What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh?

[Ed J]

Please answer my question Nick, as I’m not in favor of endlessly arguing over misconceptions, OK?

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Micah 5.2

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall HE come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;

JESUS CHRIST WILL COME FORTH FROM BETHLEHEM
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

INDEED -JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER

[We no longer speak of Christ according to the flesh]

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,

Does that mean the man Jesus will be born anointed?

No.

Only those who do not understand prophecy would think so.

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,
.
Micah 5.2
.
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
.
JESUS CHRIST WILL COME FORTH FROM BETHLEHEM
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)
.
INDEED -JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER
.
[We no longer speak of Christ according to the flesh]

Hi Nick,

But isn’t you that preaches that Jesus was not always “The Christ”?
How do you account for this discrepancy in your doctrine?

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God bless
Ed J

[terraricca]

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Pierre has convinced himself that is true, so no matter how much Scripture
you show him to the contrary, he will not believe you it is not true.
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you say that Christ never came down from heaven ,for you say it is his spirit ;this is not said anywhere in scriptures you guys say that ,

and because you don’t believe that truly Jesus came down from heaven to be covered by flesh your sins will not be forgiven for you have not believe in the only son of God ,

more you say it was that spirit of Christ that was created by God and so not a being ,in a way an illusion of something to use later i guess here ;

but if this is true for you ,then nothing is true in the scriptures for you have made all the disciples of Christ liars unless you do believe it is Jesus the liar that started all ,and teach his disciples to preach as truth the lies he told them ,

more because in your view Christ his but a kind of idea (spirit) so then the sacrifice of that man that came along and said he his the christ is useless ,

and so you have rendered the entire written word worthless, you are blaspheming the name of God and his son ,

useless servants

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever.

That is not my doctrine but it is scripture.

 

It should help you understand the prophetic view of God

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,

Jesus was conceived in Mary’s womb of her egg.

He was a man like any of us.

 

Because of what this man did we all have a chance to follow him into his death and resurrection.

We do not have to be brought up under the schoolmaster and perfectly obey it.

We do not have to suffer and die as he did, but be reborn of water and the Spirit and walk in him.

Rom 6

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N

how could Jesus be the same yesterday today and for ever if his life started with Mary ?

so it should not include yesterday for according to Paul and

john they believed that he really existed in heaven before he came down through his surrogate human womb ,even Mary only thanks God for the service to God with her body to carry what would be the son of God ,but you don’t care for those scriptures for they go against you grain of wood

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Would you argue with scripture?

Tell us what it means to you.

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N

scriptures are my life my devotion,my hope,my wisdom,there is nothing in this world that can take me away from Christ ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

So you say.

But explain the above scripture to us.

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

K
so THE WORD was with God in the beginning ? yes

and he came down from heaven ? yes

and after he fulfilled all of the law and payed the price for our sins he went back up to his father ? Yes

and so all things were created THROUGH HIM ? Yes

and the WORD was a being the first creation of God ? Yes

are you now saying that all the yeses are true ? with you

I see that the words I spoke confused you though I specified the gender was “it”. I assume it is because you are not familiar with calling the word that comes out of God’s mouth by the title of the Son of God. This is done in order to reveal the Word’s relationship to God; which is as the firstborn to his father.

[terraricca]

K

God did not have to create his ability to speak ,get serious

[kerwin]

Terraric,

You know God speaks in symbolism as Jesus is well known for doing so.

From teaching the woman at the well about the water that a person can drink and not become thirsty again to teaching a crowd of Jews of the bread from heaven that was not manna his use of symbolism as a teaching tool are many.

Are you now denying that he does so?

Here is another teaching for you. It is written to those under the Law as be determined by its words.

“And even if there be not as yet any one who is worthy to be called a son

of God, nevertheless let him labor earnestly to be adorned according to his

firstborn word, the eldest of his angels, as the great archangel of many

names; for he is called, the authority, and the name of God, and the Word,

and man according to God’s image, and he who sees Israel. . . . For even

if we are not yet suitable to be called the sons of God, still we may deserve

to be called the children of his eternal image, of his most sacred word; for

the IMAGE OF GOD IS HIS MOST ANCIENT WORD” (Philo, “On the

Confusion of Tongues,” XXVIII, 146-147, page 247).

My source, Philo, Jews, Targums, and the Logos; is a Trinitarian and the wording confuses the author because whom fails to look at it in the correct way but instead looks as it to support his doctrine. You are looking at John in the same way he looks at Philo’s words.

[Ed J]

more you say it was that spirit of Christ that was created by God and so not a being ,in a way an illusion of something to use later i guess here ;

Hi Pierre,

YOU SAY: spirit of Christ that was created by God – NOT ME!

[terraricca]

ED

I NEVER SAY that for I believe that the WORD is Jesus the son of God ,

and that it is the WORD that came down meaning the being called THE WORD and became Jesus on earth

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

Calling the logos the Son of God has been done for over 2000 years though Trinitarians took a new route and claimed the logos was Jesus before Jesus was conceived in his mother’s womb. John, a Jew, believed as the Jews of his time did. Why chase after teachings that came about after John wrote his gospel.

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Kerwin

I don’t care about the trinitarians ,you seem to look more outside of scriptures than inside of them ,

ignore all what the outside world of men said /says/have said/have written/ just look into the written word of God for that is the only truth ,

now tell me if the WORD of God is not Jesus ?

and stop telling yourself that God spoke in symbols for if you got the truth right you will see those symbols coming to live ,and in reality become common understanding

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

God never said do not look outside Scriptures. That is the claim of men who seek to limit God. God testified that his wisdom is everywhere. Scripture even testifies the High Priest that led the conspiracy to crucify Jesus spoke the word of God in at least one instance. Why do you want to agree with those that seek to limit God?

You claim you do not care Trinitarians and yet you follow their tenet that the Jesus is God even though you change that to Jesus is a god. In short your tenet has evolved from theirs. Mine can be proven to agree with an older teaching, a teaching that existed at the same time as both Jesus and his apostles. Yours is a newer teaching and therefore has no known grounding in the truth.

The word the comes out of God’s mouth became Jesus Christ and all things that are created were created through it just as Genesis 1 teaches. The word is the son of God and the word became Jesus Christ. The symbology is simple to understand for those that seek God’s righteousness and his kingdom.

[terraricca]

Kerwin
so according to you ;the words spoken by God are Jesus Christ ? that is what i understand from your words

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