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- June 9, 2016 at 9:05 am#814675Ed JParticipant
Hi Everyone,
It’s time for everyone to wake-up. God has
indeed groomed Donald J. Trump to be President:June 13, 2016 at 3:24 pm#814817Andrew ADParticipantDear Kerwin, I agree with what you say on the interpretation of Dan 11;37 and fundamentalists do of course hate and want their antichrist to be a homosexual. But I don’t even see or agree that the verse is speaking of their fabled antichrist at all.
And Trump is not a hater of LGBT community either but he doesn’t intend to give them special privileges they certainly don’t have coming.
Stand firm against Satan and his willies !!!~
June 13, 2016 at 3:28 pm#814819Andrew ADParticipantDear Ed J, I listen to Michael Savage at least some nearly everyday. He’s my fav radio talk show host. I don’t agree with all he says but I hope he’s right about Trump.
June 14, 2016 at 5:33 am#814837AnonymousInactiveYes, 2016 US Pres. DJ Trump is chosen by God to make America Great Again! Alleluia! Amen! <3 O:) * (Y)
June 14, 2016 at 7:21 pm#814871Ed JParticipantHi MML,
God bless you and welcome to H-Net!
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Ed JJuly 7, 2016 at 8:24 pm#815690ProclaimerParticipantSeptember 18, 2016 at 11:43 am#817257ProclaimerParticipantDoes Hillary Clinton have Parkinson’s or some other illness?
September 18, 2016 at 3:58 pm#817259terrariccaParticipanthi
anyone that believe that Trump is a chosen by God ,as a ignorance of God complex,
Satan says clearly to Jesus that all the power over the earth were given to him and that they were his to give for a small contribution of worship to him
i still don’t understand why people ask those question ,
September 20, 2016 at 9:14 am#817265ProclaimerParticipantGod does indeed place leaders but that doesn’t mean that he places every leader. Read the following in Daniel 4:17:
“This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.”
Daniel 5:21
“And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild *; they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the Most High God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that He appointeth over it whomsoever he will.”God doesn’t appoint every leader and ruler however. See Hosea 8:4
“They have set up kings, but not by me; they have made princes, and I knew it not; of their silver and gold have they made them idols that they may be cut off.”
People can elect and remove leaders without consulting God. It is here that I guess Satan has influence over who rules. I would also hazard a guess that this is way more common than people listening to God on who should be appointed. But God also hears the prayers of his people and we know that if a nation repents then it can be healed. It is possible that Christians in America have prayed fervently about this and God has heard their prayer and has appointed a leader to rule.
My personal view is simply this. If Hillary gets in, then the decline of America will be great. If Trump gets in, then it will be less, perhaps might even stop for a time. But I believe that eventually, America will lose its standing in the world regardless. Appointing the right leader can slow the decline and that could give America more time.
I remember reading somewhere that Nineveh repented because of Jonah’s preaching. But they were eventually judged, so it was only delayed. I doubt there has ever been a nation, kingdom, empire, or civilization that have always repented or always elect the right people to reign over them.
September 20, 2016 at 7:06 pm#817294terrariccaParticipantt8
those are the start of the scriptures ,but God as made his choice 2000 years ago on who will be the everlasting king of his choice this is his son Jesus
all that rhetoric about any other king is so ludicrous
per ups you don’t like God’s choice and so present another ?
September 20, 2016 at 7:52 pm#817304ProclaimerParticipantYou are basically saying that this is ludicrous.
“This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.”
So this scripture must be false to you then.
September 21, 2016 at 7:51 am#817307terrariccaParticipantno those scriptures are the truth ,but the way you apply them is wrong ,
Jesus was the one God sent to us to the last king on earth forever this was proven by God himself,
also Jesus received all the powers on earth and in heaven to bring all remaining yet to be fulfilled to their reality,so that God will be all in allthe nation kings and their god satan can only do what God’s eternel king will allow them to do,until the end or conclusion of this age
September 22, 2016 at 2:29 pm#817324ProclaimerParticipantSo God didn’t choose David to be King?
September 22, 2016 at 3:01 pm#817329terrariccaParticipantyou have it wrong ,the OT is the truth that leads us to the last king of God choice,who is Jesus the only begotten son of God ,
so after Jesus the eternal king no need to choose another ,
the remaining work is now to fill that kingdom of people righteous people,
of course God picked David,this was part of his planed message,
September 22, 2016 at 3:16 pm#817331ProclaimerParticipantSo he picked David and perhaps others, but since Christ has not picked leaders anymore?
September 22, 2016 at 3:40 pm#817334terrariccaParticipantcorrect ,i do understand that some faithful and righteous followers will receive position in Jesus kingdom but not to replace the eternal king of Go
but any chosen one will be an aproved righteous without sin ,a leader in the truth of God ,not his own truth
October 1, 2016 at 5:30 pm#817371ProclaimerParticipantWhere does it say that God no longer raises up leaders of nations since the time of Christ?
October 1, 2016 at 9:07 pm#817375terrariccaParticipantwhere does it say God does ?
October 6, 2016 at 12:04 pm#817389ProclaimerParticipantDaniel 4:17
“This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.”Daniel 5:21
“And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild *; they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the Most High God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that He appointeth over it whomsoever he will.”October 6, 2016 at 1:20 pm#817392terrariccaParticipantdo you find that those two scriptures tells all of God’s ways ?
take the first sentence in Daniel 4;17 what does it say ?
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