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- May 2, 2016 at 3:31 pm#813207NickHassanParticipant
Hi Ed
micah5
His going forth are from long ago,
from the days or eternity.
True of JESUS CHRIST because of the scriptural view
“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.”
May 2, 2016 at 4:00 pm#813208terrariccaParticipantN
so you agree that Jesus existed way before his birth in Bethlehem right ?
May 2, 2016 at 4:24 pm#813217NickHassanParticipantHi t,
No the man Jesus was conceived in Mary.
Now the anointing is another story.
May 2, 2016 at 4:31 pm#813222Ed JParticipantHi t,
No the man Jesus was conceived in Mary.
Now the anointing is another story.
Hi Nick,
Then you agree that the Prophet Micah is speaking of “the Spirit of Christ”
that came from eternity to Bethlehem, rather than Jesus’ flesh right?“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)____________
God bless
Ed JMay 2, 2016 at 4:42 pm#813226kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
The punctuation is that version is poor as it make God seem to be the subject and not the Son.
My point is that it does not say Jesus so you are assuming it means Jesus. It is not a safe assumption as Jesus is only thing that has a relationship to God like a Heir to his father.
May 2, 2016 at 5:15 pm#813227NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
He speaks prophetically of Jesus Christ.
First the vessel, then the anointing and finally of the 1000 year reign.
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May 2, 2016 at 6:21 pm#813230Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Quit being so evasive and pin down your understanding of Micah 5:2. I believe
the “he” in this verse is speaking exclusively of “the spirit of Christ” coming
from eternity to Bethlehem; but you apparently do not believe this.“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)So please explain what you believe THIS VERSE is saying?
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;You believe this part of the verse refers to a Prophecy concerning an ordinary Jesus.
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)Then this part of the verse then switches to God referring to himself
in the third person,saying that his goings have been from everlasting.Please be clear and quit beating around the bush!
Is this what you believe the verse is saying?____________
God bless
Ed JMay 2, 2016 at 6:27 pm#813231NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Why should we devote energy to YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of Micah 5.2
We know you can countenance no other views.
May 2, 2016 at 6:29 pm#813232Ed JParticipantNick,
You can’t keep saying you are right
without at least trying to square your understanding with what Scripture says.So if that is not your spin on the verse, what is?
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God bless
Ed JMay 2, 2016 at 6:32 pm#813233Ed JParticipantOr should we instead endlessly argue over your misconceptions,
without ever hoping to resolve this?To me that doesn’t seem like much of an option!
May 2, 2016 at 6:36 pm#813234Ed JParticipantHi Ed,
Why should we devote energy to YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of Micah 5.2
We know you can countenance no other views.
Nick,
My goal is at least for you to enlighten me to the spin that you apply to the verse.
So will you please do so?
____________
God bless
Ed JMay 2, 2016 at 10:00 pm#813235NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
No spin.
But you do need to grasp the prophetic word
Not a good idea to read into ONE VERSE a simplistic NOW interpretation when it covers Millenia.
May 3, 2016 at 2:46 am#813238terrariccaParticipantN/K
so according to you guys the anointed one not sent it was the spirit of the anointed one that was sent but what is the SPIRIT OF A ANOINTED ONE ?
AND WHEN THE one that comes to fulfill all of the law of the anointed one was that also a spirit ?
you say it is the man Jesus that was born by a surrogate mother ,for YOU GUYS REALLY DON’T WANT TO SEE THAT JESUS WAS NOT CONCEIVED BY THE WILL OF A MAN ;
AND SO COULD BY NO MEANS AT ALL BE A REAL HUMAN ,ONLY IN YOUR HEAD ,and by set up extra wording or opinions to the divine Christ ,
and one more thing you guys like to ignore all other scriptures that does not fit your view ,you deny 99 % of all scriptures and yet have the guts to call youselves believers ? believers of what ? the paper on which the words of God are written on ?
you have put yourself aside from the apostles and so are apostate, for that is what people are called when they do not believe the message of the apostles ,
the funny thing is that you cannot explain anything else when the scriptures are presented to you ;for when you believe in a lie it takes many lies to conceal, all other truths in scriptures ,
you guys have no truth of God in you, for God cannot lie and you do
May 3, 2016 at 3:01 am#813245kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
you say it is the man Jesus that was born by a surrogate mother ,for YOU GUYS REALLY DON’T WANT TO SEE THAT JESUS WAS NOT CONCEIVED BY THE WILL OF A MAN ;
So Paul spoke an untruth when he told the Roman church Jesus was made of the seed of David in regards to the flesh.
God even teaches us that he gave Jesus his Spirit and yet you done not believe he received it and so became the Son of God. He became the Son of God as of the Spirit.
May 3, 2016 at 3:05 am#813248terrariccaParticipantKerwin
you don’t read what you do not understand ,for the truth is not in you
what is the holy spirit of truth ? tell me
May 3, 2016 at 3:06 am#813249kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
The Logos is the Son of God.
It was there on the beginning as God spoke and all that has been created was created.
The Son of God became Jesus Anointed.May 3, 2016 at 3:41 am#813251terrariccaParticipantK
so THE WORD was with God in the beginning ? yesand he came down from heaven ? yes
and after he fulfilled all of the law and payed the price for our sins he went back up to his father ? Yes
and so all things were created THROUGH HIM ? Yes
and the WORD was a being the first creation of God ? Yes
are you now saying that all the yeses are true ? with you
May 3, 2016 at 6:36 am#813255NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Mary was the mother of the man Jesus.
That is what scripture says.
May 3, 2016 at 7:52 am#813262Ed JParticipantJesus that was born by a surrogate mother
Hi Nick,
Pierre has convinced himself that is true, so no matter how much Scripture
you show him to the contrary, he will not believe you it is not true.Hey that’s kindda like you believing “the spirit of Christ”
birthed an ordinary Jesus; neither of which is true.____________
God bless
Ed JMay 3, 2016 at 8:01 am#813263Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Quit being so evasive and pin down your understanding of Micah 5:2. I believe
the simple text rendering that “he” is referring to “the spirit of Christ” coming
from eternity to Bethlehem; but you apparently do not believe this.
.
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall HE come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)
.
.
So please explain what you believe THIS VERSE is saying?
.
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
.
You believe this part of the verse refers to a Prophecy concerning an ordinary Jesus.
.
whose goings forth have been from
of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)
.
Then this part of the verse then switches to God referring to himself
in the third person,saying that his goings have been from everlasting.
.
____________
God bless
Ed JPlease be clear and quit beating around the bush!
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