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Isaiah ch19
24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.
Many Christians believe that the earth will be melted down at the 2nd coming and God will create a new heavens & earth either at Christs actual appearing, or very quickly after it.
If this melting and creating of a new earth at the 2nd coming doctrine were true, then how can this prophecy come to pass?
Remembering that these other countries are Muslim countries…
Does anybody holding that doctrine care to explain?
Also, those who say that the coming millennial kingdom has already come, how do you explain this prophecy considering that all three countries even today still reject Christ?
How do you explain this prophecy then?
Those of you who say that this will happen after Christ returns and sets up a worldly kingdom for flesh Israel to return to, whilst being taught by the resurrected saints (who are now spirit creatures like the angels) who in turn go out into the world to teach the survivors of the wrath of God and their children (the heathen), and earth has not yet been remade along with the heavens…yet… well…
I honestly can't think of any argument against that belief which would clash with this prophecy unlike the other beliefs!!
Can anybody else?……
Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 21 2013,20:34) Isaiah ch19
24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.
Many Christians believe that the earth will be melted down at the 2nd coming and God will create a new heavens & earth either at Christs actual appearing, or very quickly after it.
If this melting and creating of a new earth at the 2nd coming doctrine were true, then how can this prophecy come to pass?
Remembering that these other countries are Muslim countries…
Does anybody holding that doctrine care to explain?
Also, those who say that the coming millennial kingdom has already come, how do you explain this prophecy considering that all three countries even today still reject Christ?
How do you explain this prophecy then?
Those of you who say that this will happen after Christ returns and sets up a worldly kingdom for flesh Israel to return to, whilst being taught by the resurrected saints (who are now spirit creatures like the angels) who in turn go out into the world to teach the survivors of the wrath of God and their children (the heathen), and earth has not yet been remade along with the heavens…yet… well…
I honestly can't think of any argument against that belief which would clash with this prophecy unlike the other beliefs!!
Can anybody else?……
Devo.You hit the nail on the head;
what we need is; ears to hear.
And eyes to see.wakeup.
Don't know anything about that.
All I know is right now, Christians in Egypt need our prayers.
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,23:24) Don't know anything about that. All I know is right now, Christians in Egypt need our prayers.
T8.Thats terrible indeed,but all orchestrated
by satan and his servants the west.
Christians are his greatest enemy,especially the
true worshippers. This is just the beginning,it will spread
in all the earth.The Lord is our sanctuary.Thus said the Lord of host,behold,evil shall go forth from nation to nation,and a great whirl wind shall be raised
up on the coasts of the earth.The christian land is desolate.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,21:30) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 21 2013,20:34) Isaiah ch19
24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.
Many Christians believe that the earth will be melted down at the 2nd coming and God will create a new heavens & earth either at Christs actual appearing, or very quickly after it.
If this melting and creating of a new earth at the 2nd coming doctrine were true, then how can this prophecy come to pass?
Remembering that these other countries are Muslim countries…
Does anybody holding that doctrine care to explain?
Also, those who say that the coming millennial kingdom has already come, how do you explain this prophecy considering that all three countries even today still reject Christ?
How do you explain this prophecy then?
Those of you who say that this will happen after Christ returns and sets up a worldly kingdom for flesh Israel to return to, whilst being taught by the resurrected saints (who are now spirit creatures like the angels) who in turn go out into the world to teach the survivors of the wrath of God and their children (the heathen), and earth has not yet been remade along with the heavens…yet… well…
I honestly can't think of any argument against that belief which would clash with this prophecy unlike the other beliefs!!
Can anybody else?……
Devo.You hit the nail on the head;
what we need is; ears to hear.
And eyes to see.wakeup.
Thanks Wakeup,Everybody needs to forget their doctrines and look honestly & logically with their OWN eyes at the prophecies, not through the eyes of their teachers, these doctrine makers riding high on the waves of worldly success, and then they might just begin to start seeing.
A lot of those doctrines out there have absolutely no relation to the realities of the real world events unfolding before all our eyes.
This is not a mockery, it is a pleading….times almost up, please wake up people…please…if not for your own sakes…then for your childrens sakes…they need good counsel grounded in truth and they need it yesterday!
devo
Isa 19:22 The LORD will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the LORD, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.
Isa 19:25 The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”wen do you think this was/will be accomplished
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,23:24) Don't know anything about that. All I know is right now, Christians in Egypt need our prayers.
Hi T8,Well now that you have seen it, then use your logic and relate this prophecy to the world and try and place it's likely fulfilment considering God has stated that the great falling away comes before Christ comes.
And since we are seeing the great falling away taking place for some time now, this alone makes it impossible to happen before the 2nd coming, for those nations including Israel all reject Christ today still.
There are other prophecies that relate to this one too…
And the peoples of these nations are all about to perish UNTIL Christ comes to save those remnants!!!That's post-coming not pre-coming.
I have seen your debates and your logic used in the many science v's God type debates and admire your knowledge and skill in those fields, just use that same logic for this field and i'm sure you'll see it for yourself.
And yes, we should all be praying for the persecuted everywhere I agree.
Cheers T8.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2013,12:35) devo Isa 19:22 The LORD will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the LORD, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.
Isa 19:25 The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”wen do you think this was/will be accomplished
Hi Terra,Hope you're feeling well today…
Day by day I understand!
But I hope today is a 'good day' for you…Brother, the answer is in the same chapter…
Isaiah ch19
3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.Because on a national level Egypt rejects Christ as Lord and King, they will not find the answers to their growing problems, they will seek in all the wrong places
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
This ruler will be the false prophet, remember how he attacks Egypt?
And here is when it will be accomplished, remember, this is all a build up leading to this event:
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
Christ delivers them when He comes..
Remember…'and many nations will join with the Lord in that day
This is my understanding on the matter Terra.
Thanks brotherQuote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2013,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2013,12:35) devo Isa 19:22 The LORD will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the LORD, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.
Isa 19:25 The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”wen do you think this was/will be accomplished
Hi Terra,Hope you're feeling well today…
Day by day I understand!
But I hope today is a 'good day' for you…Brother, the answer is in the same chapter…
Isaiah ch19
3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.Because on a national level Egypt rejects Christ as Lord and King, they will not find the answers to their growing problems, they will seek in all the wrong places
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
This ruler will be the false prophet, remember how he attacks Egypt?
And here is when it will be accomplished, remember, this is all a build up leading to this event:
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
Christ delivers them when He comes..
Remember…'and many nations will join with the Lord in that day
This is my understanding on the matter Terra.
Thanks brother
Devo,Doing ok ,
As for the beginning of the chap 19
It seems to condemn Egypt but at the end verse 25 it seems God bless them ,rightQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2013,15:10) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2013,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2013,12:35) devo Isa 19:22 The LORD will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the LORD, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.
Isa 19:25 The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”wen do you think this was/will be accomplished
Hi Terra,Hope you're feeling well today…
Day by day I understand!
But I hope today is a 'good day' for you…Brother, the answer is in the same chapter…
Isaiah ch19
3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.Because on a national level Egypt rejects Christ as Lord and King, they will not find the answers to their growing problems, they will seek in all the wrong places
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
This ruler will be the false prophet, remember how he attacks Egypt?
And here is when it will be accomplished, remember, this is all a build up leading to this event:
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
Christ delivers them when He comes..
Remember…'and many nations will join with the Lord in that day
This is my understanding on the matter Terra.
Thanks brother
Devo,Doing ok ,
As for the beginning of the chap 19
It seems to condemn Egypt but at the end verse 25 it seems God bless them ,right
Hi Terra,That's right, you got it, after Egypt goes through all those tribulations, her end result will be blessings & acceptance from God becoming a third part with Israel.
Like how Israel always got punished to correct them before God would bless them again.
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