What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

Can you expound this for us?

 

[terraricca]

N

look at revelation 1 ………………. into the letters to the 7 churches

i would explain it to you but it would take to much to write down ,and you would not agree with me even if i show it to you with scriptures ,

look what we going through now between us ,and yet you cannot prove me wrong in what i say ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

So does it mean a grown anointed man existed in heaven?

Does it mean he was never conceived but clothed in flesh?

Does it mean he was not anointed at the Jordan?

Does it mean he never was as an embryo, child and adolescent?

Does it mean he never was a man at all?

 

Why does the writer use IS instead of WAS?

 

[terraricca]

N

Hi T,

1)So does it mean a grown anointed man existed in heaven?

2)Does it mean he was never conceived but clothed in flesh?

3)Does it mean he was not anointed at the Jordan?

4)Does it mean he never was as an embryo, child and adolescent?

5)Does it mean he never was a man at all?

6)Why does the writer use IS instead of WAS?
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1 a) NO,

2a) yes

3a) NO

4a) NO

5a)NO /yes

6a) I do not know where this come from

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Thank you.

So you say he was not conceived.

Lk 1.31

Mt  1.20

You are not sure if he is a man

Acts 2.22

1Tim 2.5

You need to take in these scriptural truths.

So look again at the verse and expound it.

 

 

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

So what is becoming plain is that the verse is not speaking of flesh.

It speaks of the Spirit that is one with the spiritual man.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Heb 5.7

In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety.

Now we no longer speak of Christ according to the flesh

2Cor 5.16

Now the Lord is the Spirit.

2Cor 3.17

 

The Spirit is eternal

[terraricca]

N

Hi T,

Thank you.

So you say he was not conceived.

Lk 1.31
Lk 1:31 You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.
Mt 1.20
Mt 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
You are not sure if he is a man

Acts 2.22

1Tim 2.5

You need to take in these scriptural truths.

So look again at the verse and expound it.

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your thinking is based on what you believe to be the truth ; and that is Jesus the christ did not exist before his coming to the womb of Mary, right ? Yes

I do not believe that for and because Col;1;15-21 and Philp 2;6-,,,,, and John 1;14 and many others

and that’s were we stand ;one of us is not true in scriptures ,I believe has it is written but you interpret them as you go into it ;so ?

if Jesus never existed before and was a full man made by man for it takes a male and female to have a baby then you are right ;

but if I am right then Jesus was the Word of God and lived in heaven where he return as scriptures says ,so

it boil down to you to prove me wrong if you want I don’t beg for it ,for I know the answers and your interpretations ,

so it is as it his now just like Jesus said it to Nicodemus

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

Have you learned the Trinitarians’ claim that Jesus was there at the creation of the world is wrong?

All that were there was God, his Spirit, and his word. It is those three that were present. According to John they are the same three that bear witness in heaven. They are united. (1 John 5:7) Another verse Trinitarians force Jesus into in order to support their teaching. Instead John actually means the word that comes out of God’s mouth.

[terraricca]

N

2Cor 3.17

2Co 3:14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
2Co 3:15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
2Co 3:16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
2Co 3:18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

Rev 19:10 At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy

Lk 24:25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
Lk 24:26 Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?”
Lk 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

Jesus in the above scripture give the spirit of the christ and the truth that has to be fulfilled to be the anointed one OF GOD

in these scriptures the “spirit” word means the prophecies that where written many thousands of years before his coming , but it was a being that would come from heaven ;and that being could change his mind at any time he wanted

[terraricca]

N

You are not sure if he is a man
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a man to all consideration is a person that has been conceived through a copulation of a man and a women , ;in this case this is not so ;

Lk 1:46 And Mary said:
“My soul glorifies the Lord
Lk 1:47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
Lk 1:48 for he has been mindful
of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
Lk 1:49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me—
holy is his name.
Lk 1:50 His mercy extends to those who fear him,
from generation to generation.
Lk 1:51 He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;

in this song Mary knows that she his not taking part in the being that becomes a part of her womb for it is her soul that his used to the glory of God ,and so that leave her out of it ,but she knows that God bring into her a being that he’s not a ordinary human but will be called son of man but also son of God and for good reasons

Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

So you make your own definition of a man.

Beleving scripture would be better.

 

[terraricca]

N

NO,you make your own for you change the scriptures to justify your believe ,and so break the scriptures in many places

John the baptist was a special man ,why didn’t God use a man like him ?

[terraricca]

Kerwin

Have you learned the Trinitarians’ claim that Jesus was there at the creation of the world is wrong?
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how many times do I have to tell you I don’t care about all those believes ;I only go as per the scriptures ,nothing else ;

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Because Jesus was the chosen prophesied human vessel.

Did you think it was because he was not really a man in your view?

[terraricca]

N

but so was John the Baptist ,you just can’t stand the scriptures truth ,and stick to your false views like the pharisees did and you know what Jesus the Christ says to them ,

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

Yes both were CONCEIVED.

Jesus chosen to be the messiah and John chosen to go before him.

[terraricca]

N

even if Mary was a surrogate mother she would conceive the infant ,like it is said in scriptures ;no man can save another for the price is to high for him ,

sad you don’t like the scriptures

[NickHassan]

Hi t,

No Mary was his mother.

Read scripture.

[terraricca]

N

the popular view was that Joseph was his father .

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