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- August 15, 2014 at 11:50 am#688434WakeupParticipant
t8.
All reliogions must have some common sense or the people will not hear.
wakeup.
August 15, 2014 at 1:12 pm#688496ProclaimerParticipantCommon sense is good. But God hides things from the wicked too. He reveals things in multiple ways to those whose eyes are open.
God reveals things via his prophets.Even his own creation speaks of him and reveals things about him. He even uses creation as signs of the times. When you see this… There will be signs in the heavens… Great earthquakes…
The wise men knew that the messiah was born and came to him to bear gifts. They are commonly called wise men. They followed a star.
August 16, 2014 at 12:54 am#699696ProclaimerParticipantYou seem to blur the line between the Beast and the Harlot woman. While there are many theories about the Beast, I think it is quite feasible that Islam or an Islamic caliphate be the Beast that was slain and was healed. But the woman is more akin to Rome and not Mecca. I think Walid has made some great points, but is under the influence of Babylon too. To me, it is more feasible that the Roman Church and her foundation called the Trinity is Babylon if the woman is a reference to a spiritual harlot that is. If it is purely an economic entity, then New York stands out somewhat. Remember that the Beast hates the woman and wishes to destroy her and we know that Islam is against Catholicism. And it was God who put the desire to hate her in their heart.
And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire. “For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled.
August 16, 2014 at 4:03 am#699803WakeupParticipantI may have not been clear at first.
Babylon consist of the secular; material,politics,trade and commerce; small trade and big trade. And the spirittual.
All believe systems.
The spiritual is riding on all seven heads,starting with Egypt.She temtpts populations with all sorts of goods,
and all kinds of believe systems. The secular of each head are not the same;they change as kingdoms change.
But not the spiritual;she does the same thing since Egypt. Tempting populations with all kinds of believe systems, and also using the material.
To worship the material is also worshipping a false god.
In these last days;those ten kings will hate the secular system, and also the spiritual system.
Because they have a new system in mind.
They destroy the secular and the spiritual system by putting nations against nations, and spending, and more spending.
Mixing up nations into one pot,to create frictions. A nation that is one, is not what they want.
Their are two kinds of people in england, the english christians, and the muslems, and they will not mix.
A government that is afraid of the people is a healthy government.
A people that is afraid of the govenment is in danger.
The british policy has always been the same; observe;divide,and conquer.
The woman temptress will not be anymore,because all will worship one god,and one religion.(the f.proph).
She will lose her job; and she had always thought that she will be riding forever. Rev 18:7. I sit a gueen and am no widow,and shall see no sorrow.
wakeup.
August 16, 2014 at 12:43 pm#699944ProclaimerParticipantBabylon consist of the secular; material,politics,trade and commerce; small trade and big trade. And the spirittual.
All believe systems.
The spiritual is riding on all seven heads,starting with Egypt.She temtpts populations with all sorts of goods,
Seems strange then because your view advocates that the Beast must hate the secular; material, politics, trade and commerce; and all belief systems. Yet the false prophet enables a mark of the beast so that no one can buy or sell. If the Beast hates trade, then why is trading central to the Beast’s mark? And all the other Beasts were in essence the very thing you must conclude that the last Beast hates. Egypt to Rome engaged in trade, politics, commerce, etc. It is partly what made them great Beasts. So how is it then that the last one hates these things?
August 16, 2014 at 2:34 pm#699961WakeupParticipantJeremiah 51:39 In their heat **I will make their feasts**, and **I will make them drunken**, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.
Compare this with rev 11:10.And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them,and make merry,
and shall send gifts to one another; because the two prophets tormented them that dwell upon the earth.And soon(quickly) after is the coming. verse 15. and the seventh angel sounded,and there were great voices in heaven saying:
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ,and He shall reign for ever and ever..This will be their perpetual sleep.They will party,get drunk, and never wake,because of the coming.
That party will be world wide,a special party,may last a week?
In what time of the year does the the world celebrate,with fire works and all?wakeup.
August 16, 2014 at 4:19 pm#699987kerwinParticipantTo all,
If I do not agree with their doctrine if the gospel then their doctrine of end time prophecies is suspect.
August 16, 2014 at 4:32 pm#699988terrariccaParticipantLk 21:8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
the end will come like it did at the flood
August 16, 2014 at 5:17 pm#700004ProclaimerParticipantKerwin, could you decipher your last post? 🙂
August 17, 2014 at 5:44 am#710668kerwinParticipantT8,
I did not think I was using words with a hidden meaning but perhaps I did.
Prophecy of the end time is of secondary importance at best.
It is more important to get the gospel of salvation correct.
Here we have a man claiming he knows of the end times and yet I do not even know what he teaches about the gospel of salvation. In short he has no accreditation as a prophet of God.August 17, 2014 at 7:56 am#710702WakeupParticipantKerwin.
How does a prophet of God has to look like IYO?
wakeup.
August 17, 2014 at 11:04 am#710714kerwinParticipantWakeup,
I am not sure what you are saying though the physical appearance of a prophet are of no matter. What is important is whether he speaks the word of God. A prophet that does not properly understand the gospel of salvation is most likely not a prophet of God.
I think that like most heretics he can be right and part and wrong in part but I am not sure that is true with prophecy. Not heretic gets it all right or they would not be a heretic.
August 17, 2014 at 1:06 pm#710715WakeupParticipantkERWIN.
How can you know,since you dont know prophecy?
wakeup.
August 17, 2014 at 5:16 pm#710824terrariccaParticipantW
IF YOU KNOW THE SCRIPTURES AND THE TRUTH IS IN YOU ,YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROPHECIES WRITTEN IN THEM ,ALSO PROVIDING THAT THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS ALSO IN YOU ,AND THAT SPIRIT IS GIVEN BY GOD AS HE SEE FIT ,NOT AS MEN FEEL OR WANT IT ,FOR THIS REASONS YOU SEE MANY JOKERS COMING UP WITH ALL SORTS OF STORIES THAT REALLY DO NOT MAKE SENSE AT BEST ,
August 18, 2014 at 5:38 pm#718802kerwinParticipantWakeup,
How can you know,since you dont know prophecy?
I do not know but it seems reasonable they would follow the same pattern of error with their prophecy that they engage in with their gospel of salvation.
August 19, 2014 at 9:21 am#727029ProclaimerParticipantProphecy of the end time is of secondary importance at best.
It is more important to get the gospel of salvation correct.Goes without saying.
This is a good measure of how important prophecy is:
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
August 19, 2014 at 9:23 am#727030ProclaimerParticipantWho is preaching a false gospel. Walid Shoebat?
August 19, 2014 at 9:35 am#727046terrariccaParticipantMt 13:36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”
Mt 13:37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man.
Mt 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one,
Mt 13:39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
Mt 13:40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.
Mt 13:41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
Mt 13:42 They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mt 13:43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.ANYONE TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS EXPLANATION OF CHRIST ?
August 19, 2014 at 1:24 pm#727270kerwinParticipantT8,
I have no idea about the doctrine of Walid Shoebat as all I can find out is that he is biased against Muslims in general. He claims to be a former terrorist who has engaged in terrorist exploits but his claims of the later are unsubstantiated. So except for claiming to be a Christian, opposing Islam, and voicing his opinion about prophecy he seems to remain silent about the message of salvation. That is not what Jesus did or does.
August 19, 2014 at 4:13 pm#727450WakeupParticipantKerwin.
You can not judge any prophets, since you dont know prophecy.
First learn prophecy then you can judge any prophets by your knowledge of prophecy.
wakeup.
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