Victor says salvation for all

[bodhitharta]

Analyzing Victor we can see on one hand he condemns all sorts of people but on the other he says don't worry everyone will have salvation. So if that's true why attempt to condemn people now?

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One of the assumptions people make is that if salvation does not come to a man in this life, that person is lost for all eternity. This assumption comes from criminal false teaching, in which the character, reputation and will of God are maligned. Men teach this doctrine, not because it is Biblical, though they claim it is, but to inflict fear, and to gain power over others. It also comes from our being subject to vanity, subject to this world, in which, for the most part, the past and future are locked out. We assume this life is where everything is determined and finalized for all time. Such an assumption is erroneous, and consequently, quite unscriptural.

So Victor in believing this declares that ultimately there is no harm in believing anything.

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I am one. I am a father, a son and a husband. That may make three positions or roles but it does not make me into three persons. So it is with God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Lord (Father) Jesus (Son) Christ or “Anointed One” (Holy Spirit).

So Jesus is saying that God did not SEND Jesus but sent HIMSELF as a son of HIMSELF and noyt HIMSELF. Victor believes that he can send himself somewhere but when he gets there he can say it is not I victor but victors son? Foolish, really foolish but Prophecy nonetheless

But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says: “ I will provoke you to jealousy by those who are not a nation,I will move you to anger by a foolish nation.”
Romans 10:18-20

Then Paul writes:

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CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE TO BELIEVING THIS DOCTRINE: BELIEVING THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST ARE ONE AND THE SAME ELIMINATES MUCH CONFUSION AND IF THERE ARE TWO OR THREE PERSONS, LET THEM SPEAK AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS SUCH. IF THEY DON'T, TAKE IT THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. WHO BUT A TRINITARIAN CAN CONDEMN YOU? LET HIM GO ON EXPLAINING THREE PERSONS IN ONE.

Let you go on explaining two persons in one but at least you have shown progress now one more to Go and you will find God.

Paul cohen writes from the article: The False and Misleading Gospel of “Accepting” Jesus Christ

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So where is Graham's error? Contrary to what you think, he is the one that preaches salvation by works, a work initiated by the will of man, and the flesh, that of “accepting” Jesus Christ as your “personal” Savior. Let us be clear about this: It is not man who “accepts” God, but God Who chooses, draws, and saves those whom He wills, by His mercy and grace. It has nothing to do whatsoever with anyone ever accepting Him. Those who think to have something from God in that manner have only that which is manufactured by religion and flesh.

Do you see? why is Paul and Victor even debating anyone when they claim two things 1. All will be saved and 2. God chooses and saves whom he wills, by his mercy and grace.

Yet these same people condemn Islam which condemns their own point that came from their OWN MOUTH

1. All will be saved and 2. God chooses and saves whom he wills, by his mercy and grace.

They even say: “It has nothing to do whatsoever with anyone ever accepting Him.”

Victor and Paul are essentially saying that God chooses to save everyone no matter what, They say they may have to go through some trials or tribulation either now or the hereafter but essentally all will be saved at some time no matter what they believe if that is true why would they take the time to condemn the beliefs of others when according to their own teachings it would not be the fault of the person what they “could” believe in nor in the end would it matter.

They are preaching a two-faced message and they should agree to consider therms of our agreement in which they should publicly conced on their site how they are in ERROR

[Baker]

bodhitharta

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One of the assumptions people make is that if salvation does not come to a man in this life, that person is lost for all eternity. This assumption comes from criminal false teaching, in which the character, reputation and will of God are maligned. Men teach this doctrine, not because it is Biblical, though they claim it is, but to inflict fear, and to gain power over others. It also comes from our being subject to vanity, subject to this world, in which, for the most part, the past and future are locked out. We assume this life is where everything is determined and finalized for all time. Such an assumption is erroneous, and consequently, quite unscriptural.
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Victor is correct in what he said here, in the millennium, all will be resurrected.

1Cr 15:22   For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.  

Act 24:15   And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.  

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I am one. I am a father, a son and a husband. That may make three positions or roles but it does not make me into three persons. So it is with God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Lord (Father) Jesus (Son) Christ or “Anointed One” (Holy Spirit).
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This I do not agree with; nowhere in the bible will you find that the “Holy Spirit” is called “God”.
It is always “the Spirit “OF” God”, or, God's “Holy” Spirit. This “spirit” that is being referred to here is the Mind of God. God's Mind/Spirit is holy, because God is holy.
Jesus is the “Anointed” one, the “Messiah”, the “Christ”; but he is not the “holy spirit”.

The spirit/mind of Christ, and the Spirit/Mind of the Father are “one”, nowhere does it say, they are the “same”.
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So where is Graham's error? Contrary to what you think, he is the one that preaches salvation by works, a work initiated by the will of man, and the flesh, that of “accepting” Jesus Christ as your “personal” Savior. Let us be clear about this: It is not man who “accepts” God, but God Who chooses, draws, and saves those whom He wills, by His mercy and grace. It has nothing to do whatsoever with anyone ever accepting Him. Those who think to have something from God in that manner have only that which is manufactured by religion and flesh.
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This is not correct either; God is no respecter of person.

Eze 33:11   Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

This is what Peter had to say.

Act 3:23   And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.    

This “is” speaking of the millennium, “IF”, during the time given to every body, you “WILL” not listen, you will die again for ever. Notice, it says “WILL NOT” hear, it is not a matter of “can not” hear.

Georg

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bodhitharta nowhere in the bible will you find that the “Holy Spirit” is called “God”. Georg

Hi Georg,

Take a look at Acts 5:4 and Luke 1:35!
And also John 4:24 for that matter!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (Baker @ Dec. 08 2010,06:21) bodhitharta nowhere in the bible will you find that the “Holy Spirit” is called “God”. Georg Hi Georg, Take a look at Acts 5:4 and Luke 1:35! And also John 4:24 for that matter! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

I hope ED answered the question for you, those were excellent verses he pointed out.

[Baker]

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Quote (Baker @ Dec. 08 2010,06:21) bodhitharta nowhere in the bible will you find that the “Holy Spirit” is called “God”. Georg Hi Georg, Take a look at Acts 5:4 and Luke 1:35! And also John 4:24 for that matter! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed and bodhitharta

Act 5:4   Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.  

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Luk 1:35   And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.  

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Jhn 4:24   God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.  

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Where in these scriptures is the Holy spirit called God?

Acts 5:4, does it not say, thou hast lied unto God?

Luke 1:35, the Holy Ghost (Spirit) shall come upon the; whose Spirit was it for Jesus to be called the son “OF GOD”?

Jhn 4:24, God is a spirit, that is true; the question was; “show me a scripture were the Holy Spirit is called God” like in, “God the Holy Spirit”.

Georg

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 08 2010,11:13) Quote (Baker @ Dec. 08 2010,06:21) bodhitharta nowhere in the bible will you find that the “Holy Spirit” is called “God”. Georg Hi Georg, Take a look at Acts 5:4 and Luke 1:35! And also John 4:24 for that matter! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed and bodhitharta Act 5:4   Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.    ? Luk 1:35   And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.    ? Jhn 4:24   God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.   ? ? ? Where in these scriptures is the Holy spirit called God? Acts 5:4, does it not say, thou hast lied unto God? Luke 1:35, the Holy Ghost (Spirit) shall come upon the; whose Spirit was it for Jesus to be called the son “OF GOD”? Jhn 4:24, God is a spirit, that is true; the question was; “show me a scripture were the Holy Spirit is called God” like in, “God the Holy Spirit”. Georg

ED was completely right in providing these scriptures.

God is a Spirit, would you disagree that God is a HOLY SPIRIT can God be any other kind of Spirit?

But ED goes deeper than that by using verse Luke 1:35 He is showing the equation of The Holy Ghost showing this HOLY Ghost was his Father this same Holy Spirit was called THE HIGHEST. So the HIGHEST HOLY SPIRIT=GOD

ED is right on this so grow from it

[Ed J]

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Ed and bodhitharta Where in these scriptures is the Holy spirit called God? Jhn 4:24, God is a spirit, that is true; the question was; “show me a scripture were the Holy Spirit is called God” like in, “God the Holy Spirit”. Georg

Hi Georg,

Lev.11:45: For I(JEHOVAH=69) the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall there-
fore be holy, for “I Holy“=69.
John 4:24 GOD is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

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Ed and bodhitharta Where in these scriptures is the Holy spirit called God? Luk 1:35   And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. Georg

Hi Georg,

Luke 1:35 is pretty self explanatory; No?

What does the combination of Eph.4:6 combined with Matt.1:18, Matt.1:20 and Luke 1:35 say to you?
Matt.1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused
to Joseph, before they came (consummated) together, she was found with child of the HolySpirit.
Matt.1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto
him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:
for that which is conceived in her is of the HolySpirit. (Son of the HolySpirit = Son of God)
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The HolySpirit shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing(Jesus) which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

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Ed and bodhitharta Where in these scriptures is the Holy spirit called God? Acts 5:4, does it not say, thou hast lied unto God? Georg

Hi Georg,

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias,
why hath Satan filled thine heart
to lie to the HolySpirit,
and to keep back part of the price of the land?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Baker]

Ed

Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit?
Acts 13:30 “But God raised him from the dead.”
So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit?
Rom. 8:11 “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”
It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. God has a spirit; Christ has a spirit; Paul had a spirit; I have a spirit; you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; we call it a mind. You never heard any one say, are you out of your spirit? Or have you lost your spirit? Whether we call it spirit or mind, its all the same; the difference is God’s Spirit is Holy, ours is not.

May I also bring to your attention that Paul’s letters, Peter’s and John’s, all start with, “Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ”, never a mentioning of the “Holy Spirit.” If I was the Holy Spirit, I would feel left out, wouldn’t you?
Paul always gives thanks to the Father.
Rom. 1:8 “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all…”
1 Cor. 1:4 “I thank my God always on your behalf…”
Phil. 1:3 “I thank my God upon every remembrance of you.”
Col. 1:3 “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…”
1Thes. 1:2 “We give thanks to God always for you all…”
My point is this; considering what the Holy Spirit does for us, would he not deserve some thanks too?
John says, if we abide in the doctrine of Christ we have both, the father and the Son; should we not have all three?
2 John 9 “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.”

Why does Paul say, there is a “spirit” in man?, 1 Cor. 2:11, because it is the only “invisible” part of man.

So, “whose” Holy Spirit do you think Ananias lied to?

Georg

[Ed J]

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Ed Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit? Acts 13:30  “But God raised him from the dead.” So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit? Rom. 8:11  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”   It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. Georg

Hi Georg,

What contradiction?

HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

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Ed I have a spirit; you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; we call it a mind. You never heard any one say, are you out of your spirit? Or have you lost your spirit? Whether we call it spirit or mind, its all the same; the difference is God’s Spirit is Holy, ours is not. Georg

Hi Georg,

Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

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Ed Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit? Acts 13:30  “But God raised him from the dead.” So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit? Rom. 8:11  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”   It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. God has a spirit; Christ has a spirit; Paul had a spirit; I have a spirit; you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; we call it a mind. You never heard any one say, are you out of your spirit? Or have you lost your spirit? Whether we call it spirit or mind, its all the same; the difference is God’s Spirit is Holy, ours is not. May I also bring to your attention that Paul’s letters, Peter’s and John’s, all start with, “Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ”, never a mentioning of the “Holy Spirit.” If I was the Holy Spirit, I would feel left out, wouldn’t you? Paul always gives thanks to the Father. Rom. 1:8  “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all…” 1 Cor. 1:4  “I thank my God always on your behalf…” Phil. 1:3  “I thank my God upon every remembrance of you.” Col. 1:3  “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…” 1Thes. 1:2  “We give thanks to God always for you all…” My point is this; considering what the Holy Spirit does for us, would he not deserve some thanks too? John says, if we abide in the doctrine of Christ we have both, the father and the Son; should we not have all three? 2 John 9  “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.” Why does Paul say, there is a “spirit” in man?, 1 Cor. 2:11, because it is the only “invisible” part of man. So, “whose” Holy Spirit do you think Ananias lied to? Georg

It appears you are actually agreeing with ED and me because you are saying that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God which is God, Right?

You are not saying that Jesus is God, right?

[Baker]

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Quote (Baker @ Dec. 09 2010,11:16) Ed Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit? Acts 13:30  “But God raised him from the dead.” So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit? Rom. 8:11  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”   It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. Georg Hi Georg, What contradiction? HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here) Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed

No, the Father is God, his mind is the Holy Mind/Spirit.

I noticed, as usual, you have ignored all the other scriptures I gave you; some people never change.

Georg

[Baker]

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Quote (Baker @ Dec. 09 2010,11:16) Ed Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit? Acts 13:30  “But God raised him from the dead.” So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit? Rom. 8:11  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”   It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. God has a spirit; Christ has a spirit; Paul had a spirit; I have a spirit; you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; we call it a mind. You never heard any one say, are you out of your spirit? Or have you lost your spirit? Whether we call it spirit or mind, its all the same; the difference is God’s Spirit is Holy, ours is not. May I also bring to your attention that Paul’s letters, Peter’s and John’s, all start with, “Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ”, never a mentioning of the “Holy Spirit.” If I was the Holy Spirit, I would feel left out, wouldn’t you? Paul always gives thanks to the Father. Rom. 1:8  “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all…” 1 Cor. 1:4  “I thank my God always on your behalf…” Phil. 1:3  “I thank my God upon every remembrance of you.” Col. 1:3  “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…” 1Thes. 1:2  “We give thanks to God always for you all…” My point is this; considering what the Holy Spirit does for us, would he not deserve some thanks too? John says, if we abide in the doctrine of Christ we have both, the father and the Son; should we not have all three? 2 John 9  “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.” Why does Paul say, there is a “spirit” in man?, 1 Cor. 2:11, because it is the only “invisible” part of man. So, “whose” Holy Spirit do you think Ananias lied to? Georg It appears you are actually agreeing with ED and me because you are saying that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God which is God, Right? You are not saying that Jesus is God, right?

bodhitharta

I have never said that Jesus is God, and yes, the Holy Spirit is the mind of God.

Georg

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2010,13:48) Quote (Baker @ Dec. 09 2010,11:16) Ed Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit? Acts 13:30  “But God raised him from the dead.” So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit? Rom. 8:11  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”   It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. Georg Hi Georg, What contradiction? HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here) Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed No, the Father is God, his mind is the Holy Mind/Spirit. I noticed, as usual, you have ignored all the other scriptures I gave you; some people never change. Georg

Hi Georg,

You saying no doesn't change the facts!
And those Scriptures do not discount
the ones you seem to reject either.

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 10 2010,06:44)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2010,14:38) Quote (Baker @ Dec. 09 2010,11:16) Ed Let me ask you this, who raised up Jesus from the dead; God, meaning the Father, or the Spirit? Acts 13:30  “But God raised him from the dead.” So is Paul contradicting himself when he says in Romans it was the Spirit? Rom. 8:11  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”   It was the Spirit “OF” God that raised up Jesus, not another person. God has a spirit; Christ has a spirit; Paul had a spirit; I have a spirit; you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; we call it a mind. You never heard any one say, are you out of your spirit? Or have you lost your spirit? Whether we call it spirit or mind, its all the same; the difference is God’s Spirit is Holy, ours is not. May I also bring to your attention that Paul’s letters, Peter’s and John’s, all start with, “Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ”, never a mentioning of the “Holy Spirit.” If I was the Holy Spirit, I would feel left out, wouldn’t you? Paul always gives thanks to the Father. Rom. 1:8  “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all…” 1 Cor. 1:4  “I thank my God always on your behalf…” Phil. 1:3  “I thank my God upon every remembrance of you.” Col. 1:3  “We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…” 1Thes. 1:2  “We give thanks to God always for you all…” My point is this; considering what the Holy Spirit does for us, would he not deserve some thanks too? John says, if we abide in the doctrine of Christ we have both, the father and the Son; should we not have all three? 2 John 9  “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.” Why does Paul say, there is a “spirit” in man?, 1 Cor. 2:11, because it is the only “invisible” part of man. So, “whose” Holy Spirit do you think Ananias lied to? Georg It appears you are actually agreeing with ED and me because you are saying that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God which is God, Right? You are not saying that Jesus is God, right? bodhitharta I have never said that Jesus is God, and yes, the Holy Spirit is the mind of God. Georg

I have to say ED is right because think about it you are saying the HOLY Spirit is the Mind of God so how is that not God HIMSELF when he says.

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8-10

Isn't HIS ways and HIS thoughts “HIM”? You see my point?

He is saying HIS “Thoughts” he is not saying HIS Holy Spirits thoughts so these thoughts are of HIM.

God is THE HOLY SPIRIT but also let me state that angels are Holy too and they are also spirits. So the difference is The Holy Spirit of God is the HOLY of Holies whereas holy spirits also exist

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