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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,13:22) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,11:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,05:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,08:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,11:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,04:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,08:13) Wakeup, Have you ever considered that God cannot be tempted by evil because he is the source of love and love is the sum of righteousness?
Kerwin.God can not be tempted by anything.
God has *no limits* of what he can do.
God created *ALL* THINGS;*evil included*.
God used evil as a tool to reveal to mankind,
what is evil and what is good.
Without evil that can not be achieved.Evil must be created; and God only can create.
wakeup.
Wakeup,How did anything in your post answer my point.
My point uses the statements in Scripture that that “God is Love” and that “love is the fulfilling of the law”.
Kerwin.God is good.
But HE also cast babies, and children into the lake of fire.God is good.
But he also commanded Moses to kill all the calf
worshippers including their babies.wakeup.
Wakeup,Are you saying God does evil in doing these things?
Scripture tells us God is love so it follows that God acted in love when he ordered the children of Israel to commit genocide against the people who already lived in the Promised Land. The only answer we get if we do not accept any other one is God has mercy on those he has mercy and compassion on those he has compassion, Romans 9:15.
You are not really addressing my point which is God is love and therefore cannot be tempted by evil much less do evil.
In short God is light and in him there is no darkness, 1John 1:5, and that has eternally been true of him.
Kerwin.God is love,light,wisdom.
He also will cast many into the lake of fire.
This is for you to explain.wakeup.
Wakeup,I don't see what that has with the topic we are speaking of. I am speaking of God who has always been the source of spiritual light wrapping himself in physical light on the first Night and Day and you seem to be questioning whether or not he is righteous in his judgement. I am not qualified to judge God's actions.
Kerwin.God does not wrap light around Him.
He is the source of light.
God says: I kill and make alive.
I created evil.
He created leviathan.
He created the waster to destroy.
He created the fallen angels,knowing before hand
that they will cause trouble.
He chose Judas iscariot.
He lets his Son to be crucified.
He did it all.
Because He is in control of His plan,and who can disagree with his way of doing things?
And His plan is to create spiritual children for himself.
Children that know good and evil, and have been through pain and tribulation. Children that truly love Him.
Children that have gone through the fire.
Angels dont have that experience.wakeup.
Wakeup,I was using wrapped to mean covered. Scripture declares he covered himself with light and I previously quoted the passage it does so in.
Psalm 104:2
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment:
who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:Note: Corrected by spelling and grammar.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,19:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,13:22) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,11:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,05:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,08:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,11:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,04:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,08:13) Wakeup, Have you ever considered that God cannot be tempted by evil because he is the source of love and love is the sum of righteousness?
Kerwin.God can not be tempted by anything.
God has *no limits* of what he can do.
God created *ALL* THINGS;*evil included*.
God used evil as a tool to reveal to mankind,
what is evil and what is good.
Without evil that can not be achieved.Evil must be created; and God only can create.
wakeup.
Wakeup,How did anything in your post answer my point.
My point uses the statements in Scripture that that “God is Love” and that “love is the fulfilling of the law”.
Kerwin.God is good.
But HE also cast babies, and children into the lake of fire.God is good.
But he also commanded Moses to kill all the calf
worshippers including their babies.wakeup.
Wakeup,Are you saying God does evil in doing these things?
Scripture tells us God is love so it follows that God acted in love when he ordered the children of Israel to commit genocide against the people who already lived in the Promised Land. The only answer we get if we do not accept any other one is God has mercy on those he has mercy and compassion on those he has compassion, Romans 9:15.
You are not really addressing my point which is God is love and therefore cannot be tempted by evil much less do evil.
In short God is light and in him there is no darkness, 1John 1:5, and that has eternally been true of him.
Kerwin.God is love,light,wisdom.
He also will cast many into the lake of fire.
This is for you to explain.wakeup.
Wakeup,I don't see what that has with the topic we are speaking of. I am speaking of God who has always been the source of spiritual light wrapping himself in physical light on the first Night and Day and you seem to be questioning whether or not he is righteous in his judgement. I am not qualified to judge God's actions.
Kerwin.God does not wrap light around Him.
He is the source of light.
God says: I kill and make alive.
I created evil.
He created leviathan.
He created the waster to destroy.
He created the fallen angels,knowing before hand
that they will cause trouble.
He chose Judas iscariot.
He lets his Son to be crucified.
He did it all.
Because He is in control of His plan,and who can disagree with his way of doing things?
And His plan is to create spiritual children for himself.
Children that know good and evil, and have been through pain and tribulation. Children that truly love Him.
Children that have gone through the fire.
Angels dont have that experience.wakeup.
Wakeup,I was using wrapped to me covered. Scripture declares he covered himself with light and I previously quoted the passage it so in already in this conversation.
Psalm 104:2
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment:
who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
Kerwin.Yes; but God is that light that covered.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2014,14:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,19:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,13:22) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,11:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,05:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,08:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,11:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,04:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,08:13) Wakeup, Have you ever considered that God cannot be tempted by evil because he is the source of love and love is the sum of righteousness?
Kerwin.God can not be tempted by anything.
God has *no limits* of what he can do.
God created *ALL* THINGS;*evil included*.
God used evil as a tool to reveal to mankind,
what is evil and what is good.
Without evil that can not be achieved.Evil must be created; and God only can create.
wakeup.
Wakeup,How did anything in your post answer my point.
My point uses the statements in Scripture that that “God is Love” and that “love is the fulfilling of the law”.
Kerwin.God is good.
But HE also cast babies, and children into the lake of fire.God is good.
But he also commanded Moses to kill all the calf
worshippers including their babies.wakeup.
Wakeup,Are you saying God does evil in doing these things?
Scripture tells us God is love so it follows that God acted in love when he ordered the children of Israel to commit genocide against the people who already lived in the Promised Land. The only answer we get if we do not accept any other one is God has mercy on those he has mercy and compassion on those he has compassion, Romans 9:15.
You are not really addressing my point which is God is love and therefore cannot be tempted by evil much less do evil.
In short God is light and in him there is no darkness, 1John 1:5, and that has eternally been true of him.
Kerwin.God is love,light,wisdom.
He also will cast many into the lake of fire.
This is for you to explain.wakeup.
Wakeup,I don't see what that has with the topic we are speaking of. I am speaking of God who has always been the source of spiritual light wrapping himself in physical light on the first Night and Day and you seem to be questioning whether or not he is righteous in his judgement. I am not qualified to judge God's actions.
Kerwin.God does not wrap light around Him.
He is the source of light.
God says: I kill and make alive.
I created evil.
He created leviathan.
He created the waster to destroy.
He created the fallen angels,knowing before hand
that they will cause trouble.
He chose Judas iscariot.
He lets his Son to be crucified.
He did it all.
Because He is in control of His plan,and who can disagree with his way of doing things?
And His plan is to create spiritual children for himself.
Children that know good and evil, and have been through pain and tribulation. Children that truly love Him.
Children that have gone through the fire.
Angels dont have that experience.wakeup.
Wakeup,I was using wrapped to me covered. Scripture declares he covered himself with light and I previously quoted the passage it so in already in this conversation.
Psalm 104:2
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment:
who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
Kerwin.Yes; but God is that light that covered.
wakeup.
Wakeup,God is not literally spiritual light. Instead spiritual light is an attribute of God.
Is this passage speaking of spiritual or physical light?
1 Timothy 6:16
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,08:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2014,14:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,19:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,13:22) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,11:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,05:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2014,08:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,11:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,04:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2014,08:13) Wakeup, Have you ever considered that God cannot be tempted by evil because he is the source of love and love is the sum of righteousness?
Kerwin.God can not be tempted by anything.
God has *no limits* of what he can do.
God created *ALL* THINGS;*evil included*.
God used evil as a tool to reveal to mankind,
what is evil and what is good.
Without evil that can not be achieved.Evil must be created; and God only can create.
wakeup.
Wakeup,How did anything in your post answer my point.
My point uses the statements in Scripture that that “God is Love” and that “love is the fulfilling of the law”.
Kerwin.God is good.
But HE also cast babies, and children into the lake of fire.God is good.
But he also commanded Moses to kill all the calf
worshippers including their babies.wakeup.
Wakeup,Are you saying God does evil in doing these things?
Scripture tells us God is love so it follows that God acted in love when he ordered the children of Israel to commit genocide against the people who already lived in the Promised Land. The only answer we get if we do not accept any other one is God has mercy on those he has mercy and compassion on those he has compassion, Romans 9:15.
You are not really addressing my point which is God is love and therefore cannot be tempted by evil much less do evil.
In short God is light and in him there is no darkness, 1John 1:5, and that has eternally been true of him.
Kerwin.God is love,light,wisdom.
He also will cast many into the lake of fire.
This is for you to explain.wakeup.
Wakeup,I don't see what that has with the topic we are speaking of. I am speaking of God who has always been the source of spiritual light wrapping himself in physical light on the first Night and Day and you seem to be questioning whether or not he is righteous in his judgement. I am not qualified to judge God's actions.
Kerwin.God does not wrap light around Him.
He is the source of light.
God says: I kill and make alive.
I created evil.
He created leviathan.
He created the waster to destroy.
He created the fallen angels,knowing before hand
that they will cause trouble.
He chose Judas iscariot.
He lets his Son to be crucified.
He did it all.
Because He is in control of His plan,and who can disagree with his way of doing things?
And His plan is to create spiritual children for himself.
Children that know good and evil, and have been through pain and tribulation. Children that truly love Him.
Children that have gone through the fire.
Angels dont have that experience.wakeup.
Wakeup,I was using wrapped to me covered. Scripture declares he covered himself with light and I previously quoted the passage it so in already in this conversation.
Psalm 104:2
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment:
who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
Kerwin.Yes; but God is that light that covered.
wakeup.
Wakeup,God is not literally spiritual light. Instead spiritual light is an attribute of God.
Is this passage speaking of spiritual or physical light?
1 Timothy 6:16
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Kerwin.If you read rev.19.it will tell you how a spiritual body looks like. Wisdom is inside the body. Or the vision of the chariot.
Every person have the same body;but not the same wisdom.wakeup.
Wakeup,
I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Kerwin.God is physical and spiritual light.
Example:
Satan transforming himself into an angels of light.
How does he transform himself?
For he is the angel of the pit.wakeup.
w
Quote Satan transforming himself into an angels of light. this is his thinking and the way it is presented ,to try to deceive even the elect ones if he could , but he cannot deceive them but will deceive many with his false light
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Kerwin.God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.
On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
of exisrence of that light.
That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
This was not the beginning of God's light.PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
Angels are covered with light from within.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,23:32) w Quote Satan transforming himself into an angels of light. this is his thinking and the way it is presented ,to try to deceive even the elect ones if he could , but he cannot deceive them but will deceive many with his false light
T.I agree with that.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:36) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,23:32) w Quote Satan transforming himself into an angels of light. this is his thinking and the way it is presented ,to try to deceive even the elect ones if he could , but he cannot deceive them but will deceive many with his false light
T.I agree with that.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,09:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:36) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,23:32) w Quote Satan transforming himself into an angels of light. this is his thinking and the way it is presented ,to try to deceive even the elect ones if he could , but he cannot deceive them but will deceive many with his false light
T.I agree with that.
wakeup.
T.Dont be surprised.
Everytime you say the right thing I will agree.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,12:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,09:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:36) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,23:32) w Quote Satan transforming himself into an angels of light. this is his thinking and the way it is presented ,to try to deceive even the elect ones if he could , but he cannot deceive them but will deceive many with his false light
T.I agree with that.
wakeup.
T.Dont be surprised.
Everytime you say the right thing I will agree.wakeup.
even if my scriptures are right
yes of cause if not the KJV all is false 
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Kerwin.God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.
On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
of exisrence of that light.
That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
This was not the beginning of God's light.PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
Angels are covered with light from within.wakeup.
Wakeup,I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Kerwin.God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.
On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
of exisrence of that light.
That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
This was not the beginning of God's light.PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
Angels are covered with light from within.wakeup.
Wakeup,I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.
Kerwin.And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
not God's light.
There is no darkness in God's light.
God's presence is light continuously.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Kerwin.God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.
On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
of exisrence of that light.
That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
This was not the beginning of God's light.PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
Angels are covered with light from within.wakeup.
Wakeup,I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.
Kerwin.And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
not God's light.
There is no darkness in God's light.
God's presence is light continuously.wakeup.
Wakeup,There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky. God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts. A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,15:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06) Wakeup, I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.
Kerwin.Yes, God appears as physical light.
His wisdom is spiritual light.wakeup.
Wakeup,I agree. Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?
Kerwin.God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.
On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
of exisrence of that light.
That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
This was not the beginning of God's light.PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
Angels are covered with light from within.wakeup.
Wakeup,I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.
Kerwin.And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
not God's light.
There is no darkness in God's light.
God's presence is light continuously.wakeup.
Wakeup,There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky. God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts. A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.
Kerwin.Please consider.
Genesis 1:4 ***And God saw the light***,
***that it was good***:
***and God divided the light from the darkness***.God just only saw that his light is Good??
wakeup.
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