What is or are the tribulation(s)

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2014,19:59)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2014,18:04)

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You know that you have not answered none of my two question or items,

So try again

If you can not understand that,than I feel really sad
for you. The coming tribulation will be to all the christians as a whole at the same time. Check your mail box and see if you have a sticker on it.
There are red coloured stickers;green;yellow;and blue.
If it is red. The soldiers will take you away and kill you.

wakeup.

what i would like you to do is to show a scripture ,that says what your comment says ,and so answers my question ,

so that all can see that what scriptures are saying is what you try so hard to make me see in scriptures ,

so please do this for us

February 2, 2014 at 6:53 pm#369035

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Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

GREAT TRIBULATION. NOT TRIBULATIONS.
ONE AND ONLY LAST TRIBULATION. NOR EVER SHALL BE
ANYMORE.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

THOSE DAYS: A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
WHICH WILL BE FOR 3/HALF YEARS.
NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED, IF NOT CUT SHORT.

THIS IS *NOT* SPEAKING OF ONES LIFETIME TRIBULATION.
BUT OF ALL CHRISTIANS. SOME THE OF BROTHERS WILL BE KILLED,FOR THE WORD OF GOD.
KILLED BY THE FALSE PROPHET'S MEN.

wakeup.

February 2, 2014 at 9:56 pm#369049

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2014,23:53)

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

GREAT TRIBULATION. NOT TRIBULATIONS.
ONE AND ONLY LAST TRIBULATION. NOR EVER SHALL BE
ANYMORE.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

THOSE DAYS: A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
WHICH WILL BE FOR 3/HALF YEARS.
NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED, IF NOT CUT SHORT.

THIS IS *NOT* SPEAKING OF ONES LIFETIME TRIBULATION.
BUT OF ALL CHRISTIANS. SOME THE OF BROTHERS WILL BE KILLED,FOR THE WORD OF GOD.
KILLED BY THE FALSE PROPHET'S MEN.

wakeup.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT MATH;24;21 IS NOT ADDRESSED TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL ONLY

NOW WHY OTHER VERSION SHOW “DISTRESS “INSTEAD OF TRIBULATION BASED ON THE ORIGINAL GREEK MMS.???

AND NOW IN MATH;24;22 WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CHRIST MENTION FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL ,AND THAT CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION IN 70 AD

COULD IT BE THAT THEIR WERE ELECT TO BE INSIDE THOSE WALLS

NOW YOUR 3.5 YEARS IS YOUR OWN MAKING

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THIS IS *NOT* SPEAKING OF ONES LIFETIME TRIBULATION.
BUT OF ALL CHRISTIANS. SOME THE OF BROTHERS WILL BE KILLED,FOR THE WORD OF GOD.
KILLED BY THE FALSE PROPHET'S MEN.

THIS AS BEEN GOING ON SINS ABEL ,YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF SCRIPTURES

February 3, 2014 at 12:48 pm#369075

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I know that many will be blinded.
But you are the most blinded.

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

THE COMING.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

THE POWERS OF HEAVEN SHALL BE SHAKEN.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

THE COMING IN CLOUDS. REV1.

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

THE HARVEST. THE RESURRECTION OF THE ELECT.

YOU WILL STILL NOT UNDERTSAND THOSE SCRIPTURES.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL.

wakeup.

February 3, 2014 at 1:46 pm#369076

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terraricca,Feb. wrote:

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NOW YOUR 3.5 YEARS IS YOUR OWN MAKING

Pierre,

Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished..

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not; then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

February 3, 2014 at 2:07 pm#369077

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Here's some more proof.

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread underfoot forty and two months.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Read on yourself, you will find that after the 2 witnesses are killed, Christ will come 3 1/2 days later. This will be the end of the great tribulation, the 7th trumpet.
So if you have never heard of the three and a half years, nor the great tribulation, and are completely baffled, then you have not been reading the scriptures, for this is just basic information for those weaned off the milk.

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

February 3, 2014 at 2:36 pm#369078

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terraricca,Feb. wrote:

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AND NOW IN MATH;24;22 WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CHRIST MENTION FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL ,AND THAT CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION IN 70 AD

COULD IT BE THAT THEIR WERE ELECT TO BE INSIDE THOSE WALLS

Could it be that you are badly mistaken, and don't realise that Christ is also talking about the White horse, the red horse, the black horse and the pale horse as mentioned in revelations?

Could it be that you have missed this verse;
Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

This is not just happening to Israel is it?

Do you think that maybe you have written off Matthew 24 as just the past, and forget that there are future prophecy's in there also?

The great tribulation to come is basic knowledge also. Everyone who reads the scriptures should know that there are hard times coming ahead. This is not just a physical war, but a spiritual one. Satan wants and will kill all the God fearing, to get them out of the way. His revenge.

This did not happen to my mother, or her mother, even my grandmothers mother, so this “great tribulation” happens at the end of the 3 1/2 years before Christ returns. Not everyone gets to see this, but some of us, the fortunate ones of the last generation, will get a chance to make our robes white by refusing the mark of the beast, and actually die for Christ because he told us to refuse it, and not die from some sickness with all that bitterness and hatred in our souls, running for the second resurrection which would be very scary with us wearing dirty robes. We should run for the first.

February 3, 2014 at 5:42 pm#369093

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terraricca,Feb. wrote:

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NOW YOUR 3.5 YEARS IS YOUR OWN MAKING

Pierre,

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not; then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

j42

I know those scriptures and what they mean;

but could you just ;give me your understanding on every verse you quote ;like when it occurred ,or when it will occur ,

February 4, 2014 at 1:06 pm#369131

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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 03 2014,18:46)

terraricca,Feb. wrote:

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NOW YOUR 3.5 YEARS IS YOUR OWN MAKING

Pierre,

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not; then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

j42

those scriptures are directly related to Jesus Christ coming and ministry and dead and resurrection and the Pentecost,

nothing to do for the end time of the world ;BUT MORE THE END TIME OF THE JEWS AS A NATION WITH GOD'S NAME ON IT ,

February 4, 2014 at 1:12 pm#369132

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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 03 2014,19:07)

Here's some more proof.

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread underfoot forty and two months.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

J42

Rev 1:19 “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.

TELL ME WHICH OF THE SCRIPTURES ARE ADDRESSING THE “NOW” AND THE ONES THAT ADDRESSES THE “LATER”

I AM CURIOUS

February 4, 2014 at 1:37 pm#369136

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This happened in 70ad?? At pantecost?? tell me.
Pantecost happen 70- yrs before 70ad.

wakeup.

February 4, 2014 at 2:05 pm#369147

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,18:37)

This happened in 70ad?? At pantecost?? tell me.
Pantecost happen 70- yrs before 70ad.

wakeup.

GOOD VERSE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME ;

1) HOW YOU WILL SEE CHRIST ON THE CLOUDS

2) WHAT IS THE SIGN OF THE SON OF GOD

3) WHAT IS THE POWER AND THE GREAT GLORY THAT COMES WITH HIM

February 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm#369154

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2014,00:05)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,18:37)

This happened in 70ad?? At pantecost?? tell me.
Pantecost happen 70- yrs before 70ad.

wakeup.

GOOD VERSE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME ;

1) HOW YOU WILL SEE CHRIST ON THE CLOUDS

2) WHAT IS THE SIGN OF THE SON OF GOD

3) WHAT IS THE POWER AND THE GREAT GLORY THAT COMES WITH HIM

The righteous will understand, but the wicked shall not understand.
For where the cacase is there the eagles will be gathered.

wakeup.

February 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm#369161

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,19:47)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2014,00:05)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,18:37)

This happened in 70ad?? At pantecost?? tell me.
Pantecost happen 70- yrs before 70ad.

wakeup.

GOOD VERSE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME ;

1) HOW YOU WILL SEE CHRIST ON THE CLOUDS

2) WHAT IS THE SIGN OF THE SON OF GOD

3) WHAT IS THE POWER AND THE GREAT GLORY THAT COMES WITH HIM

The righteous will understand, but the wicked shall not understand.
For where the cacase is there the eagles will be gathered.

wakeup.

THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS ,

SO YOU DON'T KNOW ,AND SO CREATE A DIVERSION ,

IF WE SHOW SCRIPTURES YOUR REJECT THEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT WRITTEN FROM THE KJV ;IF WE ASK YOU QUESTIONS YOU CAN NOT ANSWER ;

YOU ARE NOT USEFUL TO ANYONE

February 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm#369163

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terraricca,Feb. wrote:

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Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not; then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

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j42

those scriptures are directly related to Jesus Christ coming and ministry and dead and resurrection and the Pentecost.

nothing to do for the end time of the world ;BUT MORE THE END TIME OF THE JEWS AS A NATION WITH GOD'S NAME ON IT ,

Pierre,

How are those scriptures directly related to Jesus Christ's and his ministry?, the dead and resurrection, and pentecost? You tell me? This sounds like a jambalaya.

It's speaking of the end times Pierre. The end leading up to Christ's RETURN. I could explain it to you, but I would need to back it up with more scriptures, and my own words to show you that I understand, and even then you would still not understand because your interpretation comes from some other source.

So I have showed you the 3 1/2 years that you did not know about, so please, back up what you are claiming.

By the way, I answered in full detail this morning, with many many scriptures, then heaven net went off air and I lost everything. I am not doing it again for you to ridicule. Not today anyway. You have heaped up too many hot coals on your head already.

February 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm#369166

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2014,00:05)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,18:37)

This happened in 70ad?? At pantecost?? tell me.
Pantecost happen 70- yrs before 70ad.

wakeup.

GOOD VERSE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME ;

1) HOW YOU WILL SEE CHRIST ON THE CLOUDS

2) WHAT IS THE SIGN OF THE SON OF GOD

3) WHAT IS THE POWER AND THE GREAT GLORY THAT COMES WITH HIM

Pierre

You answer with a question? Why is that?

You are warning everyone here about us, but cannot give anything solid. If we were in court, and you presented your accusations with nothing to back up,
you would be thrown out of court.

So can you please answer Wakeup now.
He has given you scripture in Matthew 24, verse 30. How then can you claim that Matthew 24 is all about Jerusalem being destroyed in 70AD?
Please answer.
For you accused, he's defended, now you must address, not ignore.

February 4, 2014 at 3:52 pm#369173

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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 04 2014,20:23)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2014,00:05)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,18:37)

This happened in 70ad?? At pantecost?? tell me.
Pantecost happen 70- yrs before 70ad.

wakeup.

GOOD VERSE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME ;

1) HOW YOU WILL SEE CHRIST ON THE CLOUDS

2) WHAT IS THE SIGN OF THE SON OF GOD

3) WHAT IS THE POWER AND THE GREAT GLORY THAT COMES WITH HIM

Pierre

You answer with a question? Why is that?

You are warning everyone here about us, but cannot give anything solid. If we were in court, and you presented your accusations with nothing to back up,
you would be thrown out of court.

j42

if i ask you a question are bully me on to answer some one else s questions

if not answer my questions

February 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm#369179

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You are impotent in answering questions,
and you have proven that in your record.
Always answering a question with a question,
is your policy. This is proof that you know nothing.

wakeup.

February 4, 2014 at 4:31 pm#369182

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2014,01:52)

j42

if i ask you a question are bully me on to answer some one else s questions

if not answer my questions

Will someone please kick this man out of court,
and handcuff him too.

February 4, 2014 at 6:07 pm#369184