Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #812903
    Ed J
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    Hi Nick,

    “But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it;
    lest haply ye be found even to fight against God” (Acts 5:39)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812906
    terraricca
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    Nick

    Hi t,

    So you think a divine being somehow convinced ordinary men to become extraordinary and heal and raise the dead.

    You have no idea of the work of the Spirit do you?
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    you seem to forget that the miracles are done by God and not men ,not even Jesus ,but all by God for Jesus came down and took the cover of a servant

    and so had no powers of his own beside being free of making his choices ,but God his father was with him proving that Jesus was indeed his only son ,

    Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
    Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    and became obedient to death—
    even death on a cross!
    Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    Phil 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.

    #812927
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    whoops.

    You are diverting.

    You think that the Spirit of Christ came from Bethlehem

    but you offer us verses about the heavenly origins of the Spirit of Christ which are true.

    And you even claim divine authority for your ideas!

     

    There is no connection so they are not witnesses to your private interpretation

    #812928
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Do you really think that we are up against the inspiration of God when we challenge your private interpretations?

    #812929
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Yes.

    Why did you not say that last time?

    #812930
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You think the Spirit of Christ will be the ruler?

    No Jesus Christ will be.

     

    An ordinary man made extraordinary by unity with the Spirit.

    #812934
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    because you did not ask me , you just give stupid answers instead of asking smart questions

    #812937
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    No but I think you are facing the need to resolve the problem that the traditional teaching of a preexistent heavenly being causes. Truth teaches a meek and humble man transformed by the Spirit and the two ideas clash.

    #812938
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi N

    you cannot answer my questions in regard of the scriptures I presented to you without changing the meaning of the entire scriptures ,

    and you try to tell me you have the truth ? are you on pills ,

    I know the spirit ,I know what the spirit can do and not do

    I know how it is send /given and taken

    this is more than you ever can say and demonstrate,

    #812942
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    You will never recognise truth even as you stumble over it.

    The thick tradional glasses you wear distort your view.

    #812945
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    you are a pharisee don’t deny it ,you like to be taken for someone that knows the truth but you cannot prove most of what you believe in with scriptures the way they are written ,

    I know what I say I have 5/6 years experience with you ,

    you still think that Christ was not born the christ ,you still not believe that Jesus existed before his coming has a human ,and more

    #812951
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    You are right about some things.

    I no longer hold to the false teachings of tradition.

    #812958
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    so because you do not believe “you still think that Christ was not born the christ ,you still not believe that Jesus existed before his coming has a human ,and more”

    then how can you claim to believe the scriptures that clearly say so ? who do you try to deceive ?

    #812964
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    We cannot make truth clearer for you.

    Get balm for your eyes.

    #812966
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    Very illogical.

    Very spiritual

    Spiritually true.

    A key verse to unlock the mystery.

     

    Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

    #812971
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Here are just some of the verses that corroborates what Micah 5:2 says:
    Bethlehem, the city where Christ was born, means “House of Bread”
    “I am the bread which came down from heaven” (John 6:41)
    .
    “the Father hath sent me” (John 5:36)
    “I came down from heaven” (John 6:38)
    .
    “God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son” (Gal 4:6)
    .
    “my Father hath sent me” (John 20:21)
    “I came down from heaven” (John 6:42)
    .
    “Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life” (John 6:35)
    “I am the living bread which came down from heaven” (John 6:51)

    Hi Ed,

    You think that the Spirit of Christ came from Bethlehem

    but you offer us verses about the heavenly origins of the Spirit of Christ which are true.

    Hi Nick,

    The part that you keep missing is that BETHLEHEM MEANS “HOUSE OF BREAD”:
    So the bread verses are about the heavenly origins of the Spirit of Christ to BETHLEHEM!
    So they do in fact corroborate Micah 5:2 – and indeed disannul your private interpretation
    of Prophecythat the Spirit of Christ instead (according to you) came to Jesus at the Jordan river.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812973
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ed,

    None of them even mention Bethlehem so your hope for them to be witnesses is dashed.

    #812974
    Ed J
    Participant

    BETHLEHEM MEANS “HOUSE OF BREAD”

    BETHLEHEM MEANS “HOUSE OF BREAD”

    BETHLEHEM MEANS “HOUSE OF BREAD”

    BETHLEHEM MEANS “HOUSE OF BREAD”

    #812975
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Do you really think that we are up against the inspiration of God when we challenge your private interpretations?

    Hi Nick,

    But *IF* it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it;
    lest haply ye be found even to fight against God” (Acts 5:39)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812976
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You think the Spirit of Christ will be the ruler?

    No Jesus Christ will be.

    No Nick,

    “I go to my Father, and ye see me no more” (John 16:10)

    “yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
    yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

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    God bless
    Ed J

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