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- May 6, 2016 at 8:25 am#813600terrariccaParticipant
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you still cannot understand a thing ;what difference does it make Mary :being a surrogate mother to the son of God or not ;would that change the seed of David ?NO
does not the scriptures works through faith and not through the blood stream line ,
is God not the God of Abraham/Isaac/and Jacob ? and yet they are all dead ; and Jesus says that God his not the God of the death , think
May 6, 2016 at 8:53 am#813608NickHassanParticipantHi t,
They are alive in the Spirit.
The Spirit never leaves or forsakes us.
May 6, 2016 at 9:44 am#813616kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
It would change the “made of the Seed of David” into a lie.
Do you believe it is?
May 6, 2016 at 9:58 am#813623terrariccaParticipantKerwin
you really don’t get it ; the Christ suppose to be the son of David ? right according to the scriptures how could that be ? there is 900 years difference in between those two
May 6, 2016 at 10:12 am#813633NickHassanParticipantHi t,
Jesus is a son of Adam(man)
May 6, 2016 at 10:14 am#813634NickHassanParticipantHi t,
Lk 3.38
May 6, 2016 at 10:27 am#813639kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
Nick is correct, all son means is descendant. We capitalize it to show he is the chief decendant of David.
May 6, 2016 at 11:39 am#813646terrariccaParticipantK/N
Lk 3:38 the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.Nick you say;Jesus is a son of Adam(man) and quoted the scripture I showed here ,
you are confused for it does not say that for it says clearly ;the son of Seth, the son of Adam, not Jesus ;
you make things up as you go hmmm not wise
May 6, 2016 at 1:12 pm#813665kerwinParticipantTerraricca,
I am glad you attempted to test what you heard but perhaps you lack information.
Jesus used it in the sense of descendant here.
Luke 19:9Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
May 6, 2016 at 1:35 pm#813669terrariccaParticipantKerwin
If i lack info you should look at what you try to make of it because ot your lack of info
why are you changing what we discussing ,your scripture does not show what we talk about ,try again
May 6, 2016 at 1:52 pm#813672NickHassanParticipantHi t,
So you did not try to find who was the subject of the scripture?
Let us help you.
lk 3.23
When he began his ministry, Jesus himself was about 30 years old, being as was supposed, the son of Joseph…
May 6, 2016 at 2:21 pm#813685terrariccaParticipantHi N
Lk 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
the son of Heli,…………………………..
yes he was the adoptive son of Joseph , and what is your point with this ? this shows that Jesus did not have a human father ,right ?
May 6, 2016 at 2:25 pm#813688NickHassanParticipantHi t,
We know he was conceived of the Holy Spirit.
May 6, 2016 at 2:59 pm#813691terrariccaParticipantHi N
the holy spirit does not conceive children but foretell their coming
but Jesus was conceived by the power of God ,or put in Mary’s womb to receive the cover of flesh ,
but Mary had nothing to do with the son of God in her ,just cover it naturally with flesh ,she was a surrogate mother to the son of God ,
that was created before her ,similar to what John said Jn 1:15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’
Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
all those scriptures are talking about Jesus the christ and no one else and definitely not a spirit hologram like you want us to believe
May 6, 2016 at 4:36 pm#813693kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
The Holy Spirit was there at creation and it covered the earth for it hovered over it. God speaks his word the Spirit movers and all things are created that have been created.
May 6, 2016 at 4:43 pm#813694kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
When you deny that Jesus call his fellow Jew a son Abraham by faith as well as by humanity I see no reason to argue. It would be like arguing that someone whom claimed water is dry.
You already know your conclusions but you hold to them because they have become dear to you. There is a point when denial is no longer healthy.
May 7, 2016 at 12:41 am#813696terrariccaParticipantKerwin
Terrarica,
The Holy Spirit was there at creation and it covered the earth for it hovered over it. God speaks his word the Spirit movers and all things are created that have been created.
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is this what it says ?Ge 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters AKJV
so you assumed that thiS spirit is THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH ?
May 7, 2016 at 12:46 am#813697terrariccaParticipantkERWIN
Terrarica,
When you deny that Jesus call his fellow Jew a son Abraham by faith as well as by humanity I see no reason to argue. It would be like arguing that someone whom claimed water is dry.
You already know your conclusions but you hold to them because they have become dear to you. There is a point when denial is no longer healthy.
=============================================================================the problem with your understanding is that you establish certain things and then generalized them into a key understanding and apply it to all you read ,this make you mix apples and oranges as the same thing
May 9, 2016 at 6:44 am#813768NickHassanParticipantHi t,
Own your own dogmas.
They bear no relationship to what is written.
Make sure the light in you is not darkness.
May 9, 2016 at 7:14 am#813770kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
so you assumed that thiS spirit is THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH ?
I do not assume it; I know it because Scripture tells us that God’s spirit is the Spirit of Truth.
John 15:26-27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 and ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
After all the words “Spirit of God” is a paraphrase of the words “Spirit that precedes from God”.
There is but one Spirit in the unity of the Spirit.
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