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- June 10, 2018 at 7:37 pm#830545Ed JParticipant
Hi Nick,
He gave God back his voice. Do you not think
that is important to God?____________
god bless
Ed JJune 10, 2018 at 7:41 pm#830546NickHassanParticipantHi Ed.
I think I understand.
June 10, 2018 at 7:43 pm#830547Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Are you familiar with the Johnson amendment?
Trump repealed it
June 10, 2018 at 7:46 pm#830549NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
No.
Lyndon Johnson’s?
June 10, 2018 at 8:00 pm#830550NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
So it would make donations to religious groups tax deductible?
You want these groups to become wealthier?
June 10, 2018 at 8:09 pm#830551NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Do you think such religious groups are the voice of God and spread His message correctly?
They are all different and teach different things.
Is God pleased?
June 10, 2018 at 8:25 pm#830553Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
The clergy can now speak politics w/o fear of the irs
June 10, 2018 at 8:26 pm#830554Ed JParticipantHi Ed,
Do you think such religious groups are the voice of God and spread His message correctly?
They are all different and teach different things.
Is God pleased?
Hi Nick,
The systems of Religion and traditions of men make void the word of God. (Col.2:21-22)
June 10, 2018 at 9:01 pm#830555NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Yes they will be involved in politics.
But is that the role of God’s leaders?
June 10, 2018 at 9:10 pm#830557Ed JParticipantHi Ed,
Yes they will be involved in politics.
But is that the role of God’s leaders?
Yes Nick
June 10, 2018 at 9:16 pm#830559NickHassanParticipantHi Ed
Yes the church of the world should continue to be involved with the world.
Give unto Caesar ….
June 19, 2018 at 12:02 am#831094ProclaimerParticipantWe should not only be concerned about leadership, but we as Christians should also pray for our leaders?
A man who ignores the wise instruction of scripture is not being wise. And if he teaches against it, surely he is being foolish, right?
I Timothy 2:1-2
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.I Peter 2:17
Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.Romans 13:1
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.II Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.Proverbs 11:14
For lack of guidance a nation falls, but victory is won through many advisers.Proverbs 21:1
The king’s heart is a stream of water in the hand of the LORD; he turns it wherever he will.June 28, 2018 at 8:19 am#831537ProclaimerParticipantThe secret to why they hate him
Except for a few Republicans with convictions, there really is no difference between Democrats and Republicans in Congress.
You saw Republicans pass an obscene budget—fully funding Planned Parenthood. They gave Democrats almost everything they wanted, punishing Trump in the process. There are Republicans in the deep state. And the deep state is not so deep.
Washington looks like there are two distinct world views colliding. But conservative and liberal are mostly labels for show. There is something deeper going one here.
Why is Trump so hated by both parties? They don’t hate him because of Stormy Daniels, or because they think he is a racist, or because of his tweets. It is a much darker motivation.God used my devotions and reading of John 11—the story of Lazarus—to fully open my eyes. When this understanding came to me, my burden for our president intensified. I knew I had to write this to you so that we could agree together for his safety and for this evil to be exposed.
See if you see anything illuminating in these verses:John 11: 45 Then many of the Jews who had come to Mary, and had seen the things Jesus did, believed in Him. 46 But some of them went away to the Pharisees and told them the things Jesus did. 47 Then the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered a council and said, “What shall we do? For this Man works many signs. 48 If we let Him alone like this, everyone will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and nation.” Do you see it?
Notice this phrase: “the Romans will come and take away both our place and nation.” Their first concern was for their place, not the nation. That is exactly what is happening in Washington. They are more concerned about keeping their place than helping the nation.
That dear friend, is what both Democrats and Republicans are doing—they are fighting to keep their place. Not just in Congress but at the FBI, IRS and many other power centers. All of these groups wanted Hillary to win, because she was the queen of the swamp.Right now you have the proof. Jeff Sessions has the power to end the witch hunt against Trump but he won’t. Mueller’s abuse of power could be called into account but he won’t be. Hillary should be in jail. Obama and his cohorts should be indicted. None of it happens because the politicians must keep their place.
Trump wants to do what works and what is best for America regardless of what side it offends and threatens. It’s called pragmatism. What enrages them is that it’s working. He is winning, and winning, and they are sick of his winning.Once upon a time, a famous preacher and a famous atheist agreed to hold debates across the country. They didn’t tell the audience it was just a money making scheme. They publicly attacked each—took offerings for their causes—and at the end of the night they split the take. That is also what is happening in Washington.
-Barack Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for no reason. Now Trump has brought North and South Korea together. Do you think he will get the Nobel Prize for brokering the most amazing peace since Teddy Roosevelt? Never. Not even his own party will campaign for that.Unemployment is at 3.9%. It is the lowest among blacks and Latinos in recent memory. His approval among likely voters is 51%. Do you think Trump will be praised? Never.
If you as a Christian can’t see the victories Trump is handing the church to have our voices heard, then you are blind. The next miracle is to get our government back and and see true revival. Trump is a bridge to all of that. The hand of God is upon him.
It is time to bombard heaven for the deep state to be exposed. We need to seek God like never before for special protection on Trump, Melania, the children, and the faithful few left in our government. Ask big. Ask now
Ephesians 3: 20 “Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.”Source →
June 28, 2018 at 8:30 am#831538NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
This is not the place for a political speech.
Makes a change from flat earth though.
July 1, 2018 at 8:04 pm#831677ProclaimerParticipantThis is not the place for a political speech.
I prefer scripture than a mere man’s tiny opinion. Please do not be offended. I have no choice if I am to serve God.
Heaven Net is about testing doctrines to see if they are true. We discuss scriptures a lot. Here are some scriptures for your consideration. Of course you may deem these as not good enough for you. That is up to you. But your above opinion is worthless to others and these scriptures have great worth, thus one outcome possible.
I Timothy 2:1-2
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.I Peter 2:17
Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.Romans 13:1
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.As Believers we care about our leaders and discuss such things for the reasons given in these scriptures above.
July 1, 2018 at 8:09 pm#831679NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Is Trump your appointed leader?
July 1, 2018 at 8:43 pm#831684Ed JParticipantHi T8,
Is Trump your appointed leader?
Hi Nick,
He is the appointed Leader of the free-world,
which ensures the freedom of countries like NZ____________
God bless
Ed JJuly 1, 2018 at 9:15 pm#831686NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
All things work together for good for those that love the Lord and live according to his purposes.
Despite their elected choices of leaders at times perhaps?
July 1, 2018 at 10:28 pm#831694ProclaimerParticipantSilly question Nick. Ignorance is not bliss, it is blindness. Sometimes people become so right in their own eyes that they become blind.
The scriptures can renew the mind. But many just reject them too.
Jesus was born the Christ. He is the Lord and the son of the living God.
Nothing is going to change that. Not even a smooth talking serpent.
Eve listened to that serpent who went against God’s word. He was subtle and full of trickery.
July 16, 2018 at 7:32 pm#832451ProclaimerParticipantThis one hits the nail on the head
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