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  • #358560
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:27)
    THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE ABOUT THE KINGDOM COMING,
    THE REAL TRUE KINGDOM:  NOT MAN MADE FANTASY KINGDOM.

    Need to decern, decern, decern, scriptures.
    Or you get a combination soup bowl.

    wakeup.


    your answer is again an opinion ,I have no use for it ;

    either show me scriptures or nothing ,

    or prove me wrong by the truth of God's written word ,


    You want scriptures?

    I give you a **whole chapter**;and dont say its only my combination.

    Zechariah 14:1 Behold, **the day of the LORD cometh**, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
    NOT HAPPENED YET,BUT IS COMING.

    Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
    THIS IS WHEN THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH WILL COME
    INTO JERUSALEM(JER 25:29.)GOD'S LAST PUNISHMENT
    ON ISRAEL.

    Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
    THIS WIL BE THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON.THE ARMIES AGAINST GOD.

    Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
    THIS IS WHEN CHRIST HAS DESTROYED ALL THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS.(REV16:19).JERUSALM WILL BE LANDSCAPED.

    Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the **LORD my God shall come**, **and all the saints with thee**.
    THE SECOND COMING.

    Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass **in that day**, that the light shall *not be clear, nor dark*:

    Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
    IT WILL BE *AS* EVENING.

    Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
    THIS WILL BE THE KINGDOM BEING PREPARED.

    Zechariah 14:9 ***And the LORD shall be king over all the earth**: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
    THE KINGDOM ON EARTH.

    Zechariah 14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
    THE LAND BEING RE FACED.JERUSALEM RENEWED/LANDSCAPED.

    Zechariah 14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
    JERUSALEM WILL BE A CITY OF PEACE.

    Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
    THE ARMIES WILL SUFFER THOSE SICKNESSES.

    Zechariah 14:13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
    THEY WILL FIGHT AGAINST EACH OTHER.

    Zechariah 14:14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
    ALL THE WEALTH OF THE HEATHEN WILL BE GATHERED IN JERUSALEM.

    Zechariah 14:15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
    ALL THE BEASTS THAT ARE USED TO WAR WILL ALSO SUFFER THE SAME SICKNESS. I SAY THEY WILL MELT.
    FOR THEY DONT USE BEAST TO GO TO WAR ANYMORE.
    BUT WAR HARDWARE.(THOSE PEOPLE BACK THEN DONT KNOW).

    Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    AT THE END THEY ALSO WILL ACCEPT THE LORD.

    Zechariah 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
    ANY NATION THAT WILL NOT COME TO WORSHIP;THEY WILL NOT HAVE RAIN.(THERE WILL BE NATIONS OUTSIDE
    STILL; BUT THEIR DOMINION ARE TAKEN AWAY.(DAN 7:12).

    Zechariah 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    EGYPT WILL STILL BE THERE,BUT NO DOMINION:
    THEY WILL ASO HAVE NO RAIN IF THEY DONT COME TO WORSHIP,AND NOT CELEBRATE THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES.

    Zechariah 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    SAME AS ABOVE.

    Zechariah 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
    ALL WILL PUT IN GENEROUSLY.THE WILL BE NO GREED.
    AND SELFISHNESS.

    Zechariah 14:21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be **no more the Canaanite** in the house of the LORD of hosts.
    SOME NEED TO TAKE OF THE POT AND SOME PUT IN.
    MUSLEMS WILL BE NO MORE,BUT TRUE CHRISTIAN PALISTINIANS
    WILL BE THERE ALSO.

    wakeup.

    #358570
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,12:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:27)
    THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE ABOUT THE KINGDOM COMING,
    THE REAL TRUE KINGDOM:  NOT MAN MADE FANTASY KINGDOM.

    Need to decern, decern, decern, scriptures.
    Or you get a combination soup bowl.

    wakeup.


    your answer is again an opinion ,I have no use for it ;

    either show me scriptures or nothing ,

    or prove me wrong by the truth of God's written word ,


    You want scriptures?

    I give you a **whole chapter**;and dont say its only my combination.

    Zechariah 14:1   Behold, **the day of the LORD cometh**, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
    NOT HAPPENED YET,BUT IS COMING.

     Zechariah 14:2   For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
    THIS IS WHEN THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH WILL COME
    INTO JERUSALEM(JER 25:29.)GOD'S LAST PUNISHMENT
    ON ISRAEL.

     Zechariah 14:3   Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
    THIS WIL BE THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON.THE ARMIES AGAINST GOD.

     Zechariah 14:4   And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
    THIS IS WHEN CHRIST HAS DESTROYED ALL THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS.(REV16:19).JERUSALM WILL BE LANDSCAPED.

     Zechariah 14:5   And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the **LORD my God shall come**, **and all the saints with thee**.
    THE SECOND COMING.

     Zechariah 14:6   And it shall come to pass **in that day**, that the light shall *not be clear, nor dark*:

     Zechariah 14:7   But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
    IT WILL BE *AS* EVENING.

     Zechariah 14:8   And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
    THIS WILL BE THE KINGDOM BEING PREPARED.

     Zechariah 14:9   ***And the LORD shall be king over all the earth**: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
    THE KINGDOM ON EARTH.

     Zechariah 14:10   All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
    THE LAND BEING RE FACED.JERUSALEM RENEWED/LANDSCAPED.

     Zechariah 14:11   And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
    JERUSALEM WILL BE A CITY OF PEACE.

     Zechariah 14:12   And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
    THE ARMIES WILL SUFFER THOSE SICKNESSES.

     Zechariah 14:13   And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
    THEY WILL FIGHT AGAINST EACH OTHER.

     Zechariah 14:14   And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
    ALL THE WEALTH OF THE HEATHEN WILL BE GATHERED IN JERUSALEM.

     Zechariah 14:15   And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
    ALL THE BEASTS THAT ARE USED TO WAR WILL ALSO SUFFER THE SAME SICKNESS. I SAY THEY WILL MELT.
    FOR THEY DONT USE BEAST TO GO TO WAR ANYMORE.
    BUT WAR HARDWARE.(THOSE PEOPLE BACK THEN DONT KNOW).

     Zechariah 14:16   And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    AT THE END THEY ALSO WILL ACCEPT THE LORD.

     Zechariah 14:17   And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
    ANY NATION THAT WILL NOT COME TO WORSHIP;THEY WILL NOT HAVE RAIN.(THERE WILL BE NATIONS OUTSIDE
    STILL;  BUT THEIR DOMINION ARE TAKEN AWAY.(DAN 7:12).

     Zechariah 14:18   And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    EGYPT WILL STILL BE THERE,BUT NO DOMINION:
    THEY WILL ASO HAVE NO RAIN IF THEY DONT COME TO WORSHIP,AND NOT CELEBRATE THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES.

     Zechariah 14:19   This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    SAME AS ABOVE.

     Zechariah 14:20   In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
    ALL WILL PUT IN GENEROUSLY.THE WILL BE NO GREED.
    AND SELFISHNESS.

     Zechariah 14:21   Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be **no more the Canaanite** in the house of the LORD of hosts.
    SOME NEED TO TAKE OF THE POT AND SOME PUT IN.
    MUSLEMS WILL BE NO MORE,BUT TRUE CHRISTIAN PALISTINIANS
    WILL BE THERE ALSO.

    wakeup.


    those are no scriptures ;

    these are a composition of your views and you by your comments make them say what they do not say ;

    we done you can go with your deluded mind ;

    Zec 1:1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, the son of Iddo:
    Zec 1:2 “The LORD was very angry with your forefathers.
    Zec 1:3 Therefore tell the people: This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Return to me,’ declares the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will return to you,’ says the LORD Almighty.

    this is related to the return from Babylon

    Zec 2:10 “Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD.

    i wander who this is that that verse talked
    about ??? Christ is it ? yes

    Zec 14:1 A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
    Zec 14:2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

    is this not what happen in 70 ad,? yes ,but wakeup deluded mind does not accept scriptures ;he as no knowledge of history ,in fact he as no scriptural knowledge as well,

    anyone that can not see that you really are ignorant in scriptures deserves your deluded and false concept of scriptures ;and follow your lies,

    #358615
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Lets see who got the short vision here.

    TERRA'S QUOTE:
    those are no scriptures ;UNQUOTE:

    ZECH.14 ARE NO SCRIPTURES?? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
    IS IT NOT IN YOUR BIBLE?

    QUOTE:
    these are a composition of your views and you by your comments make them say what they do not say ;UNQUOTE:

    WHY DONT YOU PUT FORWARD YOUR COMPOSITION,SO WE CAN COMPARE?

    QUOTE:
    we done you can go with your deluded mind ;UNQUOTE:

    BRING FORWARD YOUR BIT;THEN WE WILL SEE WHO HERE IS DELUDED.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 1:1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, the son of Iddo:
    Zec 1:2 “The LORD was very angry with your forefathers.
    Zec 1:3 Therefore tell the people: This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Return to me,’ declares the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will return to you,’ says the LORD Almighty.
    UNQUOTE:

    THAT'S STRAIGHT FORWARD,NO NEED FOR ANY EXPLANATIONS.

    QUOTE:
    this is related to the return from Babylon.UNQUOTE.

    YES, BUT THEY WILL ONLY RETURN UNDER THE RULE OF THE NEXT KING OF PERSIA,NOT UNDER DARIUS.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 2:10 “Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD.
    UNQUOTE:

    AGREE; THIS IS ABOUT THE MESSIAH COMING TO HIS PEOPLE.

    QUOTE:
    i wander who this is that that verse talked about Christ is it ? yes UNQUOTE:

    YES.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 14:1. A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
    Zec 14:2 I will gather *all the nations* to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
    UNQUOTE:

    1.**YOUR PLUNDER WILL BE DEVIDED AMONG YOU**.
    THIS WILL ONLY HAPPEN AT THE COMING WHEN ALL THE GOLD AND SILVER OF THE NATIONS WILL BE GATHERED.
    SEE ZECH.14:14.

    2. I WILL GATHER **ALL NATIONS**TO FIGHT AGAINST JERUSALEM. THIS WILL BE THE LAST PUNISHMENT OF JERUSALEM(JER25:29).
    **ALL NATIONS**/THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH.JER25:9.
    THIS IS A *DUAL* PROPHESY. IT HAPPENED WHEN KING NEB WENT INTO JERUSALEM; AND ALSO WILL HAPPEN IN THE END TIME,WHEN *THE KINGS/FAMILIES OF BABYLON* WILL COME INTO JERUSALEM./LAST PUNISHMENT.(VERSE29).
    SUPPORTED BY ZECH.14:2.12.

    QUOTE:
    is this not what happen in 70 ad,? yes ,but wakeup deluded mind does not accept scriptures ;he as no knowledge of history ,in fact he as no scriptural knowledge as well,
    UNQUOTE:

    YOU CALL ME DELUDED,JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND PROPHECY.YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF PROPHECY
    IS VERY LIMITED, AND HAVE NO ABILITY TO DECERN
    SCRIPTURES, AND PROPHESIES.

    QUOTE:
    anyone that can not see that you really are ignorant in scriptures deserves your deluded and false concept of scriptures ;and follow your lies, UNQUOTE:

    BEFORE YOU CAN SAY ALL THOSE NASTY THINGS ABOUT ME.
    LETS PROOF IT BY YOU COMING OUT WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION. THEN WE CAN SEE WHO IS DELUDED.
    AND WHO IS THE LIAR ON H,NET.

    WAITING FOR YOUR COMPOSITION.

    wakeup.

    #358651
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,06:13)
    Lets see who got the short vision here.

    TERRA'S QUOTE:
    those are no scriptures ;UNQUOTE:

    ZECH.14 ARE NO SCRIPTURES?? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
    IS IT NOT IN YOUR BIBLE?

    QUOTE:
    these are a composition of your views and you by your comments make them say what they do not say ;UNQUOTE:

    WHY DONT YOU PUT FORWARD YOUR COMPOSITION,SO WE CAN COMPARE?

    QUOTE:
    we done you can go with your deluded mind ;UNQUOTE:

    BRING FORWARD YOUR BIT;THEN WE WILL SEE WHO HERE IS DELUDED.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 1:1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, the son of Iddo:
    Zec 1:2 “The LORD was very angry with your forefathers.
    Zec 1:3 Therefore tell the people: This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Return to me,’ declares the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will return to you,’ says the LORD Almighty.
    UNQUOTE:

    THAT'S STRAIGHT FORWARD,NO NEED FOR ANY EXPLANATIONS.

    QUOTE:
    this is related to the return from Babylon.UNQUOTE.

    YES, BUT THEY WILL ONLY RETURN UNDER THE RULE OF THE NEXT KING OF PERSIA,NOT UNDER DARIUS.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 2:10 “Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD.
    UNQUOTE:

    AGREE; THIS IS ABOUT THE MESSIAH COMING TO HIS PEOPLE.

    QUOTE:
    i wander who this is that that verse talked about  Christ is it ? yes UNQUOTE:

    YES.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 14:1. A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
    Zec 14:2 I will gather *all the nations* to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
    UNQUOTE:

    1.**YOUR PLUNDER WILL BE DEVIDED AMONG YOU**.
    THIS WILL ONLY HAPPEN AT THE COMING WHEN ALL THE GOLD AND SILVER OF THE NATIONS WILL BE GATHERED.
    SEE ZECH.14:14.

    2. I WILL GATHER **ALL NATIONS**TO FIGHT AGAINST JERUSALEM. THIS WILL BE THE LAST PUNISHMENT OF JERUSALEM(JER25:29).
    **ALL NATIONS**/THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH.JER25:9.
    THIS IS A *DUAL* PROPHESY. IT HAPPENED WHEN KING NEB WENT INTO JERUSALEM; AND ALSO WILL HAPPEN IN THE END TIME,WHEN *THE KINGS/FAMILIES OF BABYLON* WILL COME INTO JERUSALEM./LAST PUNISHMENT.(VERSE29).
    SUPPORTED BY ZECH.14:2.12.

    QUOTE:
    is this not what happen in 70 ad,? yes ,but wakeup deluded mind does not accept scriptures ;he as no knowledge of history ,in fact he as no scriptural knowledge as well,
    UNQUOTE:

    YOU CALL ME DELUDED,JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND PROPHECY.YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF PROPHECY
    IS VERY LIMITED, AND HAVE NO ABILITY TO DECERN
    SCRIPTURES, AND PROPHESIES.

    QUOTE:
    anyone that can not see that you really are ignorant in scriptures deserves your deluded and false concept of scriptures ;and follow your lies, UNQUOTE:

    BEFORE YOU CAN SAY ALL THOSE NASTY THINGS ABOUT ME.
    LETS PROOF IT BY YOU COMING OUT WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION. THEN WE CAN SEE WHO IS DELUDED.
    AND WHO IS THE LIAR ON H,NET.

    WAITING FOR YOUR COMPOSITION.

    wakeup.


    IF YOU DO NOT LISTEN THE FIRST TIME I TELL YOU ,WHY DO YOU THINK I GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I SAY ,OVER AND OVER ,

    WRONG ;REMEMBER THE TEN VIRGIN 5 WERE WISE BUT 5 WERE FOOLISH ;

    YOU DO NOT WANT MY OIL ,SO BE IT ;BUT THAT WILL BE ALL THE OIL YOU GOING TO GET FROM ME .

    #358653
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,14:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,06:13)
    Lets see who got the short vision here.

    TERRA'S QUOTE:
    those are no scriptures ;UNQUOTE:

    ZECH.14 ARE NO SCRIPTURES?? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
    IS IT NOT IN YOUR BIBLE?

    QUOTE:
    these are a composition of your views and you by your comments make them say what they do not say ;UNQUOTE:

    WHY DONT YOU PUT FORWARD YOUR COMPOSITION,SO WE CAN COMPARE?

    QUOTE:
    we done you can go with your deluded mind ;UNQUOTE:

    BRING FORWARD YOUR BIT;THEN WE WILL SEE WHO HERE IS DELUDED.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 1:1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, the son of Iddo:
    Zec 1:2 “The LORD was very angry with your forefathers.
    Zec 1:3 Therefore tell the people: This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Return to me,’ declares the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will return to you,’ says the LORD Almighty.
    UNQUOTE:

    THAT'S STRAIGHT FORWARD,NO NEED FOR ANY EXPLANATIONS.

    QUOTE:
    this is related to the return from Babylon.UNQUOTE.

    YES, BUT THEY WILL ONLY RETURN UNDER THE RULE OF THE NEXT KING OF PERSIA,NOT UNDER DARIUS.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 2:10 “Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD.
    UNQUOTE:

    AGREE; THIS IS ABOUT THE MESSIAH COMING TO HIS PEOPLE.

    QUOTE:
    i wander who this is that that verse talked about  Christ is it ? yes UNQUOTE:

    YES.

    QUOTE:
    Zec 14:1. A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
    Zec 14:2 I will gather *all the nations* to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
    UNQUOTE:

    1.**YOUR PLUNDER WILL BE DEVIDED AMONG YOU**.
    THIS WILL ONLY HAPPEN AT THE COMING WHEN ALL THE GOLD AND SILVER OF THE NATIONS WILL BE GATHERED.
    SEE ZECH.14:14.

    2. I WILL GATHER **ALL NATIONS**TO FIGHT AGAINST JERUSALEM. THIS WILL BE THE LAST PUNISHMENT OF JERUSALEM(JER25:29).
    **ALL NATIONS**/THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH.JER25:9.
    THIS IS A *DUAL* PROPHESY. IT HAPPENED WHEN KING NEB WENT INTO JERUSALEM; AND ALSO WILL HAPPEN IN THE END TIME,WHEN *THE KINGS/FAMILIES OF BABYLON* WILL COME INTO JERUSALEM./LAST PUNISHMENT.(VERSE29).
    SUPPORTED BY ZECH.14:2.12.

    QUOTE:
    is this not what happen in 70 ad,? yes ,but wakeup deluded mind does not accept scriptures ;he as no knowledge of history ,in fact he as no scriptural knowledge as well,
    UNQUOTE:

    YOU CALL ME DELUDED,JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND PROPHECY.YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF PROPHECY
    IS VERY LIMITED, AND HAVE NO ABILITY TO DECERN
    SCRIPTURES, AND PROPHESIES.

    QUOTE:
    anyone that can not see that you really are ignorant in scriptures deserves your deluded and false concept of scriptures ;and follow your lies, UNQUOTE:

    BEFORE YOU CAN SAY ALL THOSE NASTY THINGS ABOUT ME.
    LETS PROOF IT BY YOU COMING OUT WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION. THEN WE CAN SEE WHO IS DELUDED.
    AND WHO IS THE LIAR ON H,NET.

    WAITING FOR YOUR COMPOSITION.

    wakeup.


    IF YOU DO NOT LISTEN THE FIRST TIME I TELL YOU ,WHY DO YOU THINK I GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I SAY ,OVER AND OVER ,

    WRONG ;REMEMBER THE TEN VIRGIN 5 WERE WISE BUT 5 WERE FOOLISH ;

    YOU DO NOT WANT MY OIL ,SO BE IT ;BUT THAT WILL BE ALL THE OIL YOU GOING TO GET FROM ME .


    Copy and paste zeh.14 with your comment attached
    if you can.So we can compare.

    wakeup.

    #358687
    terraricca
    Participant

    it is useless to talk to you ;you do not know the history of Israel,nor what really happen between 66 and 71 ad ,so unless you learn ,i am not going to do it for you,

    #358689
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2013,10:52)
    it is useless to talk to you ;you do not know the history of Israel,nor what really happen between 66 and 71 ad ,so unless you learn ,i am not going to do it for you,


    The history of israel and the world is in prophecy.
    In your bible.
    Not in some other book that you can trust.

    wakeup.

    #358715
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,06:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2013,10:52)
    it is useless to talk to you ;you do not know the history of Israel,nor what really happen between 66 and 71 ad ,so unless you learn ,i am not going to do it for you,


    The history of israel and the world is in prophecy.
    In your bible.
    Not in some other book that you can trust.

    wakeup.


    YOU GOT THAT WRONG AS WELL

    I START TO WANDER WHERE YOU HAVE STUDY THE SCRIPTURES
    I AM NOW SURE YOU LEARN EVERYTHING BY MEN ;

    #358761
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2013,13:14)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,06:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2013,10:52)
    it is useless to talk to you ;you do not know the history of Israel,nor what really happen between 66 and 71 ad ,so unless you learn ,i am not going to do it for you,


    The history of israel and the world is in prophecy.
    In your bible.
    Not in some other book that you can trust.

    wakeup.


    YOU GOT THAT WRONG AS WELL

    I START TO WANDER WHERE YOU HAVE STUDY THE SCRIPTURES
    I AM NOW SURE YOU LEARN EVERYTHING BY MEN ;


    Terra.

    You can copy and paste.
    Go on;copy zech.14,and write all your interpretations.
    And try to fit in 70ad,if you can.
    Can you or can't you?

    Your 70ad end time theory is flawed.
    That's past,gone,history. Its 1900years old./stale.
    The book of revelation and the prophets is the furure.

    wakeup.

    #358776
    2besee
    Participant

    Zechariah 14 is fulfilled, and still continues on till today.

    First:
    Zech 13:6-7.

    And if one asks him, `What are these wounds on your back?' he will say, `The wounds I received in the house of my friends.'” “Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, against the man who stands next to me,” says the LORD of hosts. “Strike the shepherd, that the sheep may be scattered; I will turn my hand against the little ones.

    In the whole land, says the LORD, two thirds shall be cut off and perish, and one third shall be left alive. And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, and I will answer them. I will say, `They are my people'; and they will say, `The LORD is my God.'”

    Jesus' first coming.
    Next Chapter follows on..


    Zech.14:1-3.

    Behold, a day of the LORD is coming, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in the midst of you. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle.

    Matt 24

    “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down………So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; let him who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house; and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle. And alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a sabbath.

    70AD


    Zech 14:4-5.

    On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives which lies before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley; so that one half of the Mount shall withdraw northward, and the other half southward. And the valley of my mountains shall be stopped up, for the valley of the mountains shall touch the side of it; and you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzzi'ah king of Judah. Then the LORD your God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
     
    John 8:1

    'Jesus, however, went to the Mount of Olives.'

    Matt 21:1

    'When they came near Jerusalem and had reached Bethphage on the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples on ahead and told them, “Go into the village ahead of you. At once you will find a donkey tied up and a colt with it. Untie them, and bring them to me.'

    Matt 24:3

    'While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things take place, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

    Luke 22: 39

    'Then he left and went to the Mount of Olives, as usual. The disciples went with him.'

    Mark 14:32

    'Then they came to a place called Gethsemane, and he told his disciples, “Sit down here while I pray.”


    Zechariah 14:6-7.

    On that day there shall be neither cold nor frost. And there shall be continuous day (it is known to the LORD), not day and not night, for at evening time there shall be light.

    John 8:12

    'Jesus spoke to them again, saying, I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.

    John 12:46

    'I've come into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me won't remain in the darkness'


    Zechariah 14:8-9

    On that day living waters shall flow out from Jerusalem, half of them to the eastern sea and half of them to the western sea; it shall continue in summer as in winter.

    John 4:10

    'Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who is saying to you, 'Please give me a drink,' you would have been the one to ask him, and he would have given you living water.

    John 4:13

    'Jesus answered her, “Everyone who drinks this water will become thirsty again. But whoever drinks the water that I will give him will never become thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become a well of water for him, springing up to eternal life.

    John 7:38

    'The one who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, will have rivers of living water flowing from his heart.


    Zech 14:9-10

    And the LORD will become king over all the earth; on that day the LORD will be one and his name one.

    Matt 21:37

    'Jesus asked them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures,‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This was the Lord’s doing, and it is amazing in our eyes.’ That is why I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce fruit for it.

    John 3:16

    “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his only begotten Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.”

    Acts 13:47  

    'I have made you a light to the gentiles to be the means of salvation to the very ends of the earth.'”


    Zech 14:10-11.

    The whole land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem. But Jerusalem shall remain aloft upon its site from the Gate of Benjamin to the place of the former gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Han'anel to the king's wine presses. And it shall be inhabited, for there shall be no more curse; Jerusalem shall dwell in security.

    John 4:21

    Believe me, dear lady, the hour is coming when you Samaritans will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You don’t know what you’re worshiping. We Jews know what we’re worshiping, because salvation comes from the Jews. Yet the time is coming, and is now here, when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. Indeed, the Father is looking for people like that to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

    Gal 4;25

    'Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arab
    ia and corresponds to present-day Jerusalem, because she is in slavery along with her children. But the heavenly Jerusalem is the free woman, and she is our spiritual mother.'

    Hebrews 12:22

    'Instead, you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, to tens of thousands of angels joyfully gathered together, to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, to a judge who is the God of all, to the spirits of righteous people who have been made perfect, to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better message than Abel’s.'

    #358778
    2besee
    Participant

    Continue that theme on with the rest of Zechariah 14.

    #358783
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Sep. 27 2013,06:31)
    Continue that theme on with the rest of Zechariah 14.


    Thank you 2Besee.

    But try to compare prophesies,
    not just compare words.

    And let our brothers be the judge.

    wakeup.

    #358804
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2013,04:33)

    Quote (2besee @ Sep. 27 2013,06:31)
    Continue that theme on with the rest of Zechariah 14.


    Thank you 2Besee.

    But try to compare prophesies,
    not just compare words.

    And let our brothers be the judge.

    wakeup.


    2bee

    can see more in scriptures than you do ;but this is because he let scriptures teach him ,

    you on the other hand you dictate what God's prophecies should be ;this is the false prophet and antichrist way ;

    #358919
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ Sep. 17 2013,20:45)
    Worldwide devastation from a CME
    Isaiah 24:1-6 Be warned, the Lord is about to strip the earth, split it and turn it upside  down and scatter its inhabitants. Everyone will be affected.
               The earth dries up and withers, it is desecrated by those who live in it. They have broken My Laws and violated My covenant, that is why a curse consumes the earth and its peoples suffer, their numbers dwindle, only a few are left.
               [The Lords Day of vengeance and wrath strikes the earth, punishing all its inhabitants.  Isaiah 63:1-6, Revelation 6:12-17, Habakkuk 3:12]
    Isaiah 24:7-13 Crops fail, the people are shocked and anxious. Their cities are in chaos and their houses shuttered and locked. Nothing but desolation is left in the towns, the bridges and highways are destroyed. So it will be throughout the world, among the nations, as an olive tree is beaten and stripped.
               [Cities and towns will become uninhabitable – no food, power or water and roads impassable. “Suddenly, in a single Day” is mentioned in Isaiah 10:7 & Isaiah 47:9  All the nations of the world face the sun over a 24hr period. A huge coronal mass ejection will strike all the earth in one rotation. Isaiah 30:26a, Malachi 4:1]
    Isaiah 24:14-16a People from the West and the East, acclaim the Lord. In the coasts and islands of the sea, we hear them sing- from the ends of the earth, glorifying the God of Israel.
               [As Isaiah 30:26b says: ‘On that Day, I will save My people’. They will praise Y’hovah for their salvation. Isaiah 66:8.]
    Isaiah 24:16b-20 But, there will be trouble for the earth on the Day that the Lord opens the window of heaven and shakes the earth’s foundation. It will lurch and sway like a drunkard and whoever tries to escape will be caught, like in a trap.
             [There will be worldwide earthquakes. The unrighteous will be punished- no one will escape. Jeremiah 4:23-29]
    Isaiah 24:21-23 On that Day, the Lord will punish the powers in the heavens above and the leaders on the earth below. They will be made prisoners, punished for a long time. The sun and moon will grow pale. God will reign in Jerusalem and will be revealed in His glory to the elders of His people. Reference: REB verses abridged.
                [The sky will be darkened for a while because of the smoke and ash clouds. The Lord’s people will move to and settle in New Israel. The Glory of God will return into the rebuilt Temple. Ezekiel 43:1-9 The elders and leaders will know Him, as in ancient times, with Abraham, Moses and David, etc. Jeremiah 30:21]

    All this is before the Return of Jesus: at that time; He will come on the clouds with His angels, visible to all. He destroys the armies of the Anti Christ on the Great Day of the Sovereign Lord. Rev. 16:14  It is the terrifying and shocking, worldwide Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event, what is described in Isaiah 24
    Note; that there is absolutely no hint of a ‘rapture’ of anyone at this time. The Lords people, righteous Israel, will gather and settle in the new country of Beulah, in all that area promised to Abraham. Isaiah 62:1-5 Jeremiah 23:3-4. Ezekiel 48:1-29
    The survivors of the world’s peoples will organise a one world government, as their leaders have gone. 10 regions will be established, each led by a President. It will not be long before one of them assumes full dictatorial powers. You know the rest of the story!
                                                                                               

    [/I]


    Hi Keras.

    The wrath of God is in the 7trumpets,
    and the 7vials.
    It's good to go ever them once more.

    wakeup.

    #358923
    2besee
    Participant

    Keras,
    Reg your quote above.
    Natural disasters, wars, etc, may worsen or may not. God reveals to some before hand.

    Sin will increase, love will grow cold, and many fall away, and delusion. That is certain.

    And then in the twinkle of an eye the fashion of this world will pass away with fire. Some with God's protection will survive.

    Each of you desire the things of man not the things of God.

    HIS kingdom come.

    #358924
    2besee
    Participant

    If war breaks out and somebody appears who you may call the antichrist or second beast, and then if Jesus comes and stands on the Mt of Olives, and destroys and works miracles, to you he will be the savior, and you will go to him, but it won't be him, it will be an imposter. Do you believe me?

    Jesus said that if they say “Lo here” or “Lo there”, do not go out, do not believe them.

    Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a
    furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer
    will be stubble, and that day that is coming will
    set them on fire,” says the LORD Almighty.
    “Not a root or a branch will be left to them.
    But for you who revere my name, the sun of
    righteousness will rise with healing in its wings.
    And you will go out and leap like calves
    released from the stall. (Malachi 4)

    #359090
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,06:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2013,10:52)
    it is useless to talk to you ;you do not know the history of Israel,nor what really happen between 66 and 71 ad ,so unless you learn ,i am not going to do it for you,


    The history of israel and the world is in prophecy.
    In your bible.
    Not in some other book that you can trust.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    I still wait for an answer of how you can justified by scriptures ;

    that a rejected Israel nation ,that rebelled,against their God and rejected the only begotten son of God ,and that hat God destroyed his temple ,and his people for what they had done to the covenant,of Moses ,and never accepted the new covenant from his son ,and now today have created a men made nation ,democracy,without God ,have their own laws and justice , BUT YOU HAVE MADE THEM THE PIVOT IN GOD'S PLAN ,COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW IS THAT “WICKEDNESS HAS BECOME THE GUIDE OF GOD'S HARM AND SO IS NO LONGER RIGHTEOUSNESS ???

    THIS QUESTION IS THE ONE YOU RUN AWAY FROM

    #359095
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2013,05:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,06:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2013,10:52)
    it is useless to talk to you ;you do not know the history of Israel,nor what really happen between 66 and 71 ad ,so unless you learn ,i am not going to do it for you,


    The history of israel and the world is in prophecy.
    In your bible.
    Not in some other book that you can trust.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    I still wait for an answer of how you can justified by scriptures ;

    that a rejected Israel nation ,that rebelled,against their God and rejected the only begotten son of God ,and that hat God destroyed his temple ,and his people for what they had done to the covenant,of Moses ,and never accepted the new covenant from his son ,and now today have created a men made nation ,democracy,without God ,have their own laws and justice ,  BUT YOU HAVE MADE THEM THE PIVOT IN GOD'S PLAN ,COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW IS THAT “WICKEDNESS HAS BECOME THE GUIDE OF GOD'S HARM AND SO IS NO LONGER RIGHTEOUSNESS ???

    THIS QUESTION IS THE ONE YOU RUN AWAY FROM


    No Terra,I am not running away from that question
    Because I know God's plan.(without any boasting).

    The jews are partly blinded,so the gospel will
    be preached to the gentiles in all the world and
    unto all nations.
    And when the preaching to the gentiles has come to the full,
    God will *come back* to the jews.

    This will be done in the 1000yr reign of Christ.
    The resurrected saints will do the teaching.
    To provoke the jews to jealousy.
    Because they have provoked God to jealousy in
    the past.(in the desert) with their gods.

    wakeup.

    #359104
    2besee
    Participant

    Terraricca and Wakeup, I don't have time to post at the moment, but regarding Israel : Israel is made up of Jew and Gentile today. “There is neither Jew nor Gentile”. So all 'Israel' will be saved (Those who trust in Christ and obey God's commandments).

    God has not rejected those of Jewish blood. The door is open for them, as well as the Gentile.

    The 144000 are Jews from every tribe.

    The Gentiles are the great crowd which 'no man could number'.

    There is no thousand year millennium 'to come'. We are in the day of salvation now. Once the door closes it closes. No future day of salvation and teaching. It is now or never, Jew or Gentile. There is only one way.

    The door closes and the end comes.

    ……….

    Back later.

    #359107
    2besee
    Participant

    As for the nation of Israel, that is for God to know, not us. It will be revealed in its time, not now.

    When they had come together, they asked
    him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the
    kingdom to Israel?” He said to them, “It is
    not for you to know times or seasons that
    the Father has fixed by his own authority. (Acts 1:6-7)

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