what truth do we know for sure ?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes your PURE HEART gospel is very new

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,19:56)

Hi T, Yes your PURE HEART gospel is very new

N

yes Nick, it started with Moses ;first commandment ,you should read it some time

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The commandments of Moses are of the Law.
The Law was not given to gentiles.

Trying to please God by obedience to the law is folly for gentiles

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,20:29)

Hi T, The commandments of Moses are of the Law. The Law was not given to gentiles. Trying to please God by obedience to the law is folly for gentiles

N

so Jesus lied wen he gives the two commandments to all and to follow,right ? I do not think SO.

the first commandment will never stopped to be in power ,if you think it is YOU ARE DECEIVING YOURSELF UNLESS YOU PRACTICE IT YOU NEVER WILL HAVE A PURE HEART ,IN OTHER WORDS HOLY HEART.

[terraricca]

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stop going after religion teachings ,men views ,but go after the truth of Gods word ,just has the apostles have written it ,do not ad or remove but understand ,and be free from all men teachings ,

[NickHassan]

Quote (terraricca @ April 05 2012,16:02)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,20:29) Hi T, The commandments of Moses are of the Law. The Law was not given to gentiles. Trying to please God by obedience to the law is folly for gentiles N so Jesus lied wen he gives the two commandments to all and to follow,right ? I do not think SO. the first commandment will never stopped to be in power ,if you think it is YOU ARE DECEIVING YOURSELF  UNLESS YOU PRACTICE IT YOU NEVER WILL HAVE A PURE HEART ,IN OTHER WORDS HOLY HEART.

Hi T,
Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel.
Much of what Jesus said to them was concerning their law.
Him discussing the law with them did not mean we gentiles came under the Law.

mt 19 16-22

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,14:03)

Quote (terraricca @ April 05 2012,16:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,20:29) Hi T, The commandments of Moses are of the Law. The Law was not given to gentiles. Trying to please God by obedience to the law is folly for gentiles N so Jesus lied wen he gives the two commandments to all and to follow,right ? I do not think SO. the first commandment will never stopped to be in power ,if you think it is YOU ARE DECEIVING YOURSELF  UNLESS YOU PRACTICE IT YOU NEVER WILL HAVE A PURE HEART ,IN OTHER WORDS HOLY HEART. Hi T, Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Much of what Jesus said to them was concerning their law. Him discussing the law with them did not mean we gentiles came under the Law. mt 19 16-22

N

yes you right ,but because of their voluntarily refusal and blindness to accept him as the son of God and the Christ of God ,it all as been extended to all men ,just has Peter said when he saw the holy spirit on Cornelius,

understand that there is no two ways to be holy only one way ,for all Jews first ,then Gentiles but all have to be pure and holy .to be saved

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
God makes us holy by the washing of water [1Peter3] and by sharing the HOLY Spirit with us.
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God[rom3]

[NickHassan]

Hi t,
Jesus came to save sinners, not the 'righteous'

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,14:18)

Hi T, God makes us holy by the washing of water [1Peter3] and by sharing the HOLY Spirit with us. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God[rom3]

N

this is only becomes true if you follow what he tells you to do if not you just stay the way you are ,a sinner ,

read the scriptures

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,14:19)

Hi t, Jesus came to save sinners, not the 'righteous'

N

wrong again,

Jesus sacrifice saves anyone that believes in him to be the one he says he his,now those who do not see the need to be saved ,they just stay the way they are and die in their sins ,

so if you believe that you are so righteous that you do not need to be saved by Christ ,well then stay the way you are and die in your sins,

[NickHassan]

Yes t,
Read your words.
You cannot make yourself pure hearted

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,16:53)

Yes t, Read your words. You cannot make yourself pure hearted

N

that is not what I said ;

ISA 1:18
“Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“ Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

how you ask ??;Isa 1:19 If you are willing and obedient,

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Yes forgiveness is in the washing in the name of Jesus Christ.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,17:22)

Hi, Yes forgiveness is in the washing in the name of Jesus Christ.

N

forgiveness,from God is in the sacrifice of his Son,the washing is done through our obedience to him

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes obedience is the key and the sacrifice can be applied to those who are.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,19:18)

Hi T, Yes obedience is the key and the sacrifice can be applied to those who are.

N

yes you are right ,but the only ones that are obedient are those who believe in the scriptures that God has provided to them and in the words of his son ,all others are rebels

[NickHassan]

Yes T,
And those who believe obey.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,19:32)

Yes T, And those who believe obey.

N

yes but only in a true heart ,other wise your faith (believe) is in vain

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
You require men to be perfect to be saved?
Whosoever wants to save his own life will lose it.

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