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Hi t8,
And just as Jesus was raised by the abiding Spirit in him so those who share the Spirit will share the promise.
Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are none of his.
two births and one death
or
one birth and the possibility of two deaths.
When Simeon said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation” was he wrong? “Yes” or “No” ?
EDJ….You AND T8 both have doged my answer , “YES”…
Hi Gene,
Are you saying “Yes” he was wrong when he said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation”
or
Are you saying “No” he wasn’t wrong when he said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation”Please be clear is your
answer “Yes” or “No”?Gene,
They are well aware that Jesus saved us by his actions but they are do not want to admit it even to themselves for then they would be admitting error. It is not even critical to their teachings so it means they have other reasons what they should know is false. We each have to watch that we do not do the same thing.
Gene,
Notice that just like t8, Ed is now avoiding my questions.
I will ask it again just as I have t8 because I miss things at times.
Hi Ed,
The Holy Spirit was on Simeon.
If you shared that Spirit you would share his insight into the relevance of the birth of the man Jesus.
Hi Ed,
President Obama was born in Hawaii.
But nobody suggests that this statement means that he had already become president.
Understand the prophetic word.
Hi KW,
So you read into my words what was not written ?
Spare us the drama.
I can only surmise that you are very sensitive to suggestions that reason is not infallible.
Nick,
The wisdom of God is beyond foolish reason.
By calling all reason foolish you condemn it.
There is reason that is foolish as it is based on the principles of the flesh as opposed to those of the Spirit but that is not how you have been using it.
Should I go back and reveal other instances of you condemning what God sees as very good?
I understand that we are taught by the world not to admit a fault so you don have to answer this post but it would be wise for you to consider your actions and your words.
Hi KW,
How can you reach upwards to what is greater if your focus is on glorifying what is of earth?
Creation is very good but our minds must be transformed by renewal.
The ways of God are perfect. Any argument?
Nick,
You are trying to excuse your behavior and not having yourself cleans from your sins. Confess your sins and God will cleanse you of all unrighteousness.
Hi KW,
Glorify human wisdom if you must
but the wisdom of God is greater.
You accuse of sin?
This wisdom descendeth not from above but is earthy, sensual, devilish….jas 3.15
My ways are higher than your ways and My thoughts higher than yours.
Hi t8,
Jesus the messiah was born at Bethlehem and reborn at the Jordan.
Why do you bear false witness against me?
Hi Kerwin,
Notice that just like t8, Ed is now avoiding my questions.
I will ask it again just as I have t8 because I miss things at times.
Since I answered the question you posed to T8 that YOU SAY he was avoiding, I will give you
the opportunity to answer the question that I posed to Gene which IS BEING clearly avoided…“And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon;
and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel:
and the Holy Ghost was upon him. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost,
that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.” (Luke 2:25-26)“And he (Simeon) came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus,
to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God,
and said, LORD, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:
For mine eyes have seen thy salvation” (Luke 2:27-30)When Simeon said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation” was he wrong? “YES” or “NO” ?
And please do not attempt to answer a different question – which is the pattern (see point #2)
When people try to insist on holding to untruths when those untruths
are challenged – by asking refining questions – what they do is:1. Try to ignore the question outright
2. Divert, by answering a different question
3. Outright refuse to answer the refining question
4. Answer the question and let the chips fall where they mayOr
5. LIE to protect their untruth
6. Implement a deception (in addition to lying) to protect their untruthSo far Gene has tried #1 and #2. We will have to see if he progresses
all the way to outright deception to protect his faulty logic.Hi Kerwin,
Jesus essentially said in John 12:48 that God’s word has the final say
“The Hot Seat” was set up here to test peoples pet beliefs
by comparing what they believe to what Scripture says.And asking one question at a time ensures that the points are being addressed
rather than cleverly being avoided by repeating the same redbrick over and over.
But regardless of the thread: Asking a series of refining y/n questions does just that.
I have even laid out in the last post a pattern of avoidance’s which are commonly used.People can claim anything they want as ‘truth’ – BUT we are called
upon as Christians to test all things and to hold fast to what is true.Perhaps you are uncomfortable to have what you say examined
and tested against what Scripture says. But I welcome you
to compare my words to Scripture as Acts 17:11 states._____________
God bless
Ed JHi Kerwin,
…asking a series of y/n refining questions avoids the usual get no-where…
…compare the rederick of you say over and over…
…to what someone Else is saying to you.
It is therefore best to ask a series of y/n refining questions,
which can be examined and compared to what Scripture says……it is as simple as that!
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God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
No the Spirit has the final say.
The prophetic word is a lamp till the morning star rises in your heart.
To all….Jesus did have two berths one was when he was born human being, one was when he was born from above at the Jordan river, we must also be born again from above, by that same spirit, Nick has said it right. IMO
peace and love to you all and yours……..gene
@Ed,
When Simeon said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation” was he wrong? “YES” or “NO” ?
The Christ is the promised Christ because Jesus was most likely no even conceived when Simon was given that promise. The word promise is inferred from the context just like with other instances of Scripture.
The same is true of salvation. Unless there is a need to emphasize the promised it is an extraneous word. Now with that context the answer is no, he was not wrong but you are because you fail to consider context. The same with t8 and the angel’s words.
I bolded the answer is the above paragraph and have a question of my own for you.
Did Jesus have go away for the Spirit to come?
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