Understanding scripture

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  • #362518
    terraricca
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    SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I WAS READING AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES,

    1) TO WHOM AND FOR WHOM WHERE THE SCRIPTURES WRITTEN ???

    2) WHY DID GOD USE MEN PROPHETS TO DEAL WITH MEN IN GENERAL ???

    3) WHY DID IT TAKES SO LONG TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL ???

    4) WHY DID HE HAS TO SEND HIS SON ,HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE FOR MEN ???

    5) WHY ARE THEY SO FEW THAT SEES THE PLAN /WILL OF GOD ???

    #362615
    terraricca
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    answer to question one ;for Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God ;for his education when he came to earth ,

    Ps 25:4 Show me your ways, O LORD,
    teach me your paths;
    Ps 25:5 guide me in your truth and teach me,
    for you are God my Savior,
    and my hope is in you all day long.

    #362637
    journey42
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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,03:19)
    SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I WAS READING AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES,

    1) TO WHOM AND FOR WHOM WHERE THE SCRIPTURES WRITTEN ???

    2) WHY DID GOD USE MEN PROPHETS TO DEAL WITH MEN IN GENERAL ???

    3) WHY DID IT TAKES SO LONG TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL ???

    4) WHY DID HE HAS TO SEND HIS SON ,HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE FOR MEN ???

    5) WHY ARE THEY SO FEW THAT SEES THE PLAN /WILL OF GOD ???


    Pierre

    You are only asking these questions now?
    You have some catching up to do :)

    #362639
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 25 2013,11:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,03:19)
    SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I WAS READING AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES,

    1) TO WHOM AND FOR WHOM WHERE THE SCRIPTURES WRITTEN ???

    2) WHY DID GOD USE MEN PROPHETS TO DEAL WITH MEN IN GENERAL ???

    3) WHY DID IT TAKES SO LONG TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL ???

    4) WHY DID HE HAS TO SEND HIS SON ,HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE FOR MEN ???

    5) WHY ARE THEY SO FEW THAT SEES THE PLAN /WILL OF GOD ???


    Pierre

    You are only asking these questions now?
    You have some catching up to do    :)


    J42

    Why you do not answer them ,you seem to know them,???

    #362736
    Jeremy
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    When reading the scriptures or learning something new I always like to remind myself of these verse`s
    1 Cor 8:2
    1 Cor 13:12

    #362737
    journey42
    Participant

    terraricca,Nov. wrote:

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    1) TO WHOM AND FOR WHOM WHERE THE SCRIPTURES WRITTEN ???


    At first for the Israelites, then for all mankind, the OT included, so whoever is interested can know him and can see the prophesies for themselves, and find understanding and not be in darkness.

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    2) WHY DID GOD USE MEN PROPHETS TO DEAL WITH MEN IN GENERAL ???


    To show his power in them, and those men (prophets) were God fearing Israelites who were living amongst Israelites.  Who better to speak to them, but their own, and they were rejected anyway, which is why salvation has gone out to the gentiles.

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    3) WHY DID IT TAKES SO LONG TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL ???


    It's not finished yet.  Still going, and will be all fulfilled at his own timing.  He wants as many generations as possible to have a chance of knowing him.

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    (4) WHY DID HE HAS TO SEND HIS SON ,HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE FOR MEN ???


    Because to sacrifice your only begotten son is the hardest sacrifice any could ever offer.  
    His son, Jesus Christ is his own image, so he knows what he's talking about.  
    His Son is the only one qualified to declare his Father to us, because he has been with him from the beginning.
    His Son Jesus Christ died with no sin in him, because he's spiritually came out of a heavenly kingdom, therefore not worldy, and not a hypocrite. He showed us that true worship and obedience can be carried in the flesh, as he was flesh also.
    His Son's name went down in history.  His fame has gone throughout the whole world now, and the world know him as the Son of God, even if they don't believe him, they have heard of him and God declares that the only way to him now, is through his Son only and no other name.

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    5) WHY ARE THEY SO FEW THAT SEES THE PLAN /WILL OF GOD ???[/b]


    Because the majority of christians have been feeding on other things besides the scriptures.  They have approached God's holy Word from a worldly approach with endless amounts of text books distracting them from the real spirit of truth that guides to understanding hidden things contained in the Holy Word itself.
    There are many other reasons also. The cares of this life, choke the word.
    Pride will also stop us from knowing the full plan of God.
    Pride is refusing to be corrected, therefore the HS will not grow.

    #362924
    terraricca
    Participant

    j42

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    At first for the Israelites, then for all mankind, the OT included, so whoever is interested can know him and can see the prophesies for themselves, and find understanding and not be in darkness.

    to anyone that it may concern Israelit or gentiles

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    To show his power in them, and those men (prophets) were God fearing Israelites who were living amongst Israelites. Who better to speak to them, but their own, and they were rejected anyway, which is why salvation has gone out to the gentiles.

    God through his written word did promise that he would give this ,and do that,and send a savior like Moses,and save men from sin,
    but early it shows that the evil one had a grip on most of men ,and so God for his own name and glory send prophet to bring forth piece by piece the fulfillment of his words ,until he could send his son to die and become the primacy over all ,we are now in the first final stretch of the end time or ages ,so prophet/messenger still at work,

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    It's not finished yet. Still going, and will be all fulfilled at his own timing. He wants as many generations as possible to have a chance of knowing him.

    true,but the main point it is that God ad plan that their would be enough righteous to fill the earth ;and when that number is complete then the end will come ,

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    Because to sacrifice your only begotten son is the hardest sacrifice any could ever offer.
    His son, Jesus Christ is his own image, so he knows what he's talking about.
    His Son is the only one qualified to declare his Father to us, because he has been with him from the beginning.
    His Son Jesus Christ died with no sin in him, because he's spiritually came out of a heavenly kingdom, therefore not worldy, and not a hypocrite. He showed us that true worship and obedience can be carried in the flesh, as he was flesh also.
    His Son's name went down in history. His fame has gone throughout the whole world now, and the world know him as the Son of God, even if they don't believe him, they have heard of him and God declares that the only way to him now, is through his Son only and no other name.

    the very reason that God send his son from heaven ;is because men have been so corrupted that sending prophet to tell them to stop being evil was gone that limit was passed, so their was no other alternative ,because God had already send all the men he could send without result that men would change and mainly the Israelites,but all men lost in their evil ways could not be saved even if they do change because the pile of sins that stands on them, so now what was needed was a sacrifice to be able to buy them back and cover their sins ,this in no way a men could do , because all men have sin,and have come short of the glory of God,
    this is why it took ONE BEING THAT WAS ALREADY THE FIRST IN HEAVEN (AFTER GOD THAT IS )AND THAT WAS HIS SON ,THE FIRST CREATED BEING DIRECTLY FROM GOD HIS FATHER ,HE IS THE FIRST BORN ,TO HIM BELONG ALL FIRST CHOICES ,AND SO HE CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN THROUGH THE WOMB OF A WOMEN TO BE LIKE HIS BROTHERS ,SO HE COULD BE THE FIRST TO BE RESURRECTED FOR LIFE ETERNAL ,AND ALSO SO SHOW THE WAY,

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    Because the majority of christians have been feeding on other things besides the scriptures. They have approached God's holy Word from a worldly approach with endless amounts of text books distracting them from the real spirit of truth that guides to understanding hidden things contained in the Holy Word itself.
    There are many other reasons also. The cares of this life, choke the word.
    Pride will also stop us from knowing the full plan of God.
    Pride is refusing to be corrected, therefore the HS will not grow.

    NO,IT IS BECAUSE SO FEW LOVE RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THEIR OWN HEART ,AND SO NEVER LET GOD TAKE OVER THEIR LIVES SO THAT THEY CAN BE SAVED

    #364824
    terraricca
    Participant

    The truth of the written word of God is quite easy to understand ,if you keep reading it without preconceived ideas or dogmas or opinions ,

    Try to pick a bible non religion attached but a multi religion translation ,read it and give all your attention to it ,believe it in what it says ,your live is at stake ,

    #368805
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,18:02)
    Try to pick a bible non religion attached but a multi religion translation ,read it and give all your attention to it ,believe it in what it says ,your live is at stake ,


    Try to read a bible that wasn't printed by the same printers that printed “The Satanic Versus”, and “The joy of Gay Sex”. This would be a good start.

    #368853
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 30 2014,07:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,18:02)
    Try to pick a bible non religion attached but a multi religion translation ,read it and give all your attention to it ,believe it in what it says ,your live is at stake ,


    Try to read a bible that wasn't printed by the same printers that printed “The Satanic Versus”, and “The joy of Gay Sex”.  This would be a good start.


    j42

    it seems that the apostles did understand scriptures for

    Jn 11:49 Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, “You know nothing at all!
    Jn 11:50 You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.”
    Jn 11:51 He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation,

    this high priest was virulent in wanting Christ dead

    #370778
    terraricca
    Participant

    Let's be honest what does a printing machine as to do with the printing of the scriptures beside having them printed,soon someone will come up and say the ink is made in a country were they use children or poor people or whatever ,

    It shows you do not know the scriptures ,just the book

    #371168
    terraricca
    Participant

    here i have a good question to all ,

    sins Christ and his apostles had to have the scriptures in their days ,in many synagogue, which version what lay out in the country in all the synagogue ???

    was the scriptures in the temple the same one than in the synagogue ???

    this could mean 100 ths of copies available right ? Yes

    one more question ;

    sins Christ came and talked to all people with the knowledge of the scriptures is it not normal that we find what ever he said in the scriptures ,??? Yes,

    but what about the apostles teachings are they also found in scriptures ??? Yes they do ,

    now one more ;HOW COULD THE APOSTLES UNDERSTAND THE WRITTEN SCRIPTURES SO THAT THEY COULD EXPLAIN IT ???

    #372906
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Compare verses.
    A truth is established in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses.
    2Cor 13

    #372907
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The words burned themselves into the hearts of the apostles[Lk23.32]

    #372931
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 10 2014,08:23)
    Hi,
    Compare verses.
    A truth is established in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses.
    2Cor 13


    Nick

    bible truth ???

    #372932
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 10 2014,08:40)
    Hi T,
    The words burned themselves into the hearts of the apostles[Lk23.32]


    is this contradict your other statement of 2 or 3 witness ???

    #372943
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    What is vital is repeated several times.
    But all is true

    #372944
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2014,00:10)
    Hi T,
    What is vital is repeated several times.
    But all is true


    do you see how wrong you can be ,with your one sentence quotes

    #372948
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Is scripture wrong?

    No just misunderstood.
    God goes out of His way to make things clear.

    #372949
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    If you spend you time just picking faults you will make little progress yourself.

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