the broad road.

Why did you add in 'non-christians' to try and dilute your faith which encompasses a world wide audience including the Abomination that is the 'Holy' Roman Catholic Church?

Till just now you have been a stalwart for Trinitarians and I respected you despite our differences – Why did you just do what you just did?

To show you my point that there are many ways of looking at things and your way is not always the right way is it?

Or do you think it is? If you do fine, but you should stop with your condemning remarks!

Blessings WJ

February 6, 2010 at 10:40 pm#176185

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Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 06 2010,17:19)

WJ,
The number of people on this site does not reflect anything to do with the number of faith believers of any camp.

My 'close' trinitarian friends outnumber me by 3-1 – I mean it is me against the three of them. This, however, is incidental and so is the proportional numbers on this site.

– A non-argument.

Exactly the point I have been trying to make!

Thanks WJ

February 6, 2010 at 10:59 pm#176188

JustAskin

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What?

February 6, 2010 at 11:01 pm#176189

JustAskin

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WJ,

I have noticed that your posts have recently been getting very flaky.

I think you are running out of avenues to run down as more people realise your trinity spin is wearing very thin.

February 6, 2010 at 11:51 pm#176196

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Quote (katjo @ Feb. 06 2010,14:34)

Ed, No i do not agree. You keep replacing God with Holy Spirit,(you are adding and taking out)IN Acts 5;3,4 Anania's is asked why he lied to the Holy spirit and Peter tells Him He lied to God! Holy Spirits omnipresence is seen in Psalm 139:7-8, “Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.” in 1 Corinthians 2:10-11,
Holy Spirit is a divine person because He possesses a mind, emotions, and a will. The Holy Spirit thinks and knows (1 Corinthians 2:10). The Holy Spirit can be grieved (Ephesians 4:30). The Spirit intercedes for us (Romans 8:26-27). He makes decisions according to His will (1 Corinthians 12:7-11). the Holy Spirit can function as the Comforter and Counselor that Jesus promised He would be in(John 14:16, 26, 15:26).

katjo

Hi Katjo,

The “HolySpirit” is [θεος] Thēôs (The word: “GOD” in Greek)!

This statement is “Bible Truth”! Can you agree with TRUE statement Katjo?

Sure

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Great!

Your brother in Christ!
Ed J

Hi ED

Fantastic!

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Thank you for agreeing with me that “HolySpirit” is “The Word”: called in Greek [θεος] Thēôs…
John 1:1 In the beginning was “The Word”, and “The Word” was with God, and “The Word” was “God”.
And “The Word”(HolySpirit) was [θεος] Thēôs!

Can you agree with…
GOD The Father is HolySpirit without the satan part!
This statement is “Bible Truth”!

Ed J

February 8, 2010 at 2:19 pm#176444

Anonymous

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hello, been sick but im back. Dont mean to interfer, I will wait till you(ed) and W.j. finish this script.

katjo

February 8, 2010 at 3:07 pm#176446

terraricca

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edj

WJ has a master degree,why do you thank him for it,it took him 5 seconds to figure that one out.

February 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm#176465

NickHassan

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2010,10:51)

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katjo

Hi Katjo,

The “HolySpirit” is [θεος] Thēôs (The word: “GOD” in Greek)!

This statement is “Bible Truth”! Can you agree with TRUE statement Katjo?

Sure

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Great!

Your brother in Christ!
Ed J

Hi ED

Fantastic!

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Can you agree with…
GOD The Father is HolySpirit without the satan part!
This statement is “Bible Truth”!

Ed J

Hi ED,
The Spirit of God is not the Word.
The Word too is of God and is enlivened and explained by the Spirit of God.

February 9, 2010 at 5:17 am#176650

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2010,04:53)

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Quote (katjo @ Feb. 06 2010,14:34)

katjo

Hi Katjo,

The “HolySpirit” is [θεος] Thēôs (The word: “GOD” in Greek)!

This statement is “Bible Truth”! Can you agree with TRUE statement Katjo?

Sure

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Great!

Your brother in Christ!
Ed J

Hi ED

Fantastic!

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Can you agree with…
GOD The Father is HolySpirit without the satan part!
This statement is “Bible Truth”!

Ed J

Hi ED,
The Spirit of God is not the Word.
The Word too is of God and is enlivened and explained by the Spirit of God.

Hi Nick,

Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written,
That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him(Jesus).
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Luke 4:32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.

John 7:38-39 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said,
out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive:
for the HolySpirit was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

John 14:26: But the Comforter, which is the HolySpirit, whom the Father will send in my name,
he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Luke 12:12: For the HolySpirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not,
neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Matt.10:20: For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
John 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world:
thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 9, 2010 at 4:06 pm#176727

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2010,18:51)

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katjo

Hi Katjo,

The “HolySpirit” is [θεος] Thēôs (The word: “GOD” in Greek)!

This statement is “Bible Truth”! Can you agree with TRUE statement Katjo?

Sure, but the Holy Spirit is not the Father! (See I put my full quote back for all the readers).

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Great!

Your brother in Christ!
Ed J

Hi ED

Fantastic!

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Can you agree with…
GOD The Father is HolySpirit without the satan part!
This statement is “Bible Truth”!

Ed J

Why do you keep changing my post!

I said “Sure, but the Holy Spirit is not the Father”.

But you keep clipping out the part “But the Holy Spirit is not the Father”.

That gives the reader a totally different understanding of the conversation and what I am agreeing to.

You should not take half of a sentence out of someones post and make it look like they said something different.

Can you see the error and the decietfulness of what you are doing by manipulating someones words, its very misleading!

Amazingly I put the full quote back in and then you took it out again!

The Spirit is God but not the Father or the Word (Jesus)!

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are One God, in the scriptures.

They have one name in Matt 28:19!

Blessings WJ

February 9, 2010 at 6:22 pm#176749

NickHassan

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Hi WJ,
Jesus is not his own Father God is he?
If not then trinity is a foolish myth.

February 9, 2010 at 9:42 pm#176770

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Hi NH

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2010,13:22)

Hi WJ,
Jesus is not his own Father God is he?

Nope, that is what Modalist believe!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2010,13:22)

If not then trinity is a foolish myth.

This satement doesn't relate to the above statement for Trinitarians do not believe the Father is Jesus

February 9, 2010 at 9:47 pm#176771

NickHassan

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Hi WJ,
No they believe in several gods and then say they are actually one.
So if Jesus is that one god then he is his own father.

February 9, 2010 at 11:10 pm#176788

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 10 2010,03:06)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2010,18:51)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 07 2010,08:39)

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Quote (katjo @ Feb. 06 2010,14:34)

katjo

Hi Katjo,

The “HolySpirit” is [θεος] Thēôs (The word: “GOD” in Greek)!

This statement is “Bible Truth”! Can you agree with TRUE statement Katjo?

Sure, but the Holy Spirit is not the Father! (See I put my full quote back for all the readers).

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

(not so)Great!

Your brother in Christ!
Ed J

Hi ED

Fantastic!

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Can you agree with…
GOD The Father is HolySpirit without the satan part!
This statement is “Bible Truth”!

Ed J

The Spirit is God but not the Father

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

What evidence do you have for this assertion?

The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

I have a whole thread dedicated to the PROOF that…
HolySpirit is “GOD:TheFather” of Jesus Christ!
Click Here to find out why

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 10, 2010 at 1:19 am#176799

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 10 2010,03:06)

The Spirit is God but not the Father or the Word (Jesus)!

Blessings WJ

Hi WJ,

Do you deny all these verses?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 10, 2010 at 5:59 am#176832

Elizabeth

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To all

Ex. 8:10 “… know that there is none like unto the LORD (Jehovah) God.”

Deut. 4:35”…know that the LORD (Jehovah) he is God, there is none else beside him”.

Is. 40:13 “Who has directed the spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taugh him?”

v. 25 “ To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? Saith the Holy One “.

Is. 45:18 “For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he has established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.”

Is. 46:9 “Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, there is none like me.”

Mark 12:32“…well, Master, thou has said the truth, for there is one God and there is none other but he.”

1 Cor. 8:4 “… and that there is none other God but one”.

v. 5 “ For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many “.)

v. 6 “ But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him”.

To me at least, this is more then enough prove, God is one.

Rom. 1:8 “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all…”

1 Cor. 1:4 “I thank my God always on your behalf…”

Phil. 1:3 “I thank my God upon every remembrance of you.”

Col. 1:3 “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…”

1Thes. 1:2 “We give thanks to God always for you all…”

If, the Holy Spirit was a person; why did Paul never thank “him”?

2 John 9 “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.”

“If”, the Holy Spirit was a person, should John not have said, “he has all three of us”?
I'm sure you are all familiar with these next scriptures.

Eph. 1:3 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…”

Eph. 4:6 “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all”.

Col. 1:3 “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…”

So, what is it that you don't understand about, “ONE GOD”?
Who, after reading these scriptures, can still insist, God is three?
Who's spirit do you think you're listening to?

2Cr 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

2Cr 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

“If”, you don't believe the word of God, you are not among the “WE”.

1Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Georg

February 10, 2010 at 6:27 am#176838

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Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 10 2010,16:59)

To all

Is. 40:13 “Who has directed the spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taugh him?”

1 Cor. 8:4 “… and that there is none other God but one”.

Rom. 1:8 “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all…”
1 Cor. 1:4 “I thank my God always on your behalf…”
Phil. 1:3 “I thank my God upon every remembrance of you.”
Col. 1:3 “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…”
1Thes. 1:2 “We give thanks to God always for you all…”

If, the Holy Spirit was a person; why did Paul never thank “him”?

Eph. 4:6 “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all”.

2Cr 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

1Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God;
that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Georg

Hi Georg,

The “HolySpirit” is INDEED a Person and is “The Entity” who is being “Thanked” Called GOD!

HolySpirit is “GOD:The Father” of Jesus Christ

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 10, 2010 at 8:41 am#176865