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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,18:03) Hi Jammin,
Do you believe Jesus is a man?
Are men created?
Nmen after Adam are no longer created in the same way,
right ?? yes
BUT CHRIST IS NOT A REGULAR MAN HE IS THE WORD OF GOD AND SO CAME DOWN TO BE BORN AS A MAN BUT NOT TROUGH A MAN MADE PROCESS
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,18:51) Hi T,
Yes the Word was made flesh in Jesus
NJesus was THE WORD OF GOD and he was the son of GOD, and he was the anointed one of God ,and he was the King of choice of God for the throne of David,
he was the Lamb of God ,the sacrificial Lamb of humanity,
all the above Jesus Christ was at ones between his 33.5
years he lived in the flesh,
Hi Kerwin,
Quote The results of sin are inherited, not the sin. You say the results of sin are inherited, to this I agree.
It is inherited in the FLESH…..Jesus came without sin, inherited or otherwise.
Quote Scripture declares both Jesus and John the Baptist were conceived of their respective mother, Luke 1:35-36. Conceived, means to “be born”
And this as I have already said, Jesus was born. Jesus did not come in fallen flesh as we did.
Yet He was every bit a man just like the first Adam.
Was Adam a man, was he able to fall. Of course he was and did. Jesus was created by God, like Adam, except He came from a created blood cell.As Nick said, He was an overcomer. Where the first Adam failed to overcome. The 2nd Adam overcame.
God Bless
MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ April 11 2012,19:14) Hi Kerwin, Quote The results of sin are inherited, not the sin. You say the results of sin are inherited, to this I agree.
It is inherited in the FLESH…..Jesus came without sin, inherited or otherwise.
Quote Scripture declares both Jesus and John the Baptist were conceived of their respective mother, Luke 1:35-36. Conceived, means to “be born”
And this as I have already said, Jesus was born. Jesus did not come in fallen flesh as we did.
Yet He was every bit a man just like the first Adam.
Was Adam a man, was he able to fall. Of course he was and did. Jesus was created by God, like Adam, except He came from a created blood cell.As Nick said, He was an overcomer. Where the first Adam failed to overcome. The 2nd Adam overcame.
God Bless
Marlin
K and M1you should read more in the scriptures;
the sin of Adam as degraded the body of flesh we carry from him down to our parents till now,
if Jesus would have have any pert in the flesh of man either sex,he would have been cursed with the down graded flesh like we are,but he did not ,BECAUSE GOD NEEDED A PERFECT OFFERING WITHOUT BLEMISH WITHOUT SIN OF ANY KIND ;This is why Mary was only a surrogate Mother ,God provide all others ,May just provided a body as scriptures foretold,
Hi T,
The curse was not manifested in a shortened lifespan because he was murdered at 33.
But Is 53 shows he did not have an easy life-he was esteemed to be stricked, smitten of God and afflicted.
Indeed he was found clean at the Jordan and did not need to be baptised for cleansing by John except to fulfill all righteousness.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:16) Hi T,
The curse was not manifested in a shortened lifespan because he was murdered at 33.
But Is 53 shows he did not have an easy life-he was esteemed to be stricked, smitten of God and afflicted.
Indeed he was found clean at the Jordan and did not need to be baptised for cleansing by John except to fulfill all righteousness.
NI have told you the truth but you argue with it ,because you reject truth ,if not show the scriptures that I have broken
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:17) Hi T,
Jesus spoke of her as his mother but you would argue?
Nthis I do not remember so help me ;
in witch verse of the bible does Christ himself call Mary ,mother
?I know he called her women , many other people call Mary his mother ,
so help me ok ?
Quote (Marlin1 @ April 11 2012,12:14) Conceived, means to “be born”
Hi Marlin,FALSE! …do you really not know the difference?
Conceived means “pregnancy”, and birthed means to “be born”. …they are not interchangeable terms!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,16:35) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:17) Hi T,
Jesus spoke of her as his mother but you would argue?
Nthis I do not remember so help me ;
in witch verse of the bible does Christ himself call Mary ,mother
?I know he called her women , many other people call Mary his mother ,
so help me ok ?
Hi Pierre, shall your rudimentary logic sweep away all this Scripture?“an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, Saying, Arise,
and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel:
for they are dead which sought the young child's life. And he arose,
and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.” (Matt 2:19-21)Matt 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold,
his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.Luke 2:34-35 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold,
this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.Luke 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son,
why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.Luke 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth,
and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orghi T,
try where scripture says Mary is his mother
mt 1.18,, mt 2.11,mt 2.13, mt 2.20, mt 2.21, mt 12.46, mk 3.31, lk 1.60, lk2.33, lk 2.34, lk 2.48, lk 8.19, jn 2.1,jn 2.3, jn 2.5, jn 2.12, jn 6.42, jn 19.25, jn 19.26, jn 19.27, , ac 1.14 etcMarlin,
Where did you get the idea conceived means to be born? Conceived means to come into existence and is translated from ancient Greek word that basically means “taken”. There is nothing of born about it as all. John the Baptist was also taken in his mother’ womb and was there six months when Jesus’ miracles conception was foretold to Mary.
The results of Adam’s sin are inherited in a natural body and spirit; which is to say mortal and with sinful tendencies. The spiritual body and spirit are different though the earlier appears the same.
As I pointed out Jesus did come from fallen flesh; a requirement to rescue his brothers; that is why it is written he shared in our natural flesh and blood body, Hebrews 2:14. Jesus’ faith delighted God; and God put his Spirit on Jesus, Isaiah 42:1, as first of many brothers, Romans 8:29.
I agree with you that Jesus was formed from a cell of Mary. I also am in agreement he overcame and teaches us to do the same.
Hi KW,
You forget the SOUL of man.
Man is a living SOULOnly the Spirit can cleave between the soul and spirit [heb 4.12]
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,02:02) Hi KW,
You forget the SOUL of man.
Man is a living SOULOnly the Spirit can cleave between the soul and spirit [heb 4.12]
Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,12:34) Quote (Marlin1 @ April 11 2012,12:14) Conceived, means to “be born”
Hi Marlin,FALSE! …do you really not know the difference?
Conceived means “pregnancy”, and birthed means to “be born”. …they are not interchangeable terms!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,Pregnancy is a poor definition for conceived, though dictionaries do give it, as children can now be conceived in a “test tube” and then implanted in a woman.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,14:02) Hi KW,
You forget the SOUL of man.
Man is a living SOULOnly the Spirit can cleave between the soul and spirit [heb 4.12]
Nick,I lack knowledge of how or if the soul of men was effected by the Fall.
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