When will you obey?

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  • #308448
    kerwin
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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,14:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 04 2012,18:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2012,22:37)
    (AKJV Bible)
       
    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed J,

    I have to smile s what you call the AKJV is not the literal AKJV, but only a later day revision of it; just like the NKJV is.  I do not believe King James was even still alive at the time.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Revisions are for spelling corrections and such.
    The NKJV differs as it is a complete rewording of “The Bible”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J.

    I do not know enough about the NKJV but I do know that the KJV has multiple flaws in it. Offhand calling Passover, Easter and translating Hades, Gehenna, and Tartartus all to Hell are obvious ones. There are others I have seen, but some may be because of the change in English.

    I do know the NKJV was supposed to be a revision but you believe it was more. There are signs you are correct.

    #308449
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 07 2012,19:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,14:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 04 2012,18:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2012,22:37)
    (AKJV Bible)
       
    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed J,

    I have to smile s what you call the AKJV is not the literal AKJV, but only a later day revision of it; just like the NKJV is.  I do not believe King James was even still alive at the time.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Revisions are for spelling corrections and such.
    The NKJV differs as it is a complete rewording of “The Bible”.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed J.

    I do not know enough about the NKJV but I  do know that the KJV has multiple flaws in it.  Offhand calling Passover, Easter and translating Hades, Gehenna, and Tartartus all to Hell are obvious ones.  There are others I have seen, but some may be because of the change in English.  

    I do know the NKJV was supposed to be a revision but you believe it was more.  There are signs you are correct.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Neither of those are errors  –  as we have discussed earlier.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308492
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 03 2012,07:10)
    When will you obey Terra?
    The image will be destroyed,to dust. (in scripture).not rebuild.

    Daniel saw till the thrones were cast down,not set up.(scripture).

    I saw till the thrones were cast down and the ancient of days did sit.
    (scripture).

    AND I SAW TILL THE -THRONES- (many) WERE SET UP UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT: this does not compute. makes no sense.

    Babylon destroyed,and the cities of the nations are no more.
    (scripture).The whole image destroyed.

    As for –THE REST— of the beast, THEY ARE PROLONGED FOR A SEASON., BUT THEIR DOMINION IS TAKEN AWAY.

    What rest of the beast?

    The other smaller kingdoms.Their power will be taken away.
    When will you go by the scriptures,not teachers.

    wakeup.


    wup

    the scriptures also says ;the soul that sins his the soul that dies; their are more sinners today alive than ever ,can you not understand that it means something else in time ????

    #308534
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,04:11)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 03 2012,07:10)
    When will you obey Terra?
    The image will be destroyed,to dust. (in scripture).not rebuild.

    Daniel saw till the thrones were cast down,not set up.(scripture).

    I saw till the thrones were cast down and the ancient of days did sit.
    (scripture).

    AND I SAW TILL THE -THRONES- (many) WERE SET UP UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT: this does not compute. makes no sense.

    Babylon destroyed,and the cities of the nations are no more.
    (scripture).The whole image destroyed.

    As for –THE REST— of the beast, THEY ARE PROLONGED FOR A SEASON., BUT THEIR DOMINION IS TAKEN AWAY.

    What rest of the beast?

    The other smaller kingdoms.Their power will be taken away.
    When will you go by the scriptures,not teachers.

    wakeup.


    wup

    the scriptures also says ;the soul that sins his the soul that dies; their are more sinners today alive than ever ,can you not understand that it means something else in time ????


    Terra.

    You said it; there are more and more sinners today.

    If Christ is ruling today for 2000yrs now;my question is:
    Why is he not making any improvements in this world?
    Where is progress?
    Can he rule or not?

    And your comment about the soul; I can not see where you are giong with that comment.

    wakeup.

    #308565
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

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    Why is he not making any improvements in this world?
    Where is progress?

    it makes progress ,see at the flood only 8 were saved when those were place safely in place the deluge started,this is not perceivable by men in general

    Quote
    Can he rule or not?

    at the flood who was in charge ???

    Quote
    And your comment about the soul; I can not see where you are giong with that comment

    see the topic about the soul.

    #308589
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,06:03)
    wup

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    Why is he not making any improvements in this world?
    Where is progress?

    it makes progress ,see at the flood only 8 were saved when those were place safely in place the deluge started,this is not perceivable by men in general

    Quote
    Can he rule or not?

    at the flood who was in charge ???

    Quote
    And your comment about the soul; I can not see where you are giong with that comment

    see the topic about the soul.


    Terra.

    Answer my question first. See above.

    wakeup.

    #308596
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,17:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,06:03)
    wup

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    Why is he not making any improvements in this world?
    Where is progress?

    it makes progress ,see at the flood only 8 were saved when those were place safely in place the deluge started,this is not perceivable by men in general

    Quote
    Can he rule or not?

    at the flood who was in charge ???

    Quote
    And your comment about the soul; I can not see where you are giong with that comment

    see the topic about the soul.


    Terra.

    Answer my question first. See above.

    wakeup.


    wup

    witch one ???

    #308615
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Christ has been ruling for 2000yrs now: Why is there no progress,things are getting worse as paul said in timothy.

    Is Christ really ruling now? That was your claim.

    wakeup.

    #308894
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,18:51)
    Terra.

    Christ has been ruling for 2000yrs now: Why is there no progress,things are getting worse as paul said in timothy.

    Is Christ really ruling now? That was your claim.

    wakeup.


    wup

    the progress is made in Gods way ,toward the end ,and so less and less people will come to the truth ,scriptures says that at the end many will be lovers of everything that his not of God ,

    and this is true ,this is why we have an increase in wickedness

    #308912
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,12:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,18:51)
    Terra.

    Christ has been ruling for 2000yrs now: Why is there no progress,things are getting worse as paul said in timothy.

    Is Christ really ruling now? That was your claim.

    wakeup.


    wup

    the progress is made in Gods way ,toward the end ,and so less and less people will come to the truth ,scriptures says that at the end many will be lovers of everything that his not of God ,

    and this is true ,this is why we have an increase in wickedness


    Terra.

    Did the flood come first,and than the new world;or did the new world come first,and then the flood?

    wakeup.

    #308935
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,12:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,18:51)
    Terra.

    Christ has been ruling for 2000yrs now: Why is there no progress,things are getting worse as paul said in timothy.

    Is Christ really ruling now? That was your claim.

    wakeup.


    wup

    the progress is made in Gods way ,toward the end ,and so less and less people will come to the truth ,scriptures says that at the end many will be lovers of everything that his not of God ,

    and this is true ,this is why we have an increase in wickedness


    Terra.

    Did the flood come first,and than the new world;or did the new world come first,and then the flood?

    wakeup.


    wup

    you mean that the flood separated the bad from the good ???

    so that wen God destroyed with the flood the old system he replace it with a new one

    is this what you are telling me ???

    #308960
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,17:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,12:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,18:51)
    Terra.

    Christ has been ruling for 2000yrs now: Why is there no progress,things are getting worse as paul said in timothy.

    Is Christ really ruling now? That was your claim.

    wakeup.


    wup

    the progress is made in Gods way ,toward the end ,and so less and less people will come to the truth ,scriptures says that at the end many will be lovers of everything that his not of God ,

    and this is true ,this is why we have an increase in wickedness


    Terra.

    Did the flood come first,and than the new world;or did the new world come first,and then the flood?

    wakeup.


    wup

    you mean that the flood separated the bad from the good ???

    so that wen God destroyed with the flood the old system he replace it with a new one

    is this what you are telling me ???


    Terra.

    what I am doing is giving an example; You dont build a new one first and then destroy the old one;but destroy the old one first and then build the new one.Not vice versa.

    example: the flood came to destroy the old world;after the flood,Noah started the new world today.
    The old world was in the days of Noah,Enoch,Methusaleh etc.

    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wakeup.

    #308994
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

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    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wakeup.

    show me this in scriptures ,because I could not find it

    #309017
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2012,04:53)
    wup

    Quote
    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wakeup.

    show me this in scriptures ,because I could not find it


    Terra.

    revelation 16:19. And the great city was devided into three parts,(jerusalem) AND THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL; AND GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBBRANCE BEFORE GOD,TO GIVE UNTO –HER–(bab the great; the woman)THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS–WRATH–.

    20. AND THE ISLANDS FLED AWAY,AND THE MOUNTAINS (kingdoms) ARE NOT FOUND.

    Babylon is no more; now the kingdom of Christ will be set up.

    wakeup.

    #309041
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2012,15:01)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2012,04:53)
    wup

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    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wakeup.

    show me this in scriptures ,because I could not find it


    Terra.

    revelation 16:19. And the great city was devided into three parts,(jerusalem) AND THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL; AND GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBBRANCE BEFORE GOD,TO GIVE UNTO –HER–(bab the great; the woman)THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS–WRATH–.

    20. AND THE ISLANDS FLED AWAY,AND THE MOUNTAINS (kingdoms) ARE NOT FOUND.

    Babylon is no more; now the kingdom of Christ will be set up.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Rev 16:19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.
    Rev 16:20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.
    Rev 16:21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

    this is not the end my friend

    Rev 17:7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns.
    Rev 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his

    this as to come yet ,and more and it is not the end still

    #309162
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2012,12:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2012,15:01)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2012,04:53)
    wup

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    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wakeup.

    show me this in scriptures ,because I could not find it


    Terra.

    revelation 16:19. And the great city was devided into three parts,(jerusalem) AND THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL; AND GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBBRANCE BEFORE GOD,TO GIVE UNTO –HER–(bab the great; the woman)THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS–WRATH–.

    20. AND THE ISLANDS FLED AWAY,AND THE MOUNTAINS (kingdoms) ARE NOT FOUND.

    Babylon is no more; now the kingdom of Christ will be set up.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Rev 16:19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.
    Rev 16:20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.
    Rev 16:21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

    this is not the end my friend

    Rev 17:7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns.
    Rev 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his

    this as to come yet ,and more and it is not the end still


    Terra.

    When the white horse with the rider that has many crowns and a sword in his mouth starts riding(rev19); babylon will be destroyed in ONE DAY.Rev18:8. And all is gone in one hour,rev18:10. That whole day is the day of destruction.

    wakeup.

    #309194
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2012,17:00)

    Quote (terraria @ Aug. 13 2012,12:30)

    Quote (Wake Up @ Aug. 13 2012,15:01)

    Quote (terraria @ Aug. 13 2012,04:53)
    wup

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    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wake up.

    show me this in scriptures ,because I could not find it


    Terra.

    revelation 16:19. And the great city was divided into three parts,(jerusalem) AND THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL; AND GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBBRANCE BEFORE GOD,TO GIVE UNTO –HER–(Bab the great; the woman)THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS–WRATH–.

    20. AND THE ISLANDS FLED AWAY,AND THE MOUNTAINS (kingdoms) ARE NOT FOUND.

    Babylon is no more; now the kingdom of Christ will be set up.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Rev 16:19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.
    Rev 16:20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.
    Rev 16:21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

    this is not the end my friend

    Rev 17:7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns.
    Rev 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his

    this as to come yet ,and more and it is not the end still


    Terra.

    When the white horse with the rider that has many crowns and a sword in his mouth starts riding(rev19); babylon will be destroyed in  ONE DAY.Rev18:8. And all is gone in one hour,rev18:10. That whole day is the day of destruction.

    wake up.


    wup

    I do not think that the new earth and the new heaven will be made then ,this is before the 1000 years reign of Christ ,and as I understand there is still a fight going on after ,

    #309255
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 14 2012,12:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2012,17:00)

    Quote (terraria @ Aug. 13 2012,12:30)

    Quote (Wake Up @ Aug. 13 2012,15:01)

    Quote (terraria @ Aug. 13 2012,04:53)
    wup

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    The same at the coming;Christ will destroy this system first and then start to build the new system,the 1000yr kingdom.

    After the 1000yrs the earth itself will be renewed.

    wake up.

    show me this in scriptures ,because I could not find it


    Terra.

    revelation 16:19. And the great city was divided into three parts,(jerusalem) AND THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL; AND GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBBRANCE BEFORE GOD,TO GIVE UNTO –HER–(Bab the great; the woman)THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS–WRATH–.

    20. AND THE ISLANDS FLED AWAY,AND THE MOUNTAINS (kingdoms) ARE NOT FOUND.

    Babylon is no more; now the kingdom of Christ will be set up.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Rev 16:19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.
    Rev 16:20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.
    Rev 16:21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

    this is not the end my friend

    Rev 17:7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns.
    Rev 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his

    this as to come yet ,and more and it is not the end still


    Terra.

    When the white horse with the rider that has many crowns and a sword in his mouth starts riding(rev19); babylon will be destroyed in  ONE DAY.Rev18:8. And all is gone in one hour,rev18:10. That whole day is the day of destruction.

    wake up.


    wup

    I do not think that the new earth and the new heaven will be made then ,this is before the 1000 years reign of Christ ,and as I understand there is still a fight going on after ,


    Terra.

    I never said that.
    The new heavens and the new earth will be after the second resurrection,but before this there is the war of gog and magog. This is when satan will be destroyed.

    The new heavens and the the new earth is the finish plan of God. Then Holy jerusalem will come down from heaven.
    And Gods sanctuary will be on earth. (finish).

    wakeup.

    #309264
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    Quote
    The new heavens and the new earth will be after the second resurrection,but before this there is the war of gog and magog. This is when satan will be destroyed.

    the war of gog and magog is at the end after the second resurrection and at the end of the ONE HOUR

    #309269
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 15 2012,03:08)
    wup

    Quote
    The new heavens and the new earth will be after the second resurrection,but before this there is the war of gog and magog. This is when satan will be destroyed.

    the war of gog and magog is at the end after the second resurrection and at the end of the ONE HOUR


    Terra.

    See rev.20:7. satan let looseafter the 1000yrs in prison and start the war of gog and magog.

    VERSE 8. he will deceive the nations again,and gather them to war; gog and magog.

    VERSE 9. satan will compass the camp of the saints.
    (camp of the saints is the the kingdom in israel).

    He will be destroyed; then comes the second white throne judgment,consisting of all populations past present and future.
    People of all religions.

    wakeup.

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