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Hi BD,
Corruption is of the flesh which does not inherit the kingdom.So the imperishable is put on over the perishable when men are raised in the first resurrection.[1Cor15]
We are not found naked[Ps49]but dressed in the proper clothing.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 24 2009,20:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,01:24) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2009,15:13) Hi BD,
Did you see Jesus when he entered heaven?
Paul was not a liar.
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1 Corinthians 15:49-51For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Corinthians 15:52-54First he says corruption CANNOT Incorruption and then he say corruption CAN put on incorruption
Which one of these are true?
I believe what it means is man in his sinful nature in his flesh and blood CANNOT automatically be inherient of incorruption by basically his own means. And that a process must incur and that process requires 'Elohim himself, only 'Elohim can reward corruption with incorruption, I hope you are following what I am trying to allude too here.
Oh, I agree with what your saying but Paul had no reason to double speak unless it be for his own reasons.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,04:43) Hi BD,
Corruption is of the flesh which does not inherit the kingdom.So the imperishable is put on over the perishable when men are raised in the first resurrection.[1Cor15]
We are not found naked[Ps49]but dressed in the proper clothing.
How is corrption just of the flesh when you know corrupt and unclen spirits exist.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,10:52) Hi BD,
The flesh of Jesus did not follow the ways of nature and become corrupt[Acts2.28]
Of Course Jesus didn't sin and his flesh and blood inherited the Kingdom of GodHi BD,
He did not sin by the grace of God but was tempted in all the ways we are.
How is your self perfectionism going?Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,15:42) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,04:43) Hi BD,
Corruption is of the flesh which does not inherit the kingdom.So the imperishable is put on over the perishable when men are raised in the first resurrection.[1Cor15]
We are not found naked[Ps49]but dressed in the proper clothing.
How is corrption just of the flesh when you know corrupt and unclen spirits exist.
I agree, corruption also incurs spiritual as well.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,15:46) Hi BD,
He did not sin by the grace of God but was tempted in all the ways we are.
How is your self perfectionism going?
Psalm 37:37 (King James Version)37Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Matthew 5:47-48Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 25 2009,16:19) umm jesus didn't ascend to gods kingdom in heaven with flesh and bones. waht are you talking about?
Luke 24:36-40 (King James Version)36And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Jesus ascended into heaven Flesh and Bones according to the scriptures.
Hi BD,
Nonsense.
This was before he had ascended.
Please be accurate when handling the words we cherishQuote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,17:05) Hi BD,
Nonsense.
This was before he had ascended.
Please be accurate when handling the words we cherish
It was after the Cross Nick and you know it, do you think he suddenly dematerialized when he rose up into the clouds? It is you who do not want to believe the scriptures as they are plainly written.Should I provide you with the verses of the risen Jesus eating fish and honeycomb?
Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?Bd jesus was a spirit creature living in heaven. he came back and showed himself to this apostles to prove it was him, how could he come back as his heavenly form, no man can see spirits. did jesus come to earth as a spirit or born of flesh? think about it. makes perfect sense, not hard to understand this. but then to say just because he made himself known by being flsh again in no way makes you want to beleive that he entered heaven from which he came as a fleshy being. ( one cannot see water as a dense solid form until frozen, but will go back to original form from how it started) 1 cor 15:45 . 1 peter 3:18 are good scriptures.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2009,20:08) Hi BD,
He died on the cross.
Then alive in the Spirit he rose from the dead in his incorrupt old body.
There are no scriptures that say he went into heaven in that perishable body so why do you teach it?
nick i have noticed that its not the misunderstanding of scriptures which happens, but the direct purpose of trying to teach it and spread those incorrect ideas is what BD is doing. for some reason BD is never learning always teaching never taking the scriptures that cry out to one what they are supposedly seeking and being shown. with exact words and foundation to the truth being sought after yet thy still continue to try to seek another reason anoter way using other scriptures not pertaining to the core pricipal that is being asked. those cannot find truth because the truth is not in there heart and they not seek it by faith.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2009,05:55) Hi P2a,
Do you think Jesus would resort to such trickery?
He is truth.
um no, thats why i said what i did, the scriptures tell all yet some do not want to accept no matter what. i was agreeing with you and laying out a point too. there is no trickery by christ or god just mans own trickery. yes he is the truth since he was doing gods will and the bible is the inspired words of him.Hi P2a,
the JWS believe Jesus swapped into various foprms after his resurrection.
But that denies the validity of what he was showing.He showed that the promise given about him that Peter spoke of in Acts 2 was fulfilled
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2009,07:32) Hi P2a,
the JWS believe Jesus swapped into various foprms after his resurrection.
But that denies the validity of what he was showing.He showed that the promise given about him that Peter spoke of in Acts 2 was fulfilled
what? please re phrase that. what does him coming back in various forms to prove to his disciples that is was him have to do with his what he was showing? showing what? not understanding please clearify, thanks
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