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- October 22, 2020 at 9:38 pm#867025Ed JParticipant
Hi Miia,
What I’m saying is: that the USA as the global leader of the free-world
proves that Jesus is ruling in God’s kingdom, in the people of God.
That is what Daniel 7:27 is teaching those with ears to hear.“The Key” is found in three feasts
of the seven feasts of the LORD
that we are required to attend.____________
God bless
ED JOctober 22, 2020 at 10:33 pm#867026Ed JParticipantHi Miia,
This is from page 7. I think you need to see this again
in light of what has come to pass as T8 points out:October 22, 2020 at 11:05 pm#867027ProclaimerParticipantFor those who think that America and Trump are chosen by God – lol, is all I can say.
You are allowed to believe and even laugh at the idea that God called Donald Trump to lead the US. Whatever your belief is now, he is leading the US despite all the opposition he gets every day.
God bless Donald Trump and America.
October 23, 2020 at 7:17 am#867045GeneBalthropParticipantMiia….I believ all leaders are chosen by God , for the building up or tarring down, there is a scripture as I recall that says that, can’t remember exactly where it’s at right now. Miia, we have been drifting towards Socialization since the late sixties, government has been gradually getting bigger and bigger and intruding into people’s lives more and more, and more and more people are leaning on government to supply there lively hoods. Ii’s gone so far that I don’t even know anyone that is not getting some type of add from the government theses days. And as government got bigger and bigger, it has imposed taxes upon taxes, on it’s working citizens, more and more regulations, taking control of our lives every day. I tell you the truth this is not the America today I was raised up in.
Miia what I think is this election is a way to see how much we have drifted toward Socialism and not only that how far we have drifted away from God and what he says also. Look at the changes that has taken place here , we now accept homosexual pervision as an excepted way of life, kill innocent babies by the millions, attack our police officers doing their job, belittling them , we are in bad shape here Miia. This election will show not only us but the rest of the world were we are as a people, it will become evident not only to God , but the rest of us and the world also.
Pray for us Miia.
Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
October 23, 2020 at 9:14 am#867051ProclaimerParticipantT8, I did not say it was crazy to think Trump would win!
I forgot to mention in my last post here that yes you have a point and point taken.
So the real debate between us is whether Donald Trump was chosen by God. I say yes, you obviously say no.
Do you believe in the history of the world that there was any leader of a nation that was chosen by God?
October 25, 2020 at 8:01 pm#867091MiiaParticipantHi Miia,
What I’m saying is: that the USA as the global leader of the free-world
proves that Jesus is ruling in God’s kingdom, in the people of God.
That is what Daniel 7:27 is teaching those with ears to hear.“The Key” is found in three feasts
of the seven feasts of the LORD
that we are required to attend.____________
God bless
ED JHi Ed, I don’t understand sorry.
Jesus is the ruler of his kingdom which is a spiritual kingdom on Earth – his kingdom is in heaven. His people are spread throughout this Earth. They are in the world but not of the world.
John 15:19: “If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.”
John 17:14: “I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.”
John 18:36 “Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
1st John 2:16: “For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.”
1st John 4:5: “They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them.”
1st John 5:19: “We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.”
October 25, 2020 at 8:02 pm#867092MiiaParticipantThis site is looking good I like the italic quote!
October 25, 2020 at 8:12 pm#867093MiiaParticipantMiia….I believ all leaders are chosen by God , for the building up or tarring down, there is a scripture as I recall that says that, can’t remember exactly where it’s at right now. Miia, we have been drifting towards Socialization since the late sixties, government has been gradually getting bigger and bigger and intruding into people’s lives more and more, and more and more people are leaning on government to supply there lively hoods. Ii’s gone so far that I don’t even know anyone that is not getting some type of add from the government theses days. And as government got bigger and bigger, it has imposed taxes upon taxes, on it’s working citizens, more and more regulations, taking control of our lives every day. I tell you the truth this is not the America today I was raised up in.
Miia what I think is this election is a way to see how much we have drifted toward Socialism and not only that how far we have drifted away from God and what he says also. Look at the changes that has taken place here , we now accept homosexual pervision as an excepted way of life, kill innocent babies by the millions, attack our police officers doing their job, belittling them , we are in bad shape here Miia. This election will show not only us but the rest of the world were we are as a people, it will become evident not only to God , but the rest of us and the world also.
Pray for us Miia.
Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
Gene, I know. The world has gone mad. I hear you. I do believe there is a place for politics and leaders – speaking from my earthly mind. I have never voted (I’m almost 50!), but I voted this year for some small party whom had a plan to freeze the rising housing costs and help people out more with the basics. Even though I disagree with making abortion, etc. legal I thought about Jesus and what he said, and his priority seemed to be feeding the hungry etc., so I voted with that in mind. Jacinda Ardern won, and that is good because she does care for the poor more than the opposition. Anyway I will be watching your elections with interest Gene. Peace and love to you and yours too.
October 25, 2020 at 8:15 pm#867094MiiaParticipantI forgot to mention in my last post here that yes you have a point and point taken.
So the real debate between us is whether Donald Trump was chosen by God. I say yes, you obviously say no.
Do you believe in the history of the world that there was any leader of a nation that was chosen by God?
Thank you t8.
No, I don’t believe that any person was chosen by God – post Jesus Christ, except Jesus Christ. Presidents /PMs were obviously chosen by earthly people – they voted for what they wanted. Please see the verses I posted above to Ed.
October 25, 2020 at 10:17 pm#867096ProclaimerParticipantFair enough.
The way it works IMO when God choses a leader it is not always good for the people. He gives the leader that they deserve. Sometimes God let’s people be invaded by an enemy or should I say that it has more to do with people ignoring God so he removes his protection.
I also believe that if a country humbles itself and the people pray for a godly leader, then God can put it in the heart of that leader to be available for that position. And God can put it in people’s heart to vote for that person. Of course, not everyone listens to God.
I see Trump as having the impossible job, yet he seems to thrive. He has all these people and institutions against him, But Americans have been praying about their nation’s increasing wickedness and kicking God out of everything institution, that they have been praying for a Godly leader and to rid America of corruption. If the people didn’t ask, then they wouldn’t have anyone to save them.
Besides doing the impossible, the fact that Godless people also hate Trump is another sign. Demons rile people up against anything that God is doing. I have never seen anything like this before in my life. People seem possessed.
I end this post with 2 scriptures from the New Testament and one from the Old Testament.
First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone — for kings and all those in authority—so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity.…
“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others.
October 25, 2020 at 10:20 pm#867097ProclaimerParticipantThis site is looking good I like the italic quote!
Thank you. It has taken a while to get it to this stage. Making it mobile compatible was a priority and was one of the reasons for changing it. Not everyone was happy with the change initially, but I think it paid off in the end.
October 26, 2020 at 2:13 am#867098GeneBalthropParticipantProclaimer…..the scripture you posted in blue, was the one I was thinking of , when I posted to Miia.
Peace and love to you and yours………gene
November 2, 2020 at 11:22 pm#867234ProclaimerParticipantWhy Trump is the right choice
November 3, 2020 at 4:54 am#867244GeneBalthropParticipantProclaimer…..well we will see tomorrow, where we are at in this Nation, it will certanily expose us as a people. If the Socialist Democrats win we are in big trouble. May God preserve our Republic, till the comming of our lord Jesus.
Peace and love to you and yours………gene
November 3, 2020 at 1:01 pm#867248ProclaimerParticipantAmen. I’ve been praying.
November 4, 2020 at 9:35 pm#867273MiiaParticipantYep watching it now.
November 4, 2020 at 9:39 pm#867274MiiaParticipantFair enough.
The way it works IMO when God choses a leader it is not always good for the people. He gives the leader that they deserve. Sometimes God let’s people be invaded by an enemy or should I say that it has more to do with people ignoring God so he removes his protection.
I also believe that if a country humbles itself and the people pray for a godly leader, then God can put it in the heart of that leader to be available for that position. And God can put it in people’s heart to vote for that person. Of course, not everyone listens to God.
I see Trump as having the impossible job, yet he seems to thrive. He has all these people and institutions against him, But Americans have been praying about their nation’s increasing wickedness and kicking God out of everything institution, that they have been praying for a Godly leader and to rid America of corruption. If the people didn’t ask, then they wouldn’t have anyone to save them.
Besides doing the impossible, the fact that Godless people also hate Trump is another sign. Demons rile people up against anything that God is doing. I have never seen anything like this before in my life. People seem possessed.
I end this post with 2 scriptures from the New Testament and one from the Old Testament.
First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone — for kings and all those in authority—so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity.…
“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others.
Two scriptures from Paul, written for his time. I follow the words of Jesus, but we are all different and that’s okay.
Fair enough too.
November 5, 2020 at 7:04 am#867279ProclaimerParticipantDo you think the Democrats are trying to steal the election? It looked like Trump was cruising to victory and then things slowed right down.
It was said by many before the election that this would happen. That the Dems would use mail in ballots to rig the election.
November 5, 2020 at 8:55 pm#867281ProclaimerParticipantPray for America!
The U.S. is in a precarious situation. The outcome of the presidential election will be felt all over the world… including here.
There are grave concerns there will be unprecedented violence and anarchy by far-left groups, especially if Trump wins, or if the result is protracted.Please pray for calm and for the protection of lives and businesses!
As you may know, the Trump/Pence and Biden/Harris policy platforms couldn’t be more different. These are agendas that will take the US in two very different directions and impact the world in very different ways.
I could list each policy area, but the biggest concern as I see it is the controlling ideology behind the Democrat platform. It is an anti-Christian, anti-freedom, divisive and unbelievably destructive set of ideas called Cultural Marxism. Those of you who read my recent booklet, Unmasking Cultural Marxism will know all about it and why it’s deeply unchristian.
The Trump administration is responsible for much good: Pro-life, religious freedom, historic peace deals, unprecedented levels of employment, and so forth. He has also surrounded himself with many strong Christians.
Trump is brash and imperfect, but he’s a bombastic man with great policies. Biden is a calm man with dreadful policies rooted in a dreadful ideology. That’s what’s at stake.
As America goes, so goes the world. Your prayers for America in the next 48 hours would be well spent.
November 5, 2020 at 9:14 pm#867282ProclaimerParticipant“When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice:
but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” (Prov 29:2) - AuthorPosts
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