What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh?

[Ed J]

(1)I agree the KJV is a better view of what you should have understood ;was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
(2)HE WAS MADE IN THE FLESH ” BUT THIS DOES NOT SAY THAT HE WAS ALWAYS IN THE FLESH ;

Hi Pierre,

1) Thanks for agreeing that the “AKJV Bible” is accurate to what the original texts say!
2) Correct! – Micah 5:2 says (in essence) that “the spirit of Christ” came from everlasting to Bethlehem.

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God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

IN ESSENCE is good enough for a bible scholar?

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ED

i did not say that the KJUV is a better version ,what said is that that verse was a better and more accurate version ,

see you jump to conclusion ,not good ,

and no your # 2 is not found in scriptures ,for if you going to mix your #1 with your # 2 then they don’t fit

for you cannot mix a prophecy and reality for the first precedes the second and so the scripture that says “HE WAS MADE FLESH ” COMES SECOND and so is reality and no longer prophecy ,

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

I am attempting to follow your reason. Human beings are both made of flesh and made flesh because earth was flesh.

Your point that your Jesus shortchanged into a human being at the zygote state of life and implanted himself in Mary’s womb. In short he was never human because he did not have a human soul or spirit.

The flaw in your reasoning is that since your Jesus is not human he is not qualified to save humanity.

Hebrews 2:14New English Translation (NET Bible)

14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, he likewise shared in their humanity, so that through death he could destroy the one who holds the power of death (that is, the devil),

Hebrews 2:14Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

I stated Paul was made of flesh and later he was made of Spirit to reveal that being made of flesh is separate than being made of Spirit.

The outward man is made of flesh and the inward man is of Spirit for the purpose of my example.

The real Jesus also has the same outward and inward man.

That is why Nick states the inward Jesus, Spiritual Jesus, came in the flesh.

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Kerwin

Your point that your Jesus shortchanged into a human being at the zygote state of life and implanted himself in Mary’s womb. In short he was never human because he did not have a human soul or spirit.
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first i never said ;that he implanted himself for scriptures say God did ;

so please correct your view ;

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

it seem you do not understand this scripture for it says ; he(jesus) also himself likewise took part of the sameyou see Jesus was not human but came down and so took part of the same ;flesh that is ,

the chosen ones his future brothers will join him in heaven and be with him ;but he was in heaven and came down so that they would be having been within the same experience ;that his the reason for he called them brothers ,

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Kerwin you say;The outward man is made of flesh and the inward man is of Spirit for the purpose of my example.
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you mixing reality with figuratives Paul was talking with reality ;you went on to apply a figurative vue to it ,what is a false application ,

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

So Jesus was not a man?

acts 2.22

1 tim 2.5

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

I am sorry if I got the details of you doctrine wrong but it still disagrees with Scripture.

As Nick points out your Jesus is not the one revealed in Scripture is a human being and not just one in his outward form. The flesh is the outward human. The soul and spirit are the inward man for they are not physical. The Jesus testified in Scripture is human in his soul, spirit, and flesh but his spirit has been made by the Spirit of God within him. His human spirit is from above for it has been made in the image of God.

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Kerwin

I don’t care for what Nick says for what he says are his opinion and he does not understand scriptures ,and you have a hard time as well ,

if you only could read what the scriptures says we could build on it ,but you don’t believe the scriptures then we have nothing to build on ,

the scriptures says ”

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and for him.

Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature/form of God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Phil 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father

read those scriptures what does it say about jesus ;and please don’t add anything like opinions ;just read it and understand it no more ;

then tell me what they tell you

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

So because you do not believe in Acts despite being led by the Spirit you can ignore Acts 2.22 and 1 tim 2.5?

[terraricca]

Hi N

I will get back to those verses later ,I do believe in them fervently

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

What about your rejection of the water baptisms in the book of acts?

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and for him.

I see you neither believe John or Scripture for all things were ages were framed by the word that comes out of God’s mouth and nothing was created that has been created without God’s word. God’s word became flesh and dwelt among us.

If you believe John’s words then you would know flesh has been united with the word of God and Paul and John both testified of it but you reject that teaching and create your own.

Jesus was not changed to flesh but instead came in the flesh.

[terraricca]

Kerwin

I see you neither believe John or Scripture for all things were ages were framed by the word that comes out of God’s mouth and nothing was created that has been created without God’s word. God’s word became flesh and dwelt among us.

If you believe John’s words then you would know flesh has been united with the word of God and Paul and John both testified of it but you reject that teaching and create your own.

Jesus was not changed to flesh but instead came in the flesh.
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I ask you ,I beg you to read both Paul scriptures that I have shown you ;and to read them without adding anything and tell me what they say ;

now if you cannot do that ,tell me why you cannot ?

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

I am not the one adding to Scripture, you are.

You assume that Colossians 1 is speaking of Jesus alone when instead it is speaking of the Son of God, which existed before it was united with Jesus Christ. The Son of God is the word that comes out of God’s mouth and by which he created all that is created. It is spoken of in Genesis 1 with the words “and God said…”

Any Jew should know it, as should the Gentiles taught by Jews, but you were not taught be either the 120 Jews or by those they taught. You were instead taught by a long line of those that either abandoned the truth or never knew it.

My teaching used the word that is testified to be there in the beginning while yours falsely inserts Jesus, who was not conceived until thousands of years later.

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,

Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

It speaks of the Spirit.

 

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

Philippians 2 speaks of Jesus existing in the form of God, which means he united with the Word.

The result is that he does not see being equal to God as loot to be grasped.

Instead he choose to lower himself and become a servant to all.

Having been made in the likeness of humanity.

[terraricca]

Kerwin

ok, I can see you don’t care of what is written in scriptures you just want to interpret all the scriptures as you please ,

believe what you want I am gone for a while ,you guys know better than the scriptures it self ,take care

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Yes it can be frustrating.

You think you can fit it all in a neat little box but the Spirit bursts forth and demands to be free of our concepts.

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

It is not that hard to understand.

Why do you reject it?

[kerwin]

Nick,

Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

It speaks of the Spirit.

It is hard to tell but I give more weight to it speaking of the soul within human flesh.

Since it is the truth yours works as well and God could well mean both of them.

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