What is or are the tribulation(s)

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  • #371841
    terraricca
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    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    THIS SCRIPTURE ABOVE SHOW THAT THOSE WHO CAME “OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION ” AND WERE STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE HAD THERE ROBE WASHED AND MADE WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB (CHRIST) IT SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY COULD NOT DO ALL OF THAT IN A SINGLE EVENT IF IT WAS ONLY ONE EVENT THEN ONLY THOSE WHO ARE PART OF THAT EVENT WOULD THE ONES ,BUT THEN HOW COULD THEY HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES ?? BUT IT WAS DONE SO,THIS IS WHY THEY WHERE STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE ,SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND AS WHAT IT SAYS BY CHRIST AND PAUL THAT OUR TRIBULATIONS ARE HERE ON EARTH IN THIS WORLD THAT CHRIST SAYS TO OVER COME ,THAT HIS OUR PERSONAL TRIBULATION ,WHAT IS DIFFERENT IN TIME ,IN FORCE ,IN INTENSITY, FOR ANYONE THAT BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS SON

    2Ti 3:1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.
    2Ti 3:2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
    2Ti 3:3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
    2Ti 3:4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—
    2Ti 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. .Have nothing to do with them

    1)WHY DID PAUL TELL TIMOTHY NOT TO HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH THOSE PEOPLE ???

    2)PAUL KNEW TIMOTHY WAS STILL YOUNG AND WOULD SEE THE DEVELOPMENT TO WHAT TIME OF THE END ???

    we know that bad company corrupts good ones ,and so Paul remind Timothy to stay away from them ,

    2) the time of the end for the Jewish system of things was closing fast and hard times will be there for all true Godly believers tribulations that Christ himself foretold ,and we know that many died in the arena of Rome as spectacles to entertain the wicket Roman people , and finally came the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple including all the palaces ,by Titus in 70 AD

    from those days on the apostasy was waiting for the last of the apostle to die around 95/97 and it became then open to all ,for grasp and so it was ;until today ,but God's word the scriptures were preserved for us at all times ,even new discoveries like the dead sea scrolls found in 1947 and new light was back ,for those who love God be on their own live,and trust Jesus the son of God ,

    #372535
    terraricca
    Participant

    do not read the scriptures in a speed way you may miss the fine lines

    #387286
    terraricca
    Participant

    many are looking to show off their so called bible knowledge ,but when ask on it they stay mute ,beside the conventional knowledge they have no understanding

    they have themselves voted for fiction stories ,that is not supported by the scriptures ,but are very popular in the main stream religions sects

    do not be deceived by them stick to the scriptures

    #387315
    Wakeup
    Participant

    THESE SCRIPTURES ARE SPEAKING OF THE LAST DAYS,THE ONE LAST GREAT TRIBULATION. NOT OF THE TRIBULATIONS
    OF THE PAST.FOR THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE ALTAR OF GOD.(REV.6.);
    AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST; AND THE COMING

    Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

    THESE ARE TAKEN UP. (THE 144K).

    Revelation 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

    Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

    THESE ARE THEM SINGING IN HEAVEN.THE FIRST FRUITS.

    Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

    Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    THE FIRST FRUITS ARE PERFECT. (THE 144K).

    Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

    Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

    THE ANGEL REMINDING US TO PREACH THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL;BECAUSE THE JUDGEMENT IS COMING.

    Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

    ANOUNCING IN ADVANCE THAT BABYLON HAS FALLEN.

    Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    THIS IS A WARNING TO ALL THAT IS ABOUT TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST.

    Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

    THEM; WITH THE MARK WILL BE TORMENTED.

    Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    THE TRUE BELIEVERS THAT DIED *BEFORE* THE GREAT TRIBULATION.THEY WILL BE UNDER THE ALTAR OF GOD.
    WAITING.

    Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

    THEIR WORKS DO FOLLOW THEM; WILL BE ON RECORD.
    THEY ARE UNDER THE ALTAR OF GOD;AND GIVEN WHITE ROBES.

    BELOW IS THE REAPING;THE WHEAT FIRST;THEN THE TARES AT ARMAGEDDON.
    THE WINE PRESS OF THE WRATH OF GOD.
    Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

    Revelation 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

    Revelation 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

    Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

    Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

    Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

    Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

    DONT MIX THIS TRIBULATION WITH OTHER TRIBULATIONS.
    THIS TRIBULATION IS OF THE LAST DAYS.

    wakeup.

    #387320
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,08:01)
    THESE SCRIPTURES ARE SPEAKING OF THE LAST DAYS,THE ONE LAST GREAT TRIBULATION. NOT OF THE TRIBULATIONS
    OF THE PAST.FOR THEY ARE ALL UNDER THE ALTAR OF GOD.(REV.6.);
    AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST; AND THE COMING

     Revelation 14:1   And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

    THESE ARE TAKEN UP. (THE 144K).

     Revelation 14:2   And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

     Revelation 14:3   And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

    THESE ARE THEM SINGING IN HEAVEN.THE FIRST FRUITS.

     Revelation 14:4   These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

     Revelation 14:5   And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    THE FIRST FRUITS ARE PERFECT. (THE 144K).

     Revelation 14:6   And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

     Revelation 14:7   Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

    THE ANGEL REMINDING US TO PREACH THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL;BECAUSE THE JUDGEMENT IS COMING.  

     Revelation 14:8   And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

    ANOUNCING IN ADVANCE THAT BABYLON HAS FALLEN.

     Revelation 14:9   And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

     Revelation 14:10   The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    THIS IS A WARNING TO ALL THAT IS ABOUT TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST.

     Revelation 14:11   And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

    THEM; WITH THE MARK WILL BE TORMENTED.  

     Revelation 14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    THE TRUE BELIEVERS THAT DIED *BEFORE* THE GREAT TRIBULATION.THEY WILL BE UNDER THE ALTAR OF GOD.
    WAITING.

     Revelation 14:13   And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

    THEIR WORKS DO FOLLOW THEM; WILL BE ON RECORD.
    THEY ARE UNDER THE ALTAR OF GOD;AND GIVEN WHITE ROBES.

    BELOW IS THE REAPING;THE WHEAT FIRST;THEN THE TARES AT ARMAGEDDON.
    THE WINE PRESS OF THE WRATH OF GOD.
     Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

     Revelation 14:15   And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

     Revelation 14:16   And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

     Revelation 14:17   And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

     Revelation 14:18   And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

     Revelation 14:19   And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

     Revelation 14:20   And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

    DONT MIX THIS TRIBULATION WITH OTHER TRIBULATIONS.
    THIS TRIBULATION IS OF THE LAST DAYS.

    wakeup.


    wup

    you are mixing tribulation with the wrath of God what is coming at the time of the end (all things end up with the wrath of God)

    the flood,Sodom,many nations , and at the end of this age

    #387346
    Wakeup
    Participant

    The seven trumpets are the wrath of God.
    The sixth trumpet is the great war.
    The seventh trumpet is armageddon,just for one day.
    The great tribulation is for 3/half years, before the seventh trumpet.(coming).

    wakeup.

    #387347
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,08:51)
    The seven trumpets are the wrath of God.
    The sixth trumpet is the great war.
    The seventh trumpet is armageddon,just for one day.
    The great tribulation is for 3/half years, before the seventh trumpet.(coming).

    wakeup.


    WUP

    TRIBULATIONS ARE THE PROBLEMS WE AS BELIEVERS ENCOUNTER THROUGHOUT OUR LIVES ,

    THE WRATH OF GOD IS THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED ONES ,WHAT ALSO GOES ON AT THE SAME TIME IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ,

    THE FINAL WRATH OF GOD WILL BE AT THE END CALLED ARMAGEDDON

    #387359
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2014,13:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,08:51)
    The seven trumpets are the wrath of God.
    The sixth trumpet is the great war.
    The seventh trumpet is armageddon,just for one day.
    The great tribulation is for 3/half years, before the seventh trumpet.(coming).

    wakeup.


    WUP

    TRIBULATIONS ARE THE PROBLEMS WE AS BELIEVERS ENCOUNTER THROUGHOUT OUR LIVES ,

    THE WRATH OF GOD IS THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED ONES ,WHAT ALSO GOES ON AT THE SAME TIME IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ,

    THE FINAL WRATH OF GOD WILL BE AT THE END CALLED ARMAGEDDON


    We are about the last generation tribulation.
    The great tribulation,just 3/half years before the 7th trumpet,
    which is the coming.
    6 trumpets to sound before the 7th.

    The dead in Christ *before* this last tribulation; have their works put on record. They are the ones under the altar of God. Given white robes.

    The ones that have made it through the last tribulation
    also will be given white robes.
    The multitudes and multitudes are of both;
    of the dead *before* the great tribulaton and *after* the great tribulation. There will be some, still alive.
    They will be changed in a wink of an eye.

    wakeup.

    #387496
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,09:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2014,13:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,08:51)
    The seven trumpets are the wrath of God.
    The sixth trumpet is the great war.
    The seventh trumpet is armageddon,just for one day.
    The great tribulation is for 3/half years, before the seventh trumpet.(coming).

    wakeup.


    WUP

    TRIBULATIONS ARE THE PROBLEMS WE AS BELIEVERS ENCOUNTER THROUGHOUT OUR LIVES ,

    THE WRATH OF GOD IS THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED ONES ,WHAT ALSO GOES ON AT THE SAME TIME IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ,

    THE FINAL WRATH OF GOD WILL BE AT THE END CALLED ARMAGEDDON


    We are about the last generation tribulation.
    The great tribulation,just 3/half years before the 7th trumpet,
    which is the coming.
    6 trumpets to sound before the 7th.

    The dead in Christ *before* this last tribulation; have their works put on record. They are the ones under the altar of God. Given white robes.

    The ones that have made it through the last tribulation
    also will be given white robes.
    The multitudes and multitudes are of both;
    of the dead *before* the great tribulaton and *after* the great tribulation. There will be some, still alive.
    They will be changed in a wink of an eye.

    wakeup.


    wup

    it could be or not be that we are the last generation ,but the is not what is important ,

    loving God and his son is more important

    #387500
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,11:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,09:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2014,13:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,08:51)
    The seven trumpets are the wrath of God.
    The sixth trumpet is the great war.
    The seventh trumpet is armageddon,just for one day.
    The great tribulation is for 3/half years, before the seventh trumpet.(coming).

    wakeup.


    WUP

    TRIBULATIONS ARE THE PROBLEMS WE AS BELIEVERS ENCOUNTER THROUGHOUT OUR LIVES ,

    THE WRATH OF GOD IS THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED ONES ,WHAT ALSO GOES ON AT THE SAME TIME IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ,

    THE FINAL WRATH OF GOD WILL BE AT THE END CALLED ARMAGEDDON


    We are about the last generation tribulation.
    The great tribulation,just 3/half years before the 7th trumpet,
    which is the coming.
    6 trumpets to sound before the 7th.

    The dead in Christ *before* this last tribulation; have their works put on record. They are the ones under the altar of God. Given white robes.

    The ones that have made it through the last tribulation
    also will be given white robes.
    The multitudes and multitudes are of both;
    of the dead *before* the great tribulaton and *after* the great tribulation. There will be some, still alive.
    They will be changed in a wink of an eye.

    wakeup.


    wup

    it could be or not be that we are the last generation ,but the is not what is important ,

    loving God and his son is more important


    T.

    Many true christians have died yesterday,and more will die tomorrow.

    They all will be under the altar of God waiting.
    True christians that are alive during the persecution days
    of the false prophet;some will be killed; some will survive.
    they all will be given white robes;and all will gather as one.

    wakeup.

    #387506
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    What is a true christian?
    One who enters through the gate and does not try to climb in some other way?

    #387520
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,07:51)
    Hi WU,
    What is a true christian?
    One who enters through the gate and does not try to climb in some other way?


    N

    a true christian or believer is someone that as believe the scriptures that as believe the words that have been written by the apostles and left as message for all that would follow them ,

    those that have commit themselves to God by submitting to him(God) their strength , heart,body,mind,and soul,

    anyone out of any of those five items as mist to listen to the message of scriptures

    #387522
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    So just knowing is enough?
    Your work will save you?
    Demons also believe

    #387573
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,08:22)
    Hi T,
    So just knowing is enough?
    Your work will save you?
    Demons also believe


    NICK

    Quote
    Demons also believe

    :D :D yeah ;but are they ;those that have commit themselves to God by submitting to him(God) their strength , heart,body,mind,and soul, ???

    see the demons know because they see him and so know who is God and his son ;but thats where it stops ,

    so no Nick you are wrong to believe that i would support your thinking in your quote ;

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