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  • #737984
    Wakeup
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    Kerwin.

     

    How can you have the spirit of the Word in you,

    and worship the image of the beast, at the same time?

    You can only worship one master.

    You are exercising hypocrisy; getting ready to desert

    when the time comes to make the choice.

    There are many of such so called christians.

    With false security; acting Godly,but full of hypocrisy inside.

    Blotting out the truth of revelation prophecy and the rest of prophecy,

    and believing they are God’s jewels.

    wakeup. 

     

    wakeup.

    #737985
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Kerwin.

     

    Of course prophesies are given in symbols; so that the wicked can not understand.

    Jesus also spoke in parables so the wicked can not understand.

    They are not for the hypocrites to undertand.

    Blessed is he that read the prophesies of this book.

    For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    You have ignored the testimony of Jesus;and feeling good about it. 

    This is not true worship.

    wakeup.

    #737986
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Kewin.

    Do not consider your robe white and clean.

    It needs washing,to make it white.

    The tribulation will do that for you.

    They are purified;but not with silver,but by affliction.

    The falling away has started,and many having false security,

    will be swallowed up by the flood.

    Except the very elect; unless you are one of them.

    Just to think that you are one of them is scary.

    Many will stand before the Lord with the false prophet’s mark in their right hand;

    because they have ignored the prophesies.

    Their smoke will rise for ever and ever.

     

    wakeup.

    #737988
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Part of JEREMIAH 25.
    There is more to explain,but not for you to undestand the very depth.
    one needs to be on strong meat to understand.

    Jeremiah 25:26
    ***And all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another***,
    ***and all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth***:
    ***and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them***.

    ALL NATIONS SHALL DRINK OF THE CCUP OF THE WRATH OF GOD.

    Jeremiah 25:27
    ***Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts***,
    ***the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more***,
    ***because of the sword which I will send among you***.

    DRINK AND RISE *NO MORE*.SO THAT THEY BE DRUNKEN AND NOT WAKE.JER.51:39.

    Jeremiah 25:28
    ***And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink***,
    ***then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye shall certainly drink***.

    ALL KINGDOMS OF THE EARTH MUST DRINK THEIR MEDICINE.

    Jeremiah 25:29
    ***For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name***,
    ***and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished***:
    ***for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts***.

    A SWORD UPON ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH STARTING FIRST WITH JERUSALEM.

    Jeremiah 25:30
    ***Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them***,
    ***The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation***;
    ***he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout***,
    ***as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth***.

    THE LORD SHALL ROAR FROM ON HIGH.
    THREAD THE GRAPES(THE WICKED), PUT THROUGH THE WINE PRESS.( ARMAGEDDON)REV 14:15–20.

    Jeremiah 25:31
    ***A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth***;
    ***for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations***,
    ***he will plead with all flesh***;
    ***he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD***.

    PLEAD WITH ALL FLESH.PLEAD WITH THE SWORD.

    Jeremiah 25:32
    ***Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation***,
    ***and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth***.

    A WHIRLWIND. NOT A SEA BREES.

    Jeremiah 25:33
    ***And the slain of the LORD shall be AT THAT DAY from one end of the earth***
    ***even unto the other end of the earth***:
    ***they shall not be lamented, neither gathered***,
    ***nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground***.

    THIS IS THE SLAUGHTER AT THAT DAY OF THE LORD,CALLED ARMAGEDDON.

    Jeremiah 25:34
    ***Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes***,
    ***ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished***;
    ***and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel***.

    MANY SEEK THE SHEPHERD’S PROTECTION. WRONG PROTECTION. CHURCH IS THE WRONG PLACE TO GO.

    Jeremiah 25:35
    ***And the shepherds shall have no way to flee***,
    ***nor the principal of the flock to escape***.

    NO WHERE TO FLEE FOR THE FLOCK OF THE SHEPHERDS AS WELL.
    FOR THEY WILL HOLD ON THE SAME DOCTRINE AS THEIR SHEPHERDS.

    Jeremiah 25:36
    ***A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock***,
    ***shall be heard: for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture***.

    THIS MEANS THAT GOD WILL CLOSE DOWN ALL THE CHURCHES. ALL MUST WORSHIP THE FALSE PROPHET ONLY,
    FOR HE AS GOD WILL SIT IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD.2THESS.2

    Jeremiah 25:37
    ***And the peaceable habitations are cut down***
    ***because of the fierce anger of the LORD***.

    PEACE WILL BE TAKEN AWAY.
    FIERCE ANGER OF THE LORD DOES NOT MEAN HAPPY AND GLAD. GOD IS NOT SATISFIED WITH THE QUALITY, CONDITION OF HIS HARVEST.
    THEY NEED TO BE WASHED BY FIRE. FOR THEIR ROBES ARE FILTHY. THEY HAVE WORSHIPPED GOD WITH THEIR LIPS.

    Jeremiah 25:38
    ***He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion***:
    ***for their land is DESOLATE because of the fierceness of the oppressor***,
    ***and because of his fierce anger***.

    GOD’S PATIENCE HAS RUN OUT,HE WILL COME OUT LIKE LION IN ATTACK.
    THE CHRISTIAN LAND IS DESOLATE; SPIRITUALLY DESOLATE. THIS IS THE CHURCH OF THE LEODICIANS.REV.3:14.
    RICH IN GOODS BUT SPRITUALLY DEAD; MISERABLE AND NAKED.
    GO AND BUY SOME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIERE. (THE WORD).

    For some this is not nice to hear; just close your ears,and tear off this page.

    wakeup.

    #737989
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Cammellia.

    If the mark is already enforsed; why can you stil buy and sell?
    The mark is here already; many have taken the mark believing it is for security reasons.
    But not yet enforced as law. It will come when the false prophet will gain supreme power.
    You need to execise your mind now,and get ready,because it will certainly come soon.

    shalom.

    wakeup.

    #738009
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi all.
    I have posted jeremiah 25 on WORTHY CHRISTIAN net,
    And some other sriptures,and it was CONTINUOUSLY blocked.
    Just straight prophesies;what are they hiding?
    What kind of worthy christians are they?
    Hypocrites to the maximum.
    They are there just to keep the flock busy discussing scriptures.
    But not wanting the flock to find the truth.
    They coud be just spies;monitoring the christian world.
    They will not allow anyone to find the truth.
    To stay there for long, one must compromise with their hypocricy.
    I believe they are based in israel.?
    Does anyone know about this worthy crap thing?
    They are worthy to be punished as soon as possible.
    May God not linger,for many are kept in bondage.
    Heaven net is not like that.
    We all are free to speak out our christian doctrines.
    No evil can be hidden from God;he will judge,in his time.
    Woe.. to that den of wolves in sheeps clothing, so called looking after the flock.
    I am very disapointed with some so called christian shepherds,but are beasts in the inside.
    May God bless heaven net.

    wakeup.

    #738014
    Wakeup
    Participant

    I JUST FOUD OUT THROUGH SO CALLED WORTHY CHTISTIAN NET.

    THAT SOME SCRIPTURES ARE HALAL,AND SOME ARE HARAM.

     

    wakeup.

    #738032
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin!

    I read Daniel 11 again.

    Stomped as to what it meant, then came to chapter 31. “Forces from him shall appear and profane the temple and fortress, and shall take away the continual burnt offering. And they shall set up the abomination that makes desolate”, and that is obviously passed. The continual burnt offering was ended thousands of years ago, wasn’t it? And then it goes on to say that “they shall set up the abomination that makes desolate”. Jesus prophesied about this also when he referred to the same ‘abomination that makes desolate’ (let the reader understand) it says.

    Here’s a thought, quoted from Wikipedia. “Peter Bolt, head of New Testament at Moore Theological College, believes that the abomination of desolation in Mark 13 refers to the crucifixion of the Son of God; in other words, Jesus is referring to his own impending death”?

    Or at Bible-hub, the Pulpit commentary states:

    There is a remarkable passage in Josephus (‘Wars of the Jews,’ 4:6), in which he refers to an ancient saying then current, that “Jerusalem would be taken, and the temple be destroyed, when it had been defiled by the hands of Jews themselves.” Now, this literally took place. For while the Roman armies were investing Jerusalem, the Jews within the city were in fierce conflict amongst themselves. And it would seem most probable that our Lord had in his mind, in connection with Daniel’s prophecy, more especially that at Daniel 9:27, the irruption of the army of Zealots and Assassins into the temple, filling the holy place with the dead bodies of their own fellow-citizens. The Jews had invited these marauders to defend them against the army of the Romans; and they, by their outrages against God, were the special cause of the desolation of Jerusalem. Thus, while St. Luke points to the sign from without, namely, the Roman forces surrounding the city, St. Matthew and St. Mark refer to the more terrible sign from within, the “abomination of desolation ” – the abomination that would fill up the measure of their iniquities, and cause the avenging power of Rome to come down upon them and crush them. It was after these two signs – the sign from within and the sign from without – that Jerusalem was laid prostrate. Therefore our Lord proceeds to warn both Jews and Christians alike, that when they saw these signs they should flee unto the mountains – not to the mountains of Judaea, for these were already occupied by the Roman army (Josephus; lib. 3 cap. 12.), but those further off, beyond Judaea. We know from Eusebius (3:15) that the Christians fled to Pella, on the other side of the Jordan. The Jews, on the other hand, as they saw the Roman army approaching nearer, betook themselves to Jerusalem, as to an asylum, thinking that there they would be under the special protection of Jehovah; but there, alas, they were imprisoned and slain.

    Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary etc says similar.

    Daniel speaks about the time of trouble ‘such as never has been since there was a nation until that time”. Jerusalem 70ad?

    It also says, “from the time that the continual burnt offering is taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.’ (31/2 years is also mentioned in Revelations. And, remember in Rev the temple is measured, so the temple had to have been standing, it is clearly past).

    It speaks about ‘the time of the end’ but is that the end of Jerusalem?

    The only problem is that it speaks also about a partial resurrection in 12:2. “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake”. What do you think of that?

    #738033
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    Of course prophesies are given in symbols; so that the wicked can not understand.

    Jesus also spoke in parables so the wicked can not understand.

    Yes, and so translating it according to the sinful nature will lead to disaster and we are told not to be afraid of those that would destroy the body but are unable to destroy our soul.

    If the mark of the beast is literal then some of the wicked could escape destruction if they did not take the mark. Scripture states otherwise as it teaches us those that live that way will not inherit the kingdom.

    If the mark was literal then everyone would know who was of God and was of Satan and that is something I doubt Satan will do as he appears to enjoy placing his people among God’s people.

    #738034
    Camillia
    Participant

    Consider that God said:

    Deuteronomy 11:18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

    Instead of the word of God those who live by the flesh nature have the mark of the beast. The right hand is simply simply the more important.

     

    Yes, agree.

    #738037
    Camillia
    Participant

    If the mark is already enforsed; why can you stil buy and sell?
    The mark is here already; many have taken the mark believing it is for security reasons.
    But not yet enforced as law. It will come when the false prophet will gain supreme power.
    You need to execise your mind now,and get ready,because it will certainly come soon.

     

    Wakeup, can we get to the buying and selling part later? You are way ahead of us.

     

     

    #738041
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi all.
    I have posted jeremiah 25 on WORTHY CHRISTIAN net,
    And some other sriptures,and it was CONTINUOUSLY blocked.
    Just straight prophesies;what are they hiding?
    What kind of worthy christians are they?
    Hypocrites to the maximum.
    They are there just to keep the flock busy discussing scriptures.
    But not wanting the flock to find the truth.
    They coud be just spies;monitoring the christian world.
    They will not allow anyone to find the truth.
    To stay there for long, one must compromise with their hypocricy.
    I believe they are based in israel.?
    Does anyone know about this worthy crap thing?
    They are worthy to be punished as soon as possible.
    May God not linger,for many are kept in bondage.
    Heaven net is not like that.
    We all are free to speak out our christian doctrines.
    No evil can be hidden from God;he will judge,in his time.
    Woe.. to that den of wolves in sheeps clothing, so called looking after the flock.
    I am very disapointed with some so called christian shepherds,but are beasts in the inside.
    May God bless heaven net.

     

    Was that Worthy Forums?

    #738073
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Kerwin.

    Not all have translated the prophesies in error.

    There are some that have been given the spirit of prophecy.

    This is a gift from God. Not to be learned in colleges and universities.

    The reason for the mark is that God is sifting out the true believers from the hypocrites.

    The true believers are willing to give their lives and family for God sake.

    The hypocrites will shy away from the truth, and take the mark to save their own lives.

    By and sell is physical.  In the hand is physical.

     

    wakeup.

    #738078
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Camellia.

    Yes that was worthy forums. I say worthy of punishment.

    Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

    TIME TIMES AND HALF A TIME = (3/HALF YEARS).
    REV.11. JERUSALEM WILL BE TRODDEN DOWN BY THE GENTILES,3/HALF YEARS.
    DURING THIS 3/HALF YEAR THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION WILL BE SET UP(BUILD).
    AND THE FALSE PROPHET WILL SIT IN THAT TEMPLE DECLARING HIMSELF AS GOD.

    Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

    Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

    Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    MANY SHALL BE PURIFIED BY GOING THROUGH THE TRIBULATION. THEY WILL BE GIVEN WHITE ROBES.REV7:9–14.

    Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    FROM THE TIME THAT OUR DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKEN AWAY TO THE ***SETTING UP*** OF THE ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE
    WILL BE 3/HALF YEARS.
    THE DAILY SACRIFICE = OUR DAILY SACRIFICE TO GOD BY NOT GOING AFTER THE LUST OF THE FLESH.
    BY KEEPING OUR SELVES CLEAN, FROM SINNING.NOTHING TO DO WITH ANIMAL SACRIFICE.
    CHRISTIANS SACRIFICE DAILY BY NOT BREAKING THE LAW; WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN OUR HEARTS.
    THAT WILL BE TAKEN AWAY;MEANING ANYTHING IS GOOD, JUST DO WHAT THY WILL.(A GREAT FALLING AWAY FROM GOD).

    Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

    WE NEED TO HOLD ON TO OUR FAITH TO THE 1335TH DAY FOR THAT WOULD BE THE COMING. (45 DAYS ONLY).
    WE WILL BE IN TRIBULATION FOR 3/HALF YEARS PLUS THE 45 DAYS,THEN WE WILL BE TAKEN UP.
    THAT WOULD BE SOON AFTER THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE IN ISRAEL WHERE 7000 DIED. REV.11:13.
    VERSE 14.THEN QUICKLY THE 7TH TRUMPET WILL SOUND; THE COMING.

    wakeup.

     

    #738081
    kerwin
    Participant

    Carmilla,

    There is a remarkable passage in Josephus (‘Wars of the Jews,’ 4:6), in which he refers to an ancient saying then current, that “Jerusalem would be taken, and the temple be destroyed, when it had been defiled by the hands of Jews themselves.”

    Perhaps he is accessing a different text of “war of the Jews” than I am but what I find does not say that in Chapter 4 verse 6. Instead it is written:

    6. However, the rest of the [Jewish] multitude did not lay aside their quarrels with him, when the [foreign] auxiliaries were gone; but they had a perpetual war with Alexander, until he had slain the greatest part of them, and driven the rest into the city Berneselis; and when he had demolished that city, he carried the captives to Jerusalem. Nay, his rage was grown so extravagant, that his barbarity proceeded to the degree of impiety; for when he had ordered eight hundred to be hung upon crosses in the midst of the city, he had the throats of their wives and children cut before their eyes; and these executions he saw as he was drinking and lying down with his concubines. Upon which so deep a surprise seized on the people, that eight thousand of his opposers fled away the very next night, out of all Judea, whose flight was only terminated by Alexander’s death; so at last, though not till late, and with great difficulty, he, by such actions, procured quiet to his kingdom, and left off fighting any more.

    #738083
    kerwin
    Participant

    Carmillia,

    It has more than one book so I probably have the wrong book.

    #738195
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Camillia.

    The temple measured in rev,11; is not the physical temple.
    But the spiritual temple. In other words the worshippers.
    Measure only the temple and the altar.(true worshippers).
    Dont measure the court.(the majority).

    wakeup.

    #738298
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    How do you link Rev 11 with the false prophet sitting in the temple? It seems like Rev 11 is speaking about the temple of stone, whereas Paul is speaking about the temple of the body and the man of sin. Isn’t it two different things?

    Also, the time that the daily sacrifice was taken away would have occurred 2000 years ago, rather than something future don’t you think?

    #738299
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin, OK thanks.

    #738316
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Worthy forums is worthy of punishment? What kind of punishment? Do they ban people?

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