What most don't understand

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could.

Then why did Paul come?

Why was Paul needed after Jesus?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:40)

BOD , jesus is the pathway to god, thru jesus we need to go. we need to do god's will as recorded in hte holy scriptures. thts what it says. muhammad is not the way, jesus is. the quran is not the way the holy scriptures are. spiritaul works not man's fleshy actons sets us on the path to god. you can act and try all you want but if no spritual actions or truth is behind it you are not doing god's will

Jesus was obedient to God

I am being obedient to God

You say you cannot right now at the moment make that leap

Should I really take your counsel?

God has shown me the Truth of The Quran and blessed me greatly just as He has done when He showed me the Truth of the Bible.

I don't see these as two different scriptures because they are a progressive revelation just like the NT was a progressive revelation compared to the OT.

The world has not ended and Jesus has not returned so if God sends Gabriel to Muhammad that is what God wanted to do.

Perhaps Christianity as a whole did not bear fruit the way it was supposed to so Jesus says:

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Matthew 21:42-44

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
So you say.
But obedience to God is expressed by obedience to His anointed Son.

[peace2all]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,06:49)

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could. Then why did Paul come? Why was Paul needed after Jesus?

?
you do realize that the books written from paul are pretty much all the scriptures in complete that are used to show you your ways are wrong don't you.

from adam sin being given to all man to jesus doing his fathers will to teach and ultimaltey give his life for mankind to remove the sin dominion , and thus giving us a way to god again.

?
did paul write a book then say don't beleive in the holy scrirtures except for a few book but here have this new book, and say hey jesus is noone but a mere man a mere prophet and that only man's actions or fleshy works can save him and nothing else. ]

umm no he didn't

thats the quran and muhammad way

[NickHassan]

Hi BDS,
Islam saves nobody.
But it does blind those who accept it, to the real way.

[karmarie]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,07:43)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,06:49) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could. Then why did Paul come? Why was Paul needed after Jesus? ? you do realize that the books written from paul are pretty much all the scriptures in complete that are used to show you your ways are wrong don't you. from adam sin being given to all man to jesus doing his fathers will to teach and ultimaltey give his life for mankind to remove the sin dominion , and thus giving us a way to god again. ? did paul write a book then say don't beleive in the holy scrirtures except for a few book but here have this new book, and say hey jesus is noone but a mere man a mere prophet and that only man's actions or fleshy works can save him and nothing else. ] umm no he didn't thats the quran and muhammad way

Im sure BD has heard it all before peace2all

[peace2all]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 07 2009,08:56)

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,07:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,06:49) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could. Then why did Paul come? Why was Paul needed after Jesus? ? you do realize that the books written from paul are pretty much all the scriptures in complete that are used to show you your ways are wrong don't you. from adam sin being given to all man to jesus doing his fathers will to teach and ultimaltey give his life for mankind to remove the sin dominion , and thus giving us a way to god again. ? did paul write a book then say don't beleive in the holy scrirtures except for a few book but here have this new book, and say hey jesus is noone but a mere man a mere prophet and that only man's actions or fleshy works can save him and nothing else. ] umm no he didn't thats the quran and muhammad way Im sure BD has heard it all before peace2all

i'm sure thats what happens when your life revolves around calling god a lier and trying to disprove his words in the holy scriptures. his inspired words.

i mean doesn't it make sense… god used muhammad by giving him inspired words to be used to overshadow and disprove his first book

and make jesus out to be not god's son but a mere prophet and nothing more. not having any works done by him that affect us or that are meaning full.

that makes real sense..NOT

does it not show you how wrong that is.

jesus is just a prophet, he's important but not really
oh i got this new book thats better than the bible its called the quran – we adhere to all of it and live it, but we will use just a few books of the bible, the ones that work for us
and were going to use the quran and try to call god a lier and disprove the things in it.

how vile

the bible is there to teach and show the way god wants us to go. it was created to allow all men who are important to god to hve everlasting life and a chance to live under his kingdom. teh only way to true peace and security.

it offers answers to question, and when asked or attacked it shows the light, the truth.

you cannot change that ever.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,07:14)

Hi BD, So you say. But obedience to God is expressed by obedience to His anointed Son.

Exactly! But are you being obedient to Christ calling him lord when he told you to call God Lord?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,07:43)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,06:49) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could. Then why did Paul come? Why was Paul needed after Jesus? ? you do realize that the books written from paul are pretty much all the scriptures in complete that are used to show you your ways are wrong don't you. from adam sin being given to all man to jesus doing his fathers will to teach and ultimaltey give his life for mankind to remove the sin dominion , and thus giving us a way to god again. ? did paul write a book then say don't beleive in the holy scrirtures except for a few book but here have this new book, and say hey jesus is noone but a mere man a mere prophet and that only man's actions or fleshy works can save him and nothing else. ] umm no he didn't thats the quran and muhammad way

Is Jesus the seed of David according to the flesh?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,10:14)

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 07 2009,08:56) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,07:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,06:49) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could. Then why did Paul come? Why was Paul needed after Jesus? ? you do realize that the books written from paul are pretty much all the scriptures in complete that are used to show you your ways are wrong don't you. from adam sin being given to all man to jesus doing his fathers will to teach and ultimaltey give his life for mankind to remove the sin dominion , and thus giving us a way to god again. ? did paul write a book then say don't beleive in the holy scrirtures except for a few book but here have this new book, and say hey jesus is noone but a mere man a mere prophet and that only man's actions or fleshy works can save him and nothing else. ] umm no he didn't thats the quran and muhammad way Im sure BD has heard it all before peace2all   i'm sure thats what happens when your life revolves around calling god a lier and trying to disprove his words in the holy scriptures. his inspired words. i mean doesn't it make sense… god used muhammad by giving him inspired words to be used to overshadow and disprove his first book and make jesus out to be not god's son but a mere prophet and nothing more. not having any works done by him that affect us or that are meaning full. that makes real sense..NOT does it not show you how wrong that is. jesus is just a prophet, he's important but not really oh i got this new book thats better than the bible its called the quran – we adhere to all of it and live it, but we will use just a few books of the bible, the ones that work for us and were going to use the quran and try to call god a lier and disprove the things in it. how vile the bible is there to teach and show the way god wants us to go. it was created to allow all men who are important to god to hve everlasting life and a chance to live under his kingdom. teh only way to true peace and security. it offers answers to question, and when asked or attacked it shows the light, the truth. you cannot change that ever.

Why don't the Jews believe that Jesus is their Messiah considering they have all the first and original scriptures not ONE mentioning the name of JESUS that he would come but the NT says differently it says that the OT was not revealing all the information and so it is with the Quran.

You can be like the Jews and ignore what was meant to be or you can be like those disciples who recognized the works of God in Christ Jesus

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
If you met Jesus on the way to Emmaus would you call him a liar?

[peace2all]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,10:47)

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,10:14) Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 07 2009,08:56) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,07:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,06:49) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,06:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,04:25) thats why the path to everlasting life is narrow. i for one do not think i am on that path yet. i know what needs to be done and know that it is true for i have compared and checkmarked things in religions that are truely against gods will and singled out what teachings being taught are not gods. . however i find myself hesitant and not performing those things completely. i don't know why. its easy to see what needs to be done but to actually apply it and hold fast to it is the hardest step. i've been at this for only 4 months so i will continue to grow and pray that god's holy spirit will help direct me to do his will for this is what i seek, not just wanting to learn it. i think tht since i'm new and just finding out god's message in truth has to manifest and grow inside me and make me feel more confident and stable before i can just make that leap. Once you learn the truth you will be able to easily do the truth but you believe what you do not practice and by doing so according to “your” belief Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Now here you are on this site defending what you do not know and cannot even abide by. So after so much talking about the Blood of Christ if he had been crucified or killed you would truly be without salvation being that there would no longer be a sacrifice for the sins you now do after knowing about him dying for your sins. Repent to God because the Life is in the blood of the LIVING the holy scriptures are inspired from god not muhammad's teachings. were do you get this from. LOL like god needed your muhammad after sending his only begotten son christ jesus who was perfect and sin free and taught us all god's will and how to live life to gods will and gave a ransom sacrifice for all mankind to have the old sin law removed and thus jesus the new law gives us hope and a doorway to god's kingdom again. yeah god needed muhammad for what now?? he offers what now?? how can anything compare or equal JESUS. you are so lost. satans is in you good.i pray for god's holy spirit to help you seek the truth and turn away from your mistakes from having man's word be your guide. muslims hold up high to the quran and muhammad. plain and simple. only using some scriptures from the holy bible and demeaning jesus as mere man is wrong. the holy scriptures hebrew & greek scriptures are the only inpired words of god. always has been. they are not what god wills.. bible says that your works of flesh cannot lead to salvation ever. you believe just that. you believe jesus as mere human only a prophet, bible says otherwise. you rely on your imperfect fleshy ways as the way to salvation. it is thru spiritual faith and belief and spiritual works tht do, and a repentant life. you do not accept all that. man has never been able to do that that is why jesus who was perfect and sinless could. Then why did Paul come? Why was Paul needed after Jesus? ? you do realize that the books written from paul are pretty much all the scriptures in complete that are used to show you your ways are wrong don't you. from adam sin being given to all man to jesus doing his fathers will to teach and ultimaltey give his life for mankind to remove the sin dominion , and thus giving us a way to god again. ? did paul write a book then say don't beleive in the holy scrirtures except for a few book but here have this new book, and say hey jesus is noone but a mere man a mere prophet and that only man's actions or fleshy works can save him and nothing else. ] umm no he didn't thats the quran and muhammad way Im sure BD has heard it all before peace2all   i'm sure thats what happens when your life revolves around calling god a lier and trying to disprove his words in the holy scriptures. his inspired words. i mean doesn't it make sense… god used muhammad by giving him inspired words to be used to overshadow and disprove his first book and make jesus out to be not god's son but a mere prophet and nothing more. not having any works done by him that affect us or that are meaning full. that makes real sense..NOT does it not show you how wrong that is. jesus is just a prophet, he's important but not really oh i got this new book thats better than the bible its called the quran – we adhere to all of it and live it, but we will use just a few books of the bible, the ones that work for us and were going to use the quran and try to call god a lier and disprove the things in it. how vile the bible is there to teach and show the way god wants us to go. it was created to allow all men who are important to god to hve everlasting life and a chance to live under his kingdom. teh only way to true peace and security. it offers answers to question, and when asked or attacked it shows the light, the truth. you cannot change that ever. Why don't the Jews believe that Jesus is their Messiah considering they have all the first and original scriptures not ONE mentioning the name of JESUS that he would come but the NT says differently it says that the OT was not revealing all the information and so it is with the Quran. You can be like the Jews and ignore what was meant to be or you can be like those disciples who rec ognized the works of God in Christ Jesus

you prove nothing but try to disprove all. you use scriptures to back you up that are not in coralation to topic.

its your life thats at risk

praise your quran and your muhammad and shun and call god a lier and jesus as some guy basically.

this is you.

I got god i love god, i got muhammad praise muhammad praise the quran.

oh yeah theres this guy jesus he's ok, he just a prophet. not like hes god's son or any one important. not like my muhammad he;s so great his book and teaching is better the ntha tother guy and that other book.

oh yeah i got this great book its the quran its better than the bible cuz its all good, but you know theres this book it i guess is god's inspired words only some of its ok, just the ones that work with my book the quran .it so great all of it so i can't use all the bible its not as good.

oh mines from god too, wow, i'm supposed to disprove gods word with my teaching from the quran from god's other book the bible.

but i love god and worship only him but im ging to try to disprove his words from the bible and not accept jesus for what he his to all man and to god

the jews didn't want to do gods will thats why. they didn't want to be told otherwise and refused to accept him. they had him killed.

[peace2all]

you demean jesus christ. you put your quran over the bible and try to demean that too and you rely on your ways mans way or actions as to the only way to salvation.

this is not so, none of it.

[karmarie]

ok?

[karmarie]

Peace2 all, i think you have said your piece and if you go on too much 2 a person, your definatly not going to help them at all. The spirit of God is to love and not to judge and to feel compassion, never anger towards a person, and i pray that you may calm down and show BD some of that peace yeah?

[Proclaimer]

A rebuke is sometimes in order karmarie.
Should Jesus have calmed down at the temple when threw the tables over?

[karmarie]

hmmm but we are not Jesus

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,10:47)

Why don't the Jews believe that Jesus is their Messiah considering they have all the first and original scriptures not ONE mentioning the name of JESUS that he would come but the NT says differently it says that the OT was not revealing all the information and so it is with the Quran. You can be like the Jews and ignore what was meant to be or you can be like those disciples who recognized the works of God in Christ Jesus

You have missed the point. Grace has been given to the gentiles. To those who will bear fruit.

If the Jew becomes jealous, then good. The messiah is Jesus. People are allowed to not believe this. It is their choice.

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Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 07 2009,13:20)

hmmm but we are not Jesus

We represent him. He is the head, we are his body.

[karmarie]

Jesus taught to turn the other cheek, like Ghandi (a peacefull man himself) once said “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.?

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