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- November 8, 2012 at 9:47 pm#3192742beseeParticipant
The next war will be (with) Iran, and it won't be nice.
November 8, 2012 at 10:03 pm#3192752beseeParticipantWhen will the Killing War in Iran Begin? It Already Has.
“Economic sanctions are, at their core, a war against public health.” –The New England Journal of Medicine
“While campaigns are organized to deter the United States and Israel from acting on threats to launch an air war against Iran, both countries, in league with the European Union (winner of this year’s Nobel Peace Prize) carry on a low-intensity war against Iran that is likely to be causing more human suffering and death than strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities would. This is a war against public health, aimed at the most vulnerable: cancer patients, hemophiliacs, kidney dialysis patients, and those awaiting transplants. Its victims are unseen, dying anonymously in hospitals, not incinerated in spectacular explosions touched off by cruise missiles and bunker buster bombs. But ordinary Iranians who can’t get needed medications are every bit as much victims of war as those blown apart by bombs. And yet, we think, that as long as the bombs don’t rain down, that peace has been preserved. Perhaps it has, in formal terms, but bleeding to death in the crater of a bomb, or bleeding to death because you can’t get hemophilia drugs, is, in either case, death.
“The dangers posed today by such enfeebled, impoverished, and friendless states as Iraq and North Korea are minor indeed”, they wrote in 1999. It might be added that the dangers posed by Iran to the physical safety of US citizens are not only minor but infinitesimally small. Notwithstanding the fevered fantasies of rightwing commentators, Iran has neither the means, nor the required death wish, to strike the United States. Nor Israel, which has the means—an arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons—to wipe Iran off the face of the earth. However, the danger the country poses to the idea of US domination – and hence, to the banks, corporations, and major investors who dominate US policy-making – are admittedly somewhat greater.
The dominant powers have shown that they can inflict enormous pain at remarkably little cost to themselves or the global economy. Indeed, in a matter of months or years whole economies can be devastated…” And with devastated economies, come crumbling healthcare systems and failure to provide for the basic healthcare rights of the population.
We might ask, then, why the United States and European Union, practitioners of economic warfare against Iran, are bent on destroying Iran’s economy, along with its public health system. “Sanctions,” New York Times’ reporter Rick Gladstone writes, have subjected “ordinary Iranians” to “increased deprivations” in order to “punish Iran for enriching uranium that the West suspects is a cover for developing the ability to make nuclear weapons.” In other words, Iran is suspected of having a secret nuclear weapons program, and so must be sanctioned to force it to abandon it.
Contrary to Gladstone, the West doesn’t really believe that Tehran has a secret nuclear weapons program, yet even if we accept it does believe this, the position is indefensible. Why should Iranians be punished for developing a capability that the countries that have imposed sanctions already have?
The reason why, it will be said, is because Iranians are bent on developing nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. Didn’t Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threaten to “wipe Israel off the map”?
Regurgitated regularly by US hawks and Israeli politicians to mobilize support for the bombing of Iran, the claim is demagogic rubbish. Ahmadinejad predicted that Israel as a Zionist state would someday disappear much as South Africa as an apartheid state did. He didn’t threaten the physical destruction of Israel and expressed only the wish that historic Palestine would become a multinational democratic state of Arabs and the Jews whose ancestors arrived in Palestine before Zionist settlers.
No less damaging to the argument that Iranians aspire to take Israel out in a hail of nuclear missiles is the reality that it would take decades for Iran to match Israel’s already formidable nuclear arsenal, if indeed it aspires to. For the foreseeable future, Israel is in a far better position to wipe Iran off the map. And given Israel’s penchant for flexing its US-built military muscle, is far more likely to be the wiper than wipee. Already it has almost wiped an entire people from the map of historic Palestine.
But this is irrelevant, for the premise that the West suspects Iran of developing a nuclear weapons capability is false. To be sure, the mass media endlessly recycle the fiction that the West suspects Iran’s uranium enrichment program is a cover for a nuclear weapons program, but who in the West suspects this? Not high officials of the US state, for they have repeatedly said that there’s no evidence that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program.
The consensus view of the United States’ 16 intelligence agencies is that Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program years ago.”
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November 8, 2012 at 10:06 pm#3192762beseeParticipantIran's Ahmadinejad says anyone stockpiling atom bombs “retarded”
Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:04 GMT
Source: reuters // ReutersBy Trisha Sertori
NUSA DUA, Indonesia, Nov 8 (Reuters) – Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday the age of nuclear deterrence was long gone and any country still stockpiling nuclear weapons was “mentally retarded”.
He again denied Iran was trying to develop nuclear weapons, a day after the re-election victory of U.S. President Barack Obama, for whom Tehran's disputed nuclear programme will be one of the thornier foreign policy issues of his second term.
“The period and era of using nuclear weapons is over … Nuclear bombs are not anymore helpful and those who are stockpiling nuclear weapons, politically they are backward, and they are mentally retarded,” Ahmadinejad told reporters at a forum to promote democracy on the Indonesian island of Bali.
“The Iranian nation is not seeking an atomic bomb, nor do they need to build an atomic bomb … For defending ourselves we do not need a nuclear weapon,” said Ahmadinejad.
He added that representatives of any government or agency could visit the Islamic Republic to verify that it was not developing nuclear weapons.
Iran says it is enriching uranium only for peaceful energy purposes but it restricts access for U.N. nuclear inspectors and concealed some sensitive sites from them in the past.
The West has imposed increasingly harsh and far-reaching sanctions on Iran over suspicions it is trying to design a nuclear weapon in secret. Sanctions include curbs on imports of the OPEC member's oil and on its sources of financing, battering its economy this year and putting Ahmadinejad under pressure.
The hardline conservative president said he was open to talks with Obama on forging peace around the world and called for the dismantling of all U.S. military bases abroad.
Obama's re-election may open an opportunity for new negotiations with Iran on agreeing constraints to its nuclear programme, with sanctions piling economic pressure on its theocratic leaders.
Obama's Republican rival in the presidential election, Mitt Romney, had pledged a more hawkish approach to Iran had he won.
November 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm#319395WakeupParticipantQuote (2besee @ Nov. 09 2012,07:47) The next war will be (with) Iran, and it won't be nice.
Jeremiah 51:11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the VENGEANCE of his temple.Jeremiah 51:28 Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the MEDES, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his DOMINION.
wakeup.
November 11, 2012 at 2:03 am#3197202beseeParticipantHi Wakeup, who are the Medes?
November 11, 2012 at 3:19 am#319747WakeupParticipantQuote (2besee @ Nov. 11 2012,12:03) Hi Wakeup, who are the Medes?
2Beesee.The Medes were the medo/persians, now called IRAN.
We need not to worry about iran at the moment ,because the west has not come in to israel yet,but they will in a few years.Iran will only stand up when their DOME IN ISRAEL WILL BE DESTROYED,BY THE WEST,BUT THERE WAS A SECRET AGREEMENT MADE WITH ISRAEL.
wakeup.
November 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm#320752ProclaimerParticipantThings are heating up now.
Iran is calling for a Muslim retaliation against Israel for the Jewish Gaza conflict.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4307096,00.htmlYes it wouldn't be that surprising if a majow war breaks out here.
If so, it could be hugely significant for bible prophecy.November 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm#320769WakeupParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2012,22:50) Things are heating up now. Iran is calling for a Muslim retaliation against Israel for the Jewish Gaza conflict.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4307096,00.htmlYes it wouldn't be that surprising if a majow war breaks out here.
If so, it could be hugely significant for bible prophecy.
Nothing to worry,its just pushing annoying.
THe west will attack israel first,and the dome destroyed first.wakeup.
November 17, 2012 at 2:02 pm#320770Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 17 2012,23:58) THe west will attack israel first
Hi Wakeup,You better go back and read your bible some more.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 17, 2012 at 2:52 pm#320777WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,00:02) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 17 2012,23:58) THe west will attack israel first
Hi Wakeup,You better go back and read your bible some more.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Why is that Ed.Have you read Daniel11.
HE=KING OF NORTH.verse 29.
Daniel 11:39 Thus shall *HE* do in the most strong holds with a STRANGE GOD, whom HE shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over MANY, and shall DEVIDE the land for gain.(devide and conquer policy).
Daniel 11:40 And at the **TIME OF THE END** shall the king of the SOUTH PUSH at him(KING OF NORTH): and the king of the NORTH shall come against him(SOUTH) like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
Daniel 11:41 He shall enter also into the GLORIOUS LAND(israel), and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
Daniel 11:42 *HE* shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries; and the land of egypt shall not escape.
ONLY 2KINGDOMS MENTIONED IN THE LAST DAYS.
KING OF NORTH AND KING OF SOUTH.
NORTH=EUROPE. SOUTH=MUSLEMS.wakeup.
November 17, 2012 at 3:02 pm#320778Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 18 2012,00:52) Why is that Ed. Have you read Daniel11.
HE=KING OF NORTH.verse 29.
Daniel 11:39 Thus shall *HE* do in the most strong holds with a STRANGE GOD, whom HE shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over MANY, and shall DEVIDE the land for gain.(devide and conquer policy).
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,That is about 'Muhammadin islam', you can see
the connection to the Seven world empires in this thread… (Link)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 18, 2012 at 8:10 pm#320917WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,01:02) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 18 2012,00:52) Why is that Ed. Have you read Daniel11.
HE=KING OF NORTH.verse 29.
Daniel 11:39 Thus shall *HE* do in the most strong holds with a STRANGE GOD, whom HE shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over MANY, and shall DEVIDE the land for gain.(devide and conquer policy).
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,That is about 'Muhammadin islam', you can see
the connection to the Seven world empires in this thread… (Link)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.I have just answered your link.
The beast WAS *BEFORE* JOHN,EVEN BEFORE EGYPT.
THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE WAS HUNDREDS OF YEARS *AFTER* JOHN.
IT DOES NOT WORK BROTHER,WHY WILL YOU NOT SEE.wakeup.
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