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  • #328179
    terraricca
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    Marty

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    Hi Pierre:

    I already have shown you that the scriptures do not state that the 144,000 are the only ones redeemed from the earth. It states that they were the only ones redeemed from the earth that could learn the “New Song”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    how many are with Christ and have the name of him and his father on their forehead ??? Rev 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

    is this correct ??? 144,000

    that the scriptures say that their are more than 144,000 redeemed from the earth ???144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth…..NO it does not say 144k OF the redeemed right it says ;;WHO HAD BEEN REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH;;;;; SO NO OTHER ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH,

    NOW WHO ARE THOSE 144,000 IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY ONE ELSE ;

    Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
    Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

    FOR THEM ONLY GOD HAS STOPPED THE HARM TO THE EARTH ,UNTIL THEY (144K ) HAVE BEEN MARKED AND WERE ON THEIR “FOREHEAD” VERSE 3 SAYS THEY ARE THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD ,;;;;;DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER GROUP THAT THEY CALL THIS ??? AND THAT ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH ???

    Rev 7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
    Rev 7:10 And they cried out in a loud voice:
    “Salvation belongs to our God,
    who sits on the throne,
    and to the Lamb.”

    THIS GROUP DOES NOT FOLLOW Christ WERE EVER HE GOES AND DO NOT HAVE THEIR FOREHEAD MARKED IN A SPECIAL WAY FOR THEY ARE CALLED TO BE SERVANTS OF GOD , BUT STAND IN FRONT OF THE THRONE OF GOD ,THIS MEANS AT THE FOOT LEVEL (FOOT STOOL) IN OTHER WORDS ON EARTH , AND WERE THEY COME FROM ???

    and where did they come from?”
    Rev 7:14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
    And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation;;;;;;; BUT HOW ???

    they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
    Rev 7:15 Therefore,
    “they are before the throne of God
    and serve him day and night in his temple;
    and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
    Rev 7:16 Never again will they hunger;
    never again will they thirst.
    The sun will not beat upon them,
    nor any scorching heat.
    Rev 7:17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
    he will lead them to springs of living water.
    And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

    BUT HOW DOES SOMEONE WASH THEIR ROBE ;they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb ;SO THIS MEANS THAT THEY HAVE HAD FAITH AND BELIEVED IN THE WORD OF GOD AND FOLLOWED CHRIST TEACHINGS RIGHT

    SO NOW WE HAVE THE ONLY TWO GROUPS THAT ARE SAVED AND ONE IS COMPOSED OF 144,000 MEMBERS AND ARE IN HEAVEN WITH CHRIST , THE OTHER GROUP IS ON EARTH AND HAS NO LIMIT IN NUMBER ,BUT ALL HAVE BELIEVE IN THE SON OF GOD .

    THIS IS TO ME AS CLEAR AS PURE WATER .

    #328185
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2013,13:05)
    Hi Wakeup:

    And so, what are you trying to prove by your analysis?

    The question was:  “who is the bride of Christ”?  And the scriptures have stated that the church is the bride of Christ.  
    He(Jesus) is the head of the body and we who are born again Christians are members of his body.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328186
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,07:48)
    Abe.

    Thats exactly what I was saying; did you read
    it carefully and analyse it?

    The workers have each their own function to perform.
    They are also share holders.
    The Lord is the head and owner;the saints are the executive staff.And the rest employees,each have a share in the company.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Cool analysis but, you're a little too militant,
    more like: can I speak to the king Janitor.
    (world maintenance man of all Asia)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328208
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,15:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,07:48)
    Abe.

    Thats exactly what I was saying; did you read
    it carefully and analyse it?

    The workers have each their own function to perform.
    They are also share holders.
    The Lord is the head and owner;the saints are the executive staff.And the rest employees,each have a share in the company.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Cool analysis but, you're a little too militant,
    more like: can I speak to the king Janitor.
    (world maintenance man of all Asia)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    What do you mean?

    wakeup.

    #328209
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2013,13:05)
    Hi Wakeup:

    And so, what are you trying to prove by your analysis?

    The question was:  “who is the bride of Christ”?  And the scriptures have stated that the church is the bride of Christ.  He(Jesus) is the head of the body and we who are born again Christians are members of his body.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty.

    Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

    Revelation 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
    ********

    Can you just try to explain these scriptures?
    This woman is before Christ; he was born of her.
    How can *WE* and CHRIST* be this woman?

    anyone?

    wakeup.

    #328225
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,19:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,15:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,07:48)
    Abe.

    Thats exactly what I was saying; did you read
    it carefully and analyse it?

    The workers have each their own function to perform.
    They are also share holders.
    The Lord is the head and owner;the saints are the executive staff.And the rest employees,each have a share in the company.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Cool analysis but, you're a little too militant,
    more like: can I speak to the king Janitor.
    (world maintenance man of all Asia)

    Your brother
    in Christ,
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    What do you mean?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    It's all about family, God is not running a military.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328226
    Ed J
    Participant

    God hates the deeds of the Nicolaitans. (ref. Rev 2:6)

    #328231
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,20:01)

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2013,13:05)
    Hi Wakeup:

    And so, what are you trying to prove by your analysis?

    The question was:  “who is the bride of Christ”?  And the scriptures have stated that the church is the bride of Christ.  He(Jesus) is the head of the body and we who are born again Christians are members of his body.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty.

    Revelation 12:1   And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

     Revelation 12:2   And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
                       ********

    Can you just try to explain these scriptures?
    This woman is before Christ; he was born of her.
    How can *WE* and CHRIST* be this woman?

    anyone?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup:

    The Woman is the Nation of Israel. Jesus was a Jew, and came forth from the nation of Israel and was under the Law, the Old Covenant.

    We are now under the new covenant. Jesus gave his life and has been exalted to the right hand of the Father as head of the church, and we are members of his body.

    Is this clear enough?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #328232
    terraricca
    Participant

    Marty

    ???

    #328251
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2013,02:11)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,20:01)

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2013,13:05)
    Hi Wakeup:

    And so, what are you trying to prove by your analysis?

    The question was:  “who is the bride of Christ”?  And the scriptures have stated that the church is the bride of Christ.  He(Jesus) is the head of the body and we who are born again Christians are members of his body.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty.

    Revelation 12:1   And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

     Revelation 12:2   And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
                       ********

    Can you just try to explain these scriptures?
    This woman is before Christ; he was born of her.
    How can *WE* and CHRIST* be this woman?

    anyone?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup:

    The Woman is the Nation of Israel.  Jesus was a Jew, and came forth from the nation of Israel and was under the Law, the Old Covenant.

    We are now under the new covenant.  Jesus gave his life and has been exalted to the right hand of the Father as head of the church, and we are members of his body.

    Is this clear enough?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty.

    Not correct.

    This woman was shining like the sun and she was not standing on the earth,but the moon.

    Jusus was not born of a corrupt nation.

    wakeup.

    #328252
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,14:36)
    Marty

    Quote
    Hi Pierre:

    I already have shown you that the scriptures do not state that the 144,000 are the only ones redeemed from the earth.  It states that they were the only ones redeemed from the earth that could learn the “New Song”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    how many are with Christ and have  the name of him and his father on their forehead ??? Rev 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

    is this correct ??? 144,000

    that the scriptures say that their are more than 144,000 redeemed from the earth ???144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth…..NO it does not say 144k OF the redeemed right it says ;;WHO HAD BEEN REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH;;;;; SO NO OTHER ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH,

    NOW WHO ARE THOSE 144,000 IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY ONE ELSE ;

    Rev 7:3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
    Rev 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

    FOR THEM ONLY GOD HAS STOPPED THE HARM TO THE EARTH ,UNTIL THEY (144K ) HAVE BEEN MARKED AND WERE ON THEIR “FOREHEAD” VERSE 3 SAYS THEY ARE THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD ,;;;;;DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER GROUP THAT THEY CALL THIS ??? AND THAT ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH ???

    Rev 7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
    Rev 7:10 And they cried out in a loud voice:
    “Salvation belongs to our God,
    who sits on the throne,
    and to the Lamb.”

    THIS GROUP DOES NOT FOLLOW Christ WERE EVER HE GOES AND DO NOT HAVE THEIR FOREHEAD MARKED IN A SPECIAL WAY FOR THEY ARE CALLED TO BE SERVANTS OF GOD , BUT STAND IN FRONT OF THE THRONE OF GOD ,THIS MEANS AT THE FOOT LEVEL (FOOT STOOL) IN OTHER WORDS ON EARTH , AND WERE THEY COME FROM ???

    and where did they come from?”
    Rev 7:14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
    And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation;;;;;;; BUT HOW ???

    they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
    Rev 7:15 Therefore,
    “they are before the throne of God
    and serve him day and night in his temple;
    and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
    Rev 7:16 Never again will they hunger;
    never again will they thirst.
    The sun will not beat upon them,
    nor any scorching heat.
    Rev 7:17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
    he will lead them to springs of living water.
    And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

    BUT HOW DOES SOMEONE WASH  THEIR ROBE ;they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb ;SO THIS MEANS THAT THEY HAVE HAD FAITH AND BELIEVED IN THE WORD OF GOD AND FOLLOWED CHRIST TEACHINGS RIGHT

    SO NOW WE HAVE THE ONLY TWO GROUPS THAT ARE SAVED AND ONE IS COMPOSED OF 144,000 MEMBERS AND ARE IN HEAVEN WITH CHRIST , THE OTHER GROUP IS ON EARTH AND HAS NO LIMIT IN NUMBER ,BUT ALL HAVE BELIEVE IN THE SON OF GOD .

    THIS IS TO ME AS CLEAR AS PURE WATER .


    Terra.

    Who are the the sealed?

    John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, *NOT* because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, *and were filled*.

    John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you. FOR HIM HATH GOD THE FATHER *SEALED*

    THE MULTITUDES:
    Why are they given white robes on the last days?
    Because they were not white before.

    They were given white robes,because they have made the right choice,for not accepting the mark of the beast.

    wakeup.

    #328253
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,09:59)

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2013,05:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 13 2013,14:34)
    Marty

    Quote
    So, Jesus has sheep from the Nation of Israel and from the gentile nations, but it is “one church”.  As you said, they have one shepherd.

    Quote  
    1Cr 12:12 ¶ For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.  

    1Cr 12:13   For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.  

    1Cr 12:14   For the body is not one member, but many.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    what your scriptures really says is that their is one shepherd ,that oversees all  ,but not all are in heaven ,or not all are on earth ,some have been called to serve with Christ and follow him were ever he goes ,being on earth this can not be done ,but we can serve him and his father within our capacity here on earth ,and yet be part of the body of submitted  believers ,and also in Cor 12;13 Paul says ; For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit;;; meaning that it is through his dead (body) that we have received the call of the gospel and so understand that it is by his sacrifice of that body that we are saved as well,and that our sins have been canceled ,Paul also mention that we as believers are made to drink from one spirit ,meaning one teaching ,their is no other .


    Hi Pierre:

    Do the scriptures in Ephesians 5 that I posted indicate that the church is the bride of Christ?

    And is the body of Christ the church?

    Quote
    1Cr 12:12 ¶ For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.  

    1Cr 12:13   For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.  

    1Cr 12:14   For the body is not one member, but many.

    1Cr 12:20   But now [are they] many members, yet but one body.  

    1Cr 12:27   Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.  

    1Cr 12:28   And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.  

    Quote
    Eph 5:30   For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.  

    Eph 5:31   For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.  

    Eph 5:32   This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.  

    And so, according to these scriptures, who is the bride of Christ?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty and abe

    Quote

    Eph 5:30   For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.  

    Eph 5:31   For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.  

    Eph 5:32   This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.  

    And so, according to these scriptures, who is the bride of Christ?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    Amen Marty,

    A person cannot be any plainer then what you have just posted.

    The Body of Christ is the BRIDE.

    Rev.21:24  And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb.

    Matt.6:22   The Lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.

    Peace brothers.

    according to those scriptures the body of Christ are those that have an heavenly call because that is what Paul ad and most of those who were listening to him and sins scriptures in Rev;14 says that their are only 144k redeemed from the earth ,this limits all to that number,
    so the Body also called bride and first fruits are so the 144k ,and all others are called the according to Paul ,1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    I do understand that you may take a different view like you did already but then you will have to change scriptures some how ,

    just like some believe that they are equal to the apostles ,with whom Christ at the last supper ;Lk 22:29 And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me,
    Lk 22:30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    those scriptures are showing that Christ made a covenant with his apostles, similar to what his father made with him

    but so many have been blinded by religion interpretation and eager in position taking what is not theirs ,


    Hi Ter,

    Lk.22:29-30 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; that ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Matt.20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared Of my Father

    Is there a contradiction HERE?

    Peace brothers..

    #328271
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Abe.

    And what babtism did Jesus receive?

    wakeup.

    #328276
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2013,13:39)
    Abe.

    And what babtism did Jesus receive?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Jn.7:39 But this he spoke of the spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive; for the spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

    Peace brother..

    #328285
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Abe.

    This is true; he was babtised with the Holy spirit and he also had to drink of that cup,which is the cross.
    We also have to bear our own cross.

    Through sufferings our worship is made perfect.

    wakeup.

    #328324
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    Quote
    THE MULTITUDES:
    Why are they given white robes on the last days?
    Because they were not white before.

    is this what scriptures says ???

    Rev 7:14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
    And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    #328327
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ Jan. 16 2013,02:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,09:59)

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2013,05:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 13 2013,14:34)
    Marty

    Quote
    So, Jesus has sheep from the Nation of Israel and from the gentile nations, but it is “one church”.  As you said, they have one shepherd.

    Quote  
    1Cr 12:12 ¶ For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.  

    1Cr 12:13   For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.  

    1Cr 12:14   For the body is not one member, but many.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    what your scriptures really says is that their is one shepherd ,that oversees all  ,but not all are in heaven ,or not all are on earth ,some have been called to serve with Christ and follow him were ever he goes ,being on earth this can not be done ,but we can serve him and his father within our capacity here on earth ,and yet be part of the body of submitted  believers ,and also in Cor 12;13 Paul says ; For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit;;; meaning that it is through his dead (body) that we have received the call of the gospel and so understand that it is by his sacrifice of that body that we are saved as well,and that our sins have been canceled ,Paul also mention that we as believers are made to drink from one spirit ,meaning one teaching ,their is no other .


    Hi Pierre:

    Do the scriptures in Ephesians 5 that I posted indicate that the church is the bride of Christ?

    And is the body of Christ the church?

    Quote
    1Cr 12:12 ¶ For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.  

    1Cr 12:13   For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.  

    1Cr 12:14   For the body is not one member, but many.

    1Cr 12:20   But now [are they] many members, yet but one body.  

    1Cr 12:27   Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.  

    1Cr 12:28   And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.  

    Quote
    Eph 5:30   For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.  

    Eph 5:31   For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.  

    Eph 5:32   This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.  

    And so, according to these scriptures, who is the bride of Christ?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty and abe

    Quote

    Eph 5:30   For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.  

    Eph 5:31   For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.  

    Eph 5:32   This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.  

    And so, according to these scriptures, who is the bride of Christ?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    Amen Marty,

    A person cannot be any plainer then what you have just posted.

    The Body of Christ is the BRIDE.

    Rev.21:24  And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb.

    Matt.6:22   The Lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.

    Peace brothers.

    according to those scriptures the body of Christ are those that have an heavenly call because that is what Paul ad and most of those who were listening to him and sins scriptures in Rev;14 says that their are only 144k redeemed from the earth ,this limits all to that number,
    so the Body also called bride and first fruits are so the 144k ,and all others are called the according to Paul ,1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    I do understand that you may take a different view like you did already but then you will have to change scriptures some how ,

    just like some believe that they are equal to the apostles ,with whom Christ at the last supper ;Lk 22:29 And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me,
    Lk 22:30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    those scriptures are showing that Christ made a covenant with his apostles, similar to what his father made with him

    but so many have been blinded by religion interpretation and eager in position taking what is not theirs ,


    Hi Ter,

    Lk.22:29-30   And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; that ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Matt.20:23     And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared Of my Father

    Is there a contradiction HERE?

    Peace brothers..


    ebe

    No contradiction there ,in witch way would you see one ???

    #328339
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:48)
    wup

    Quote
    THE MULTITUDES:
    Why are they given white robes on the last days?
    Because they were not white before.

    is this what scriptures says ???

    Rev 7:14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
    And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


    Terra.

    Their robes are washed,because they were NOT WASHED BEFORE.

    How were their robes washed?
    What is it that they have done to be washed?

    wakeup.

    #328347
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,11:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,11:48)
    wup

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    THE MULTITUDES:
    Why are they given white robes on the last days?
    Because they were not white before.

    is this what scriptures says ???

    Rev 7:14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
    And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


    Terra.

    Their robes are washed,because they were NOT WASHED BEFORE.

    How were their robes washed?
    What is it that they have done to be washed?

    wakeup.


    wup

    if you can not answer that question ,I really recommend that you start to study the scriptures more intensely ,because it seems to me you have mist most of it ,

    #328349
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra,

    You have not answered my question.??

    wakeup.

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