Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #812977
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Jesus Christ was born at Bethlehem.

    He was anounced to be the Son of God by God at the Jordan where the Holy Spirit alighted on him.

    #812978
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    The part that you keep missing here is: that Bethelehem means “HOUSE OF BREAD”:
    The bread verses indeed refer to the origins of the Spirit of Christ coming to Bethlehem!
    So they do in fact corroborate Micah 5:2 – and indeed disannul your private interpretation
    of Prophecy that the Spirit of Christ instead (according to you) came to Jesus at the Jordan river.

    I am the bread which came down from heaven” (John 6:41)
    “the Father hath sent me” (John 5:36)
    “I came down from heaven” (John 6:38)

    I am the living bread which came down from heaven” (John 6:51)
    “This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that
    a man may eat thereof, and not die.”(John 6:50)

    Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life” (John 6:35)
    “God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son” (Gal 4:6, Micah 5:2)
    “my Father hath sent me” (John 20:21)
    “I came down from heaven” (John 6:42)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812979
    Ed J
    Participant

    “no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation” (2 Peter 1:20)
    “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed” (2 Peter 1:19)

    “If it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it;
    lest haply ye be found even to fight against God” (Acts 5:39)

    #812980
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    No I do not think it relates to the birth of Jesus Christ at Bethlehem.

    Why do you not relate it to earlier as you seem to think he was never conceived but clothed in flesh.

     

    Scripture tells us he was conceived.

    A man-body soul and spirit

    #812981
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    No I do not think it relates to the birth of Jesus Christ at Bethlehem.

    Hi Nick,

    Do you think that Bethlehem meaning “House of Bread”
    and Christ saying he is bread that came down from heaven
    just a convent set of circumstances with no real connection? y/n

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812982
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Why do you imagine mysterious connections?

    Was Jesus a man and conceived?

    #812983
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    It has prophetic significance.

    But you seem to be stuck in the NOW.

    #812984
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Do you think that Bethlehem meaning “House of Bread”
    and Christ saying he is bread that came down from heaven
    just a convent set of circumstances with no real connection? y/n

    Hi Nick,

    Is your answer “No” ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812985
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    No.

    Very appropriate given the prophetic aspects.

     

    Did you think it meant that the embryo was anointed before birth?

    Why?

    #812986
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Was Jesus conceived as men are?

    #812994
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Mt 7:19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
    Mt 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
    Mt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
    Mt 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
    Mt 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

    you seem not to understand that you in fact do not provide the fruits , fruits that are the truth of God not our own version of things not said in scriptures

    #812998
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    You think fruit is words?

    #813015
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    what do you think are the fruits ?

    #813023
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t

    gal 5 22-23

    #813031
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    LK 6:46 “ Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

    those are the true fruits ,your verses are the qualities in which these fruits have to apply with

    #813045
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    D you believe what the Spirit said through Jesus Christ?

    #813052
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    do you know what the spirit told Jesus ?

    if yes how ?

    #813057
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    No the Spirit did not relay stuff through Jesus.

    Jesus was the vessel the Spirit spoke DIRECTLY through.

     

    #813071
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Jesus said all the things he heard from his father in his father place those are the words he spoke ,

    he also talked to his father while with his disciples but pay attention to what was said it always applied to serve others in actions ,

    but the teachings he heard from his father ,

    the only reason why you think in your way is because you think Jesus was a ordinary man ,and scriptures say he was not and i believe the scriptures

    #813072
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Were the apostles inspired by the Spirit?

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