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and from every jew that i met none believe christ has even come yet, they are still awaiting his arrival.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
that regeneration or renewal is refering to when jesus comes and has waged its war with the worlds governments- armageddon that the renewal of gods kingdom over the earth not his regeneration of his physical body. if you read all and take all of it in not just a word or two you see that they will reside with christ ruling over the earth and those who did th ewill of god and are reaping those rewards eternal life. and its the kingdom that had been regenerated, his ruling of gods kingdom from heaven down to earth, his laws. his kindgom is the only way true peace and security can be found.Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
that regeneration or renewal is refering to when jesus comes and has waged its war with the worlds governments- armageddon that the renewal of gods kingdom over the earth not his regeneration of his physical body. if you read all and take all of it in not just a word or two you see that they will reside with christ ruling over the earth and those who did th ewill of god and are reaping those rewards eternal life. and its the kingdom that had been regenerated, his ruling of gods kingdom from heaven down to earth, his laws. his kindgom is the only way true peace and security can be found.
the glory of gods kingdom. which he sits upon the throne governing over the earth with those chosen to rule with him. that is what it says, you cant find a scripture and take one word and go off on it as proof, read the whole thing and waht it says and what its core meaning will spread evenly with what is being explained. no cut and past allowed thats what trinity people do.Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
Hi BD,
The regeneration is the millenial time when creation is restored.
Why would a nonbeliever offer to teach us?i mean it goes on and talks about gods glory the ruling over earth ( all of thinngs pertained to gods heavenly kingdom through the bible) not that christs regenerates his physical body that you think he went up to heaven with, nor does it go on and talk about himself at all. but that of what will be done.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2009,11:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
Hi BD,
The regeneration is the millenial time when creation is restored.
Why would a nonbeliever offer to teach us?
nick i enjoy your posts. adds a little freshness to the postQuote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:07) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
that regeneration or renewal is refering to when jesus comes and has waged its war with the worlds governments- armageddon that the renewal of gods kingdom over the earth not his regeneration of his physical body. if you read all and take all of it in not just a word or two you see that they will reside with christ ruling over the earth and those who did th ewill of god and are reaping those rewards eternal life. and its the kingdom that had been regenerated, his ruling of gods kingdom from heaven down to earth, his laws. his kindgom is the only way true peace and security can be found.
the glory of gods kingdom. which he sits upon the throne governing over the earth with those chosen to rule with him. that is what it says, you cant find a scripture and take one word and go off on it as proof, read the whole thing and waht it says and what its core meaning will spread evenly with what is being explained. no cut and past allowed thats what trinity people do.
You are not even discussing what I am discussing. We are talking about the regeneration of the BodyWhich also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12Jesus was flesh and bone when he was taken up.
The Body you say Jesus was raised up in had to be the Body it was "crucified" in
Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,13:05) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:07) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
that regeneration or renewal is refering to when jesus comes and has waged its war with the worlds governments- armageddon that the renewal of gods kingdom over the earth not his regeneration of his physical body. if you read all and take all of it in not just a word or two you see that they will reside with christ ruling over the earth and those who did th ewill of god and are reaping those rewards eternal life. and its the kingdom that had been regenerated, his ruling of gods kingdom from heaven down to earth, his laws. his kindgom is the only way true peace and security can be found.
the glory of gods kingdom. which he sits upon the throne governing over the earth with those chosen to rule with him. that is what it says, you cant find a scripture and take one word and go off on it as proof, read the whole thing and waht it says and what its core meaning will spread evenly with what is being explained. no cut and past allowed thats what trinity people do.
You are not even discussing what I am discussing. We are talking about the regeneration of the BodyWhich also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12Jesus was flesh and bone when he was taken up.
The Body you say Jesus was raised up in had to be the Body it was "crucified" in
that was my point you claimed that scriptures is talking about a regeneration of christs body and that your using that one word for your beleif that christ went to heaven with flesh and bones. your using one word in a scripture that is not talking about your perception. thats what you said not me, im just pointing out what the scripture is about you are using it to feed your own idea not what it says.Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,13:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,13:05) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:07) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
that regeneration or renewal is refering to when jesus comes and has waged its war with the worlds governments- armageddon that the renewal of gods kingdom over the earth not his regeneration of his physical body. if you read all and take all of it in not just a word or two you see that they will reside with christ ruling over the earth and those who did th ewill of god and are reaping those rewards eternal life. and its the kingdom that had been regenerated, his ruling of gods kingdom from heaven down to earth, his laws. his kindgom is the only way true peace and security can be found.
the glory of gods kingdom. which he sits upon the throne governing over the earth with those chosen to rule with him. that is what it says, you cant find a scripture and take one word and go off on it as proof, read the whole thing and waht it says and what its core meaning will spread evenly with what is being explained. no cut and past allowed thats what trinity people do.
You are not even discussing what I am discussing. We are talking about the regeneration of the BodyWhich also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12Jesus was flesh and bone when he was taken up.
The Body you say Jesus was raised up in had to be the Body it was "crucified" in
that was my point you claimed that scriptures is talking about a regeneration of christs body and that your using that one word for your beleif that christ went to heaven with flesh and bones. your using one word in a scripture that is not talking about your perception. thats what you said not me, im just pointing out what the scripture is about you are using it to feed your own idea not what it says.
i know what your talking about, you don't, thats why i said no cut and past you can't use a word in a scripture then apply it to your own beleive. that scripture which you refered to is not talking about christs regeneration of his body and thats what you implied! i read your posts and what it they said leading up into my own post. you claim that christ went to heaven with his earthly fesh and bones thats what you said, then you go on to say that verse is your proof and that look it says regeneration…. however thats not the message in the scripture at all. thus i replied to your cutting and pasting to fit your conclusion.BD you use scriptures which contects are not for certain things you discuss. you seem to use certain words then add them to your way instead of reading the whole passage and understand the verse the message whatever. you denounce christs ransom sacrifice and then go on to say that he only preached love yet that has noting to do with what his ransom sacrifice means or did for humankind from the will of his father. you cut and paste. use whole verses and the message it says and pertains, if it is taking about something else you cant just use aome of it and not all.
BD your right god and all the angels are spirt beings and jesus who is a spirit being also, decided that he's going to raise from the dead and live in heaven with flesh. he's in heaven right now with flesh and bones, maybe our hubble telescope or space shuttle will see him one day out there.
its funny when your are shown error in your way you still ignore and chose not to learn or listen even with it right in your face within the bible gods inspired words
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2009,13:14) Hi BD,
It was the body he was crucified in.
Did he arrive in heaven in it?
Do you have other information?Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,13:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,13:05) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:07) Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,11:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19:27-29Notice the word regeneration
I will show you more proof after I come back from the store.
that regeneration or renewal is refering to when jesus comes and has waged its war with the worlds governments- armageddon that the renewal of gods kingdom over the earth not his regeneration of his physical body. if you read all and take all of it in not just a word or two you see that they will reside with christ ruling over the earth and those who did th ewill of god and are reaping those rewards eternal life. and its the kingdom that had been regenerated, his ruling of gods kingdom from heaven down to earth, his laws. his kindgom is the only way true peace and security can be found.
the glory of gods kingdom. which he sits upon the throne governing over the earth with those chosen to rule with him. that is what it says, you cant find a scripture and take one word and go off on it as proof, read the whole thing and waht it says and what its core meaning will spread evenly with what is being explained. no cut and past allowed thats what trinity people do.
You are not even discussing what I am discussing. We are talking about the regeneration of the BodyWhich also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12Jesus was flesh and bone when he was taken up.
The Body you say Jesus was raised up in had to be the Body it was "crucified" in
that was my point you claimed that scriptures is talking about a regeneration of christs body and that your using that one word for your beleif that christ went to heaven with flesh and bones. your using one word in a scripture that is not talking about your perception. thats what you said not me, im just pointing out what the scripture is about you are using it to feed your own idea not what it says.
Was Jesus a Spirit afetr he was "risen" yes or no?Did his original body see corruption? Yes or No?
Hi BD,
He said he was not and we should believe him.
Who knows about the final fate of his body.I suspect that as we follow him, and when we are raised the new is put over the old the same would have happened for him[1Cor15, thess]
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2009,14:14) Hi BD,
He said he was not and we should believe him.
Who knows about the final fate of his body.I suspect that as we follow him, and when we are raised the new is put over the old the same would have happened for him[1Cor15, thess]
What do the scriptures say? Does it say his body will see corruption? Was his body like ours?
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