Was Jesus without the HS for

[Wakeup]

ARE THE BLIND NOT LEADING THE BLIND?

Was Jesus without the HS for thirty years?
Since you caim that he only recived the HS at the jordan.
And did He need to be baptised for repentance?
Can anyone so called born again with the spirit explain?

Jesus never sinned because he is born of God.
Why did He need to be baptised?
For what purpose? Did He need the washing?
Was He born without the Holy Spirit?
How can He be the perfect sacrifice?

All you saved: with no need of knowledge; they say.
All you in the kingdom of God; they claim.
Does your Jesus need repentance; and be washed?

How can you claim to be born again if you dont know your Lord? Is that not men's teachings you are following?
Are you going to hang on to such a teaching?
What does the spirit in you say about this?

Are you not suppose to know the Lord you worship?
Dont you think that it is time to wake, and face the truth
like a genuine worshipper?
Do you really care,or dont you?
Man's wine; is it that good that you wont let go?

The truth only will set you free.
False teachings will lead you further from God.
Is that what you want? Dont you desire the treasures from heaven?

God said: know me. Jesus said:come ye heavily laden, and I will give you rest.
The same Jesus that you said was without the HS for his thirty years on earth.The same Jesus you said needs repentance and be baptised with water.

Dont you think it's time to wake from that deep sleep?
And do some retinking. The trumpet has sounded,take heed.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Yes he was a man like you.
He never sinned though perfectly obeying the Law
God guided him though his early years and then fill him with the Spirit at the Jordan.

Do you not like the way God did it?
tough

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,20:53)

Hi WU, Yes he was a man like you. He never sinned though perfectly obeying the Law God guided him though his early years and then fill him with the Spirit at the Jordan. Do you not like the way God did it? tough

If Jesus spirit is perfect in Him,
is that not the Holy Spirit?
If you walk in the spirit of Christ;
is that not the Holy Spirit?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,15:53)

Hi WU, Yes he was a man like you. He never sinned though perfectly obeying the Law God guided him though his early years and then fill him with the Spirit at the Jordan. Do you not like the way God did it? tough

nICK

I SEE THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH JESUS ON HIS ORIGINS,

YOU SAY HE IS A MAN LIKE US ;JESUS SAYS HE IS FROM ABOVE ,HE SAYS HE CAME DOWN FROM THE FATHER ,

SORRY BUT I BELIEVE IN SCRIPTURES NOT SILLY OLD MEN THAT TELLS OLD WOMEN STORIES ,

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Jesus was a man like you.
Like he was at the Jordan you can be filled with the Holy Spirit.
If you submit to the Spirit and are led when your own spirit leaves the Holy Spirit will abide in you for eternity

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,23:40)

Hi WU, Jesus was a man like you. Like he was at the Jordan you can be filled with the Holy Spirit. If you submit to the Spirit and are led when your own spirit leaves the Holy Spirit will abide in you for eternity

NICK

first he was not a man like any of us FOR HE HAD NO SIN ;

SECONDLY ;NO MAN CAN SAVE ANOTHER FOR ALL HAVE SIN AND FALL SHORT OF GOD'S GLORY ,THIS CANNOT APPLY TO CHRIST BECAUSE HE IS THE IMAGE OF GOD'S GLORY ,

NOW JESUS ALSO SAID HE CAME FROM ABOVE ,DID HE LIED

OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So being tempted as we are and not sinning made him something else than a man?

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
He was baptised to fulfil all righteousness not for forgiveness as you will know.
When will you cease your rebellion against God?

[kerwin]

T,

What passage do you get ” FOR HE HAD NO SIN” from? I could not find it under the search of the words I thought of.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ May 27 2014,04:10)

T, What passage do you get ” FOR HE HAD NO SIN” from?  I could not find it under the search of the words I thought of.

K

HEB 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,02:47)

Hi WU, He was baptised to fulfil all righteousness not for forgiveness as you will know. When will you cease your rebellion against God?

N

what do you think “FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS “MEANS

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
John 14:30
I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me;

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Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,18:19)

ARE THE BLIND NOT LEADING THE BLIND? Was Jesus without the HS for thirty years? Since you caim that he only recived the HS at the jordan. And did He need to be baptised for repentance? Can anyone so called born again with the spirit explain? Jesus never sinned because he is born of God. Why did He need to be baptised? For what purpose? Did He need the washing? Was He born without the Holy Spirit? How can He be the perfect sacrifice? All you saved: with no need of knowledge; they say. All you in the kingdom of God; they claim. Does your Jesus need repentance; and be washed? How can you claim to be born again if you dont know your Lord? Is that not men's teachings you are following? Are you going to hang on to such a teaching? What does the spirit in you say about this? Are you not suppose to know the Lord you worship? Dont you think that it is time to wake, and face the truth like a genuine worshipper? Do you really care,or dont you? Man's wine; is it that good that you wont let go? The truth only will set you free. False teachings will lead you further from God. Is that what you want? Dont you desire the treasures from heaven? God said: know me. Jesus said:come ye heavily laden, and I will give you rest. The same Jesus that you said was without the HS for his thirty years on earth.The same Jesus you said needs repentance and be baptised with water. Dont you think it's time to wake from that deep sleep? And do some retinking. The trumpet has sounded,take heed. wakeup.

Wakeup:

He did not receive the Holy Spirit until after he was baptized in water.

Until then, he lived as a Jew under the law of Moses, and raised by parents who were under the Law, but no, he does not need forgiveness, because he did not sin.

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Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[Wakeup]

Marty.

Please explain this scripture.

Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together,
***she was found with child of the Holy Ghost***.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Of course human fatherhood by the Spirit did not make him a different man.
Adam was a son of God by creation and he was not of the Spirit
The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God[rom8]

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,06:26)

Hi WU, Of course human fatherhood by the Spirit did not make him a different man. Adam was a son of God by creation and he was not of the Spirit The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God[rom8]

Adam is indeed the son of God.
God gave him the breath of life,and he BECAME a living soul.
Adam also was given a choice.
He had a free will.
He can make his own decision.
He chose to break that bond with his creator.

God was directly speaking to him by voice.
Not by the HS.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
So he was not a son of God by the Spirit.

Neither were the jewish sons in Deut
Neither were those who hoped they were through Abraham.

Sons of the devil he called them

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,13:12)

Hi WU, So he was not a son of God by the Spirit. Neither were the jewish sons in Deut Neither were those who hoped they were through Abraham. Sons of the devil he called them

God loves all He created;but hates their deeds.
He will love all that comes to Him.
His mercy is so great that He gives all the devil worshipping gentiles a chance.
This is in the second resurrection.
All gentiles will be judged by how they have lived as a human. There are amongst them some good hearted ones.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

hi WU,
The judgement of the sheep and goats specifically relates to how men have treated the brothers of Jesus

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,13:24)

hi WU, The judgement of the sheep and goats specifically relates to how men have treated the brothers of Jesus

No. how man (gentiles) have lived with one another.
How he treated his human brother.
God also understands that the devil and all his angels are
too powerful for them to resist,because they have not known Christ,for good reasons.

They were brought up amongst their own traditions.and believes thinking that is the true way.

Christians should know God and His Son, and not go after devil worship. They will be judged guilty.

wakeup.

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