What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh?

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  • #813207
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed

    micah5

    His going forth are from long ago,

    from the days or eternity.

     

    True of JESUS CHRIST because of the scriptural view

    “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.”

    #813208
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    so you agree that Jesus existed way before his birth in Bethlehem right ?

    #813217
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    No the man Jesus was conceived in Mary.

    Now the anointing is another story.

    #813222
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi t,

    No the man Jesus was conceived in Mary.

    Now the anointing is another story.

    Hi Nick,

    Then you agree that the Prophet Micah is speaking of “the Spirit of Christ”
    that came from eternity to Bethlehem, rather than Jesus’ flesh right?

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #813226
    kerwin
    Participant

    Terrarica,

    The punctuation is that version is poor as it make God seem to be the subject and not the Son.

    My point is that it does not say Jesus so you are assuming it means Jesus. It is not a safe assumption as Jesus is only thing that has a relationship to God like a Heir to his father.

    #813227
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    He speaks prophetically of Jesus Christ.

    First the vessel, then the anointing and finally of the 1000 year reign.

    ps 2

    #813230
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Quit being so evasive and pin down your understanding of Micah 5:2. I believe
    the “he” in this verse is speaking exclusively of “the spirit of Christ” coming
    from eternity to Bethlehem; but you apparently do not believe this.

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

    So please explain what you believe THIS VERSE is saying?

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;

    You believe this part of the verse refers to a Prophecy concerning an ordinary Jesus.

    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

    Then this part of the verse then switches to God referring to himself
    in the third person,saying that his goings have been from everlasting.

    Please be clear and quit beating around the bush!
    Is this what you believe the verse is saying?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #813231
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Why should we devote energy to YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of Micah 5.2

    We know you can countenance no other views.

    #813232
    Ed J
    Participant

    Nick,

    You can’t keep saying you are right
    without at least trying to square your understanding with what Scripture says.

    So if that is not your spin on the verse, what is?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #813233
    Ed J
    Participant

    Or should we instead endlessly argue over your misconceptions,
    without ever hoping to resolve this?

    To me that doesn’t seem like much of an option!

    #813234
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Why should we devote energy to YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of Micah 5.2

    We know you can countenance no other views.

    Nick,

    My goal is at least for you to enlighten me to the spin that you apply to the verse.

    So will you please do so?

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #813235
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    No spin.

    But you do need to grasp the prophetic word

    Not a good idea to read into ONE VERSE a simplistic NOW interpretation when it covers Millenia.

    #813238
    terraricca
    Participant

    N/K

    so according to you guys the anointed one not sent it was the spirit of the anointed one that was sent but what is the SPIRIT OF A ANOINTED ONE ?

    AND WHEN THE one that comes to fulfill all of the law of the anointed one was that also a spirit ?

    you say it is the man Jesus that was born by a surrogate mother ,for YOU GUYS REALLY DON’T WANT TO SEE THAT JESUS WAS NOT CONCEIVED BY THE WILL OF A MAN ;

    AND SO COULD BY NO MEANS AT ALL BE A REAL HUMAN ,ONLY IN YOUR HEAD ,and by set up extra wording or opinions to the divine Christ ,

    and one more thing you guys like to ignore all other scriptures that does not fit your view ,you deny 99 % of all scriptures and yet have the guts to call youselves believers ? believers of what ? the paper on which the words of God are written on ?

    you have put yourself aside from the apostles and so are apostate, for that is what people are called when they do not believe the message of the apostles ,

    the funny thing is that you cannot explain anything else when the scriptures are presented to you ;for when you believe in a lie it takes many lies to conceal, all other truths in scriptures ,

    you guys have no truth of God in you, for God cannot lie and you do

    #813245
    kerwin
    Participant

    Terrarica,

    you say it is the man Jesus that was born by a surrogate mother ,for YOU GUYS REALLY DON’T WANT TO SEE THAT JESUS WAS NOT CONCEIVED BY THE WILL OF A MAN ;

    So Paul spoke an untruth when he told the Roman church Jesus was made of the seed of David in regards to the flesh.

    God even teaches us that he gave Jesus his Spirit and yet you done not believe he received it and so became the Son of God. He became the Son of God as of the Spirit.

    #813248
    terraricca
    Participant

    Kerwin

    you don’t read what you do not understand ,for the truth is not in you

    what is the holy spirit of truth ? tell me

    #813249
    kerwin
    Participant

    Terrarica,

    The Logos is the Son of God.
    It was there on the beginning as God spoke and all that has been created was created.
    The Son of God became Jesus Anointed.

    #813251
    terraricca
    Participant

    K
    so THE WORD was with God in the beginning ? yes

    and he came down from heaven ? yes

    and after he fulfilled all of the law and payed the price for our sins he went back up to his father ? Yes

    and so all things were created THROUGH HIM ? Yes

    and the WORD was a being the first creation of God ? Yes

    are you now saying that all the yeses are true ? with you

    #813255
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Mary was the mother of the man Jesus.

    That is what scripture says.

    #813262
    Ed J
    Participant

    Jesus that was born by a surrogate mother

    Hi Nick,

    Pierre has convinced himself that is true, so no matter how much Scripture
    you show him to the contrary, he will not believe you it is not true.

    Hey that’s kindda like you believing “the spirit of Christ”
    birthed an ordinary Jesus; neither of which is true.

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #813263
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Quit being so evasive and pin down your understanding of Micah 5:2. I believe
    the simple text rendering that “he” is referring to “the spirit of Christ” coming
    from eternity to Bethlehem; but you apparently do not believe this.
    .
    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall HE come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)
    .
    .
    So please explain what you believe THIS VERSE is saying?
    .
    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    .
    You believe this part of the verse refers to a Prophecy concerning an ordinary Jesus.
    .
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)
    .
    Then this part of the verse then switches to God referring to himself
    in the third person,saying that his goings have been from everlasting.
    .
    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    Please be clear and quit beating around the bush!
    Is this what you believe the verse is saying?

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