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[Wakeup]

WHAT SORT OF A MAN WAS JESUS?

Any person is born by the will of the flesh.
Jesus was born by the will of God. NOT THE WILL OF THE FLESH.
Man has his own spirit of the flesh; the desires of the flesh.
And always desires worldly things.

And worldly things,are the material, and lust and greed,
and selfishness.The spirit of the world is evil continuously,
because the god of this world is satan.He is the king of babylon the great. His spirit, is the opposite to good.

Jesus also has his own spirit as any human.But that spirit is *DEAD*. He has no desires of the flesh at all. Zero.
Because the HS is in Him in full measure.He has life in Himself.The Word of God is a living Word.

(THE LORD IS WITH ME;I SHALL NOT WANT).

He can not sin.He is perfect in God's eyes.
A perfect image of his Father spiritually. His Holiness is equal,to his Father,but yet, in obedience to His Father,
He is worthy to be worshipped as God.Every knee shall bow before Him.(this glory given by His father).

He considers Himslef as a servant to his Father.
And also considers His Father as His God.
Such a humble man He was.Compared to lucifer the proud
and haughty, and full of spirit of rebellion in his heart.

Jesus desire is just to serve His Father to the full.
He does not even have a place to rest his head on.
Even foxes have holes to sleep in.

He does not desire to have any material goods.
He lived by the father only. His bread is His Father.
Our bread should be Jesus.

But the world's bread looks too good, and too tempting to the flesh.

I hope you have received some more understanding about the Lord Jesus we worship.

The Word was made flesh,with no lust of the material in Him. He came just to serve His Father.
The Word is a living Word of the father.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
He was tempted in every way we are.
He was made like us so he can sympathise with our problems and judge us.

No superman but a clean and anointed man we can follow

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
What applies to him also apples to his brothers
Jn1

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[kerwin]

Wakeup,

Born is feminine. Children are not born of men, they are begotten. The only way anyone can be born is by the will of God.

There was no male involved in the conception but Joseph was there for the birth and he had a will. There was a human involves as she is flesh and had a will. Jesus was born of blood.

John 1:12 goes with John 1:13 and if you are going to use that for evidence it follows you believe Jesus is God's child because he believed in the name of the Light.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,23:26)

Hi WU, He was tempted in every way we are. He was made like us so he can sympathise with our problems and judge us. No superman but a clean and anointed man we can follow

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except that he a 12 knew who his father was and it was not Joseph ,

so he was born in the flesh by the power of God ,

unless you were born this way YOU ARE NOTHING LIKE HIM

YOU BECOME A JOKER DO NOT BELITTLE THE SON OF GOD LITTLE MEN

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So not a man?

[Wakeup]

Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2014,05:29)

Wakeup, Born is feminine.  Children are not born of men,  they are begotten.  The only way anyone can be born is by the will of God. There was no male involved in the conception but Joseph was there for the birth and he had a will.  There was a human involves as she is flesh and had a will.   Jesus was born of blood. John 1:12 goes with John 1:13 and if you are going to use that for evidence it follows you believe Jesus is God's child because he believed in the name of the Light.

I said Jesus was born by the *WILL* of God.
His spiritual Moher is in rev 12.
God's woman; Heavenly Zion.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2014,04:27)

Hi WU, What applies to him also apples to his brothers Jn1 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Your are in contradiction,because of your misunderstanding.

John 1:12 ***But as many as received him***, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

JOHN WAS SPEAKING OF THEM THAT RECEIVED JESUS.
NOT SPEAKING OF JESUS.

BELOW IS SPEAKING OF JESUS.
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

YOU NEED YOUR SPIRITUAL EYES TO READ.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Contradiction?
You said Jesus was born by the will of God
So are his brothers
wakeup

John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2014,12:50)

Hi WU, Contradiction? You said Jesus was born by the will of God So are his brothers wakeup John 1:13   Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Why did you do such an evil thing,forging my statement?

Hi WU,
Contradiction?
You said Jesus was born by the will of God

***So are his brothers**.I DID NOT SAY THIS PART. (SO ARE HIS BROTHERS).YOU ARE DISHONEST.

Confusing scriptures,for own gain.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Were quote marks present?
You really need to check things out before blowing your top.

What has anyone to gain by tidying up your constant errors?

[kerwin]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 11 2014,07:12)

Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2014,05:29) Wakeup, Born is feminine.  Children are not born of men,  they are begotten.  The only way anyone can be born is by the will of God. There was no male involved in the conception but Joseph was there for the birth and he had a will.  There was a human involves as she is flesh and had a will.   Jesus was born of blood. John 1:12 goes with John 1:13 and if you are going to use that for evidence it follows you believe Jesus is God's child because he believed in the name of the Light. I said Jesus was born by the *WILL* of God. His spiritual Moher is in rev 12. God's woman; Heavenly Zion. wakeup.

Wakeup,

All are born by the will of God.

Jesus was conceived miraculously that is to say by the power of God. Luke 1:35 teaches us that.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU
You say
” Jesus also has his own spirit as any human.But that spirit is *DEAD*.”
A new concept of DEAD SPIRITS
any scriptures?

[NickHassan]

Hi WU
You say
“He is worthy to be worshipped as God.”

??
Of course he worshiped our God

[Wakeup]

Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2014,17:43)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 11 2014,07:12) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2014,05:29) Wakeup, Born is feminine.  Children are not born of men,  they are begotten.  The only way anyone can be born is by the will of God. There was no male involved in the conception but Joseph was there for the birth and he had a will.  There was a human involves as she is flesh and had a will.   Jesus was born of blood. John 1:12 goes with John 1:13 and if you are going to use that for evidence it follows you believe Jesus is God's child because he believed in the name of the Light. I said Jesus was born by the *WILL* of God. His spiritual Moher is in rev 12. God's woman; Heavenly Zion. wakeup. Wakeup, All are born by the will of God.   Jesus was conceived miraculously that is to say by the power of God. Luke 1:35 teaches us that.

Kerwin.

Jesus came from heaven,we are from earth.
Jesus was born by the will of His Father in heaven.
We are born by *the will* of our Mother and father.
Many unwanted children are not born by the will of God;
nor any children born.All by the will of the flesh.

If you read rev12 you will understand.
That was only about Jesus. Not any of us.

We also will later be born out of her.(mother Zion).
That would be at the resurrection;born spirit creatures.
*This is another topic*.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Of course you forgot that the brothers of Jesus are reborn in the same way

Jn1
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 11 2014,01:13)

WHAT SORT OF A MAN WAS JESUS? Any person is born by the will of the flesh. Jesus was born by the will of God. NOT THE WILL OF THE FLESH. Man has his own spirit of the flesh; the desires of the flesh. And always desires worldly things. And worldly things,are the material, and lust and greed, and selfishness.The spirit of the world is evil continuously, because the god of this world is satan.He is the king of babylon the great. His spirit, is the opposite to good. Jesus also has his own spirit as any human.But that spirit is *DEAD*. He has no desires of the flesh at all. Zero. Because the HS is in Him in full measure.He has life in Himself.The Word of God is a living Word. (THE LORD IS WITH ME;I SHALL NOT WANT). He can not sin.He is perfect in God's eyes. A perfect image of his Father spiritually. His Holiness is equal,to his Father,but yet, in obedience to His Father, He is worthy to be worshipped as God.Every knee shall bow before Him.(this glory given by His father). He considers Himslef as a servant to his Father. And also considers His Father as His God. Such a humble man He was.Compared to lucifer the proud and haughty, and full of spirit of rebellion in his heart. Jesus desire is just to serve His Father to the full. He does not even have a place to rest his head on. Even foxes have holes to sleep in. He does not desire to have any material goods. He lived by the father only. His bread is His Father. Our bread should be Jesus. But the world's bread looks too good, and too tempting to the flesh. I hope you have received some more understanding about the Lord Jesus we worship. The Word was made flesh,with no lust of the material in Him. He came just to serve His Father. The Word is a living Word of the father. wakeup.

To all.

Jesus also has his own spirit as any human.But that spirit is *DEAD*. He has no desires of the flesh at all. Zero.
Because the HS is in Him in full measure.He has life in Himself.The Word of God is a living Word.

Some can not understand what I am saying Here.

As soon as a baby comes out of the belly;he /she was given the breath of life. All creatures have that same Breath;breathing air.

As a person grows he/she developped a caracter and desires.
Each have their own desires. Some like music,some sports some studies,and some spiritual things.
*All that is the spirit of the flesh*. Each have different desires.
Mainly it is selfishness;and greed.

Jesus also had his own character and desires.
His desire is just *ONE THING*;and that is to serve His Father in heaven.
He has no other desires of the flesh: *that is non existent*.
He has no desires for any worldly things;just heavenly things.

Anyone genuine at heart will understand.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
You parade this new teaching again

“But that spirit is *DEAD*. “

No scripture but then you often do not rely on scripture seemingly believing you are a prophet yourself.

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Wakeup  believes “the gift of Prophecy” means
        not the ability to give prophecy,                    
…but rather the ability to INTERPRET Prophecy.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

“no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation”    (2 Peter 1:20)

And this verse (according to Wakeup) means that God's Prophets are genuine,
rather than a warning to beware of private interpretations of Prophecy.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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