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    Wakeup
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    2 Corinthians 4:3 But if *our gospel be hid*, **it is hid to them that are lost**:

    2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath **blinded the minds of them which believe not**,
    lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    who is the image of God, **should shine unto them**.

    Amen.

    wakeup.

    #358567
    Spock
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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 24 2013,16:06)
    Most of these doctrines of demons mimic the language of the Bible, like you using Ancient of Days in your quote. The Mormon Bible for example is written in King James English style when that dialect was not even spoken any more. The sole purpose is to sound like the Bible, but include popular ideas that appease men so that men replace scripture for their doctrines and texts. It is deception to draw you away from the truth that never changes.


    t8, again, not working, Jesus already answered your accusations. Scripture worshipers were discredited by the facts of Jesus' life and the truth of his ministry.

    Frankly, the Hebrews convoluted story mimics a lot of other ideas from older religions. Unlike the Bible, the UB is consistent, it expands on the truth of our friendly God who oversees a carefully administered universe.

    “The Kingdom of Heaven is within you”

    Colter

    #358568
    Spock
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,21:42)
    2 Corinthians 4:3   But if *our gospel be hid*, **it is hid to them that are lost**:

     2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath **blinded the minds of them which believe not**,
    lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    who is the image of God, **should shine unto them**.

    Amen.

    wakeup.


    It is/was racial, religious and national pride that blocks the Jews and others. Paul was a clever corrupter of the original gospel, his personal opinions mean nothing to me.

    Frankly Wakeup, it us people like you who stand as the greatest hindrance to salvation for contemporary man as your fruit loop doctrines of the double mined, sadistic God, push people away from the truth of our friendly, loving Heavenly Father.

    God does not both search for his lost sheep while simultaneously blinding them from himself. You need to reboot and start over on a solid foundation.

    Colter

    #358569
    Spock
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    (2083.1) 195:9.5 The modern age will refuse to accept a religion which is inconsistent with facts and out of harmony with its highest conceptions of truth, beauty, and goodness. The hour is striking for a rediscovery of the true and original foundations of present-day distorted and compromised Christianity — the real life and teachings of Jesus.

    (2017.2) 188:4.7 Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

    (2017.3) 188:4.8 When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

    (2017.4) 188:4.9 All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. Jesus taught that service to one’s fellows is the highest concept of the brotherhood of spirit believers. Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God. The believer’s chief concern should not be the selfish desire for personal salvation but rather the unselfish urge to love and, therefore, serve one’s fellows even as Jesus loved and served mortal men.

    (2017.5) 188:4.10 Neither do genuine believers trouble themselves so much about the future punishment of sin. The real believer is only concerned about present separation from God. True, wise fathers may chasten their sons, but they do all this in love and for corrective purposes. They do not punish in anger, neither do they chastise in retribution.

    (2017.6) 188:4.11 Even if God were the stern and legal monarch of a universe in which justice ruled supreme, he certainly would not be satisfied with the childish scheme of substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender.

    Colter

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