Understanding Revelation

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  • #363270
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2013,10:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 06 2013,05:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2013,05:38)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 05 2013,16:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2013,18:27)
    W

    How could that be ??? I did not change one single letter ,:D


    T.

    Why did you do that to me?

    wakeup.


    w

    no,i never did that to you,

    you presented a multi composition of scriptures and some only partially written ,

    i do not do that,and i do not try to make scriptures say in meaning what they do not in context


    T.

    I quote whole chapters with my explanations.
    You can accept or reject my explanations.
    But the scriptures are not my own composition.

    wakeup.


    W

    YES,I think you did that ones or twice ,but you comment to it was not according to the context or other scriptures,


    T.

    This you failed to show me in scriptures that my explanations are wrong.
    Using your scriptures.

    wakeup.

    #363275
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    Quote
    T.

    This you failed to show me in scriptures that my explanations are wrong.
    Using your scriptures.

    wakeup.

    If Jesus could not convince the doctors of the law and the pharisees why would you think I could do it ???

    it is the mind and heart of the person that hears the words that as to seek Gods truth ; test your own heart , because you will stand alone before Christ ,and so will all of us .

    I only pointing out what my heart sees in Christ ,

    #363286
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,01:09)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    This you failed to show me in scriptures that my  explanations are wrong.
    Using your scriptures.

    wakeup.

    If Jesus could not convince the doctors of the law and the  pharisees why would you think I could do it ???

    it is the mind and heart of the person  that  hears the words that as to seek Gods truth ; test your own heart , because you will stand alone before Christ ,and so will all of us .

    I only pointing out what my heart sees  in Christ ,


    T.

    Only scriptures can proof me wrong.
    Show me. That would only improve my knowledge.

    wakeup.

    #363287
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 06 2013,23:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,01:09)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    This you failed to show me in scriptures that my  explanations are wrong.
    Using your scriptures.

    wakeup.

    If Jesus could not convince the doctors of the law and the  pharisees why would you think I could do it ???

    it is the mind and heart of the person  that  hears the words that as to seek Gods truth ; test your own heart , because you will stand alone before Christ ,and so will all of us .

    I only pointing out what my heart sees  in Christ ,


    T.

    Only scriptures can proof me wrong.
    Show me. That would only improve my knowledge.

    wakeup.


    w

    you still do not understand how it works ,it is not any one of us that will change you from, wrong to the right truth ,

    the truth belong to God ,and so it is God that will show you but God also knows the heart and so the truth that is given to us is in relation to the truth we have accepted ,and so can not be more than that ,

    in one way our truth is related to the truth that we have accepted from scriptures ,look what Jesus says to Nicodemus,in the gospel of John ,

    so it is in your hands to see that you have all the truth of God ,according to the scriptures any rejection would influence your true understanding ,

    #363302
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,04:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 06 2013,23:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,01:09)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    This you failed to show me in scriptures that my  explanations are wrong.
    Using your scriptures.

    wakeup.

    If Jesus could not convince the doctors of the law and the  pharisees why would you think I could do it ???

    it is the mind and heart of the person  that  hears the words that as to seek Gods truth ; test your own heart , because you will stand alone before Christ ,and so will all of us .

    I only pointing out what my heart sees  in Christ ,


    T.

    Only scriptures can proof me wrong.
    Show me. That would only improve my knowledge.

    wakeup.


    w

    you still do not understand how it works ,it is not any one of us that will change you from, wrong to the right truth ,

    the truth belong to God ,and so it is God that will show you but God also knows the heart and so the truth that is given to us is in relation to the truth we have accepted ,and so can not be more than that ,

    in one way our truth is related to the truth that we have accepted from scriptures ,look what Jesus says to Nicodemus,in the gospel of John ,

    so it is in your hands to see that you have all the truth of God ,according to the scriptures any rejection would influence your true understanding ,


    T.

    John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth
    **not my words**, hath one that judgeth him:
    ***the word that I have spoken***,
    *** the same shall judge him in the last day***.
    THE WORD JESUS HAS SPOKEN ARE IN THE SCRIPTURES.
    LET THE SCRIPTURES JUDGE ME WRONG.
    AND YOU ARE TO SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURES,TO JUDGE
    ME WRONG.
    I ALWAYS LOVE TO IMPROVE MYSELF.

    wakeup.

    #363307
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)

    #363385
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.

    #363387
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,11:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.


    w

    i know the scriptures for i read them 40 times some books even more ,but i believe ALL what is written so the truth i understand is based on the entire scriptures,and what seems not right God showed me and those things i investigate deeper,i am very satisfied in my knowledge and share it with the wife and her with me,

    #363461
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,11:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.


    w

    i know the scriptures for i read them 40 times some books even more ,but i believe ALL what is written so the truth i understand is based on the entire scriptures,and what seems not right God showed me and those things i investigate deeper,i am very satisfied in my knowledge and share it with the wife and her with me,


    T.

    You are not the only one that think that way.
    There are millions of christians that think, and say the same.
    The fact is they are all cofused and contra in doctrine.

    Wy is it so?

    wakeup.

    #363464
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,11:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.


    w

    i know the scriptures for i read them 40 times some books even more ,but i believe ALL what is written so the truth i understand is based on the entire scriptures,and what seems not right God showed me and those things i investigate deeper,i am very satisfied in my knowledge and share it with the wife and her with me,


    T.

    You are not the only one that think that way.
    There are millions of christians that think, and say the same.
    The fact is they are all cofused and contra in doctrine.

    Wy is it so?

    wakeup.


    W

    I guess that leaves only you ,with your truth ,right ???

    #363471
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2013,14:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,11:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.


    w

    i know the scriptures for i read them 40 times some books even more ,but i believe ALL what is written so the truth i understand is based on the entire scriptures,and what seems not right God showed me and those things i investigate deeper,i am very satisfied in my knowledge and share it with the wife and her with me,


    T.

    You are not the only one that think that way.
    There are millions of christians that think, and say the same.
    The fact is they are all cofused and contra in doctrine.

    Wy is it so?

    wakeup.


    W

    I guess that leaves only you ,with your truth ,right ???


    T.

    That is right,untill you or someone can come up with scriptures showing that I was wrong.
    And I will check it out,and will change my interpretation.

    This is the only way to improve in knowledge.
    The truth to me is more important than anything else.

    You have become a believer because of the scriptures
    is it not? Or is it just by listening to preachers?
    The word of God is sharper than a two edged sword.
    Not the word of some preacher.

    I am waiting for you or anyone to show me scriptures
    to proof to me that I was wrong.
    I like to improve in knowledge,and this is also what you should do.

    wakeup.

    #363489
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,14:48)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2013,14:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,11:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.


    w

    i know the scriptures for i read them 40 times some books even more ,but i believe ALL what is written so the truth i understand is based on the entire scriptures,and what seems not right God showed me and those things i investigate deeper,i am very satisfied in my knowledge and share it with the wife and her with me,


    T.

    You are not the only one that think that way.
    There are millions of christians that think, and say the same.
    The fact is they are all cofused and contra in doctrine.

    Wy is it so?

    wakeup.


    W

    I guess that leaves only you ,with your truth ,right ???


    T.

    That is right,untill you or someone can come up with scriptures showing that I was wrong.
    And I will check it out,and will  change my interpretation.

    This is the only way to improve in knowledge.
    The truth to me is more important than anything else.

    You have become a believer because of the scriptures
    is it not? Or is it just by listening to preachers?
    The word of God is sharper than a two edged sword.
    Not the word of some preacher.

    I am waiting for you or anyone to show me scriptures
    to proof to me that I was wrong.
    I like to improve in knowledge,and this is also what you should do.

    wakeup.


    W

    Ps 36:1 An oracle is within my heart
    concerning the sinfulness of the wicked:
    There is no fear of God
    before his eyes.
    Ps 36:2 For in his own eyes he flatters himself
    too much to detect or hate his sin.
    Ps 36:3 The words of his mouth are wicked and deceitful;
    he has ceased to be wise and to do good.
    Ps 36:4 Even on his bed he plots evil;
    he commits himself to a sinful course
    and does not reject what is wrong.

    Ps 36:11 May the foot of the proud not come against me,
    nor the hand of the wicked drive me away.

    Ps 37:1 Do not fret because of evil men
    or be envious of those who do wrong;
    Ps 37:2 for like the grass they will soon wither,
    like green plants they will soon die away.

    Ps 37:3 Trust in the LORD and do good;
    dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.
    Ps 37:4 Delight yourself in the LORD
    and he will give you the desires of your heart.

    Ps 37:5 Commit your way to the LORD?
    trust in him and he will do this:
    Ps 37:6 He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn,
    the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.

    Ps 37:7 Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him;
    do not fret when men succeed in their ways,
    when they carry out their wicked schemes.

    Ps 37:8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
    do not fret—it leads only to evil.
    Ps 37:9 For evil men will be cut off,
    but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

    this is my hope,

    #363496
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,01:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,14:48)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2013,14:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,11:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,13:32)
    w

    I told you what I know ,about the truth ,so can not help you ,

    you have to do yourself or find someone else ,

    this ends this conversation :)


    T.

    You can not help anyone.
    You need to know the scriptures and understand.
    Or you would be a lame duck.

    wakeup.


    w

    i know the scriptures for i read them 40 times some books even more ,but i believe ALL what is written so the truth i understand is based on the entire scriptures,and what seems not right God showed me and those things i investigate deeper,i am very satisfied in my knowledge and share it with the wife and her with me,


    T.

    You are not the only one that think that way.
    There are millions of christians that think, and say the same.
    The fact is they are all cofused and contra in doctrine.

    Wy is it so?

    wakeup.


    W

    I guess that leaves only you ,with your truth ,right ???


    T.

    That is right,untill you or someone can come up with scriptures showing that I was wrong.
    And I will check it out,and will  change my interpretation.

    This is the only way to improve in knowledge.
    The truth to me is more important than anything else.

    You have become a believer because of the scriptures
    is it not? Or is it just by listening to preachers?
    The word of God is sharper than a two edged sword.
    Not the word of some preacher.

    I am waiting for you or anyone to show me scriptures
    to proof to me that I was wrong.
    I like to improve in knowledge,and this is also what you should do.

    wakeup.


    W

    Ps 36:1 An oracle is within my heart
    concerning the sinfulness of the wicked:
    There is no fear of God
    before his eyes.
    Ps 36:2 For in his own eyes he flatters himself
    too much to detect or hate his sin.
    Ps 36:3 The words of his mouth are wicked and deceitful;
    he has ceased to be wise and to do good.
    Ps 36:4 Even on his bed he plots evil;
    he commits himself to a sinful course
    and does not reject what is wrong.

    Ps 36:11 May the foot of the proud not come against me,
    nor the hand of the wicked drive me away.

    Ps 37:1 Do not fret because of evil men
    or be envious of those who do wrong;
    Ps 37:2 for like the grass they will soon wither,
    like green plants they will soon die away.

    Ps 37:3 Trust in the LORD and do good;
    dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.
    Ps 37:4 Delight yourself in the LORD
    and he will give you the desires of your heart.

    Ps 37:5 Commit your way to the LORD?
    trust in him and he will do this:
    Ps 37:6 He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn,
    the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.

    Ps 37:7 Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him;
    do not fret when men succeed in their ways,
    when they carry out their wicked schemes.

    Ps 37:8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
    do not fret—it leads only to evil.
    Ps 37:9 For evil men will be cut off,
    but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

    this is my hope,


    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    #363530
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    Quote
    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    :( :(

    #363543
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,06:11)
    w

    Quote
    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    :( :(


    T.

    Yes,you should learn from it.

    wakeup.

    #363554
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,05:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,06:11)
    w

    Quote
    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    :( :(


    T.

    Yes,you should learn from it.

    wakeup.


    w

    another useless comment ,

    #363850
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,11:06)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,05:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,06:11)
    w

    Quote
    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    :( :(


    T.

    Yes,you should learn from it.

    wakeup.


    w

    another useless comment ,


    T.

    No one here can join in the prophesies.
    This is evidence that they are still on the breast.
    And you are one of them.
    Dont you think it's time to go on solid food?
    All are still discussing Jesus and God,and the Holy Spirit.
    This is proof that they dont know the Son and the Father.
    Jesus will come and see them all naked.

    wakeup.

    #363852
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 15 2013,02:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,11:06)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,05:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,06:11)
    w

    Quote
    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    :( :(


    T.

    Yes,you should learn from it.

    wakeup.


    w

    another useless comment ,


    T.

    No one here can join in the prophesies.
    This is evidence that they are still on the breast.
    And you are one of them.
    Dont you think it's time to go on solid food?
    All are still discussing Jesus and God,and the Holy Spirit.
    This is proof that they dont know the Son and the Father.
    Jesus will come and see them all naked.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you are the most arrogant/self centered person on this site ,your words prove that ;

    #363854
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 15 2013,10:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 15 2013,02:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,11:06)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,05:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,06:11)
    w

    Quote
    T.

    You are quoting all those scriptures and
    still feel good about yourself?

    wakeup.

    :( :(


    T.

    Yes,you should learn from it.

    wakeup.


    w

    another useless comment ,


    T.

    No one here can join in the prophesies.
    This is evidence that they are still on the breast.
    And you are one of them.
    Dont you think it's time to go on solid food?
    All are still discussing Jesus and God,and the Holy Spirit.
    This is proof that they dont know the Son and the Father.
    Jesus will come and see them all naked.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you are the most arrogant/self centered  person on this site ,your words prove that ;


    T.

    The truth is not pleasant to hear.

    wakeup.

    #363871
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    :D :O :D :p :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :O

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