Understanding Revelation

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,15:21)

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 26 2010,19:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2010,05:29) Quote (Baker @ Sep. 23 2010,11:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,10:01) georg what ever i will say you will not accept, read back 10 pages or so , Pierre If you don't even take the word of God as truth, then what will you take as truth, your own understanding? Georg georg you explain thing with Israel and apply things that was and is fullfilled before or in 70 AD. Pierre Then show me the scripture that says so! Georg georg here it is;; Quote (terraricca @ April 27 2010,11:19) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 27 2010,03:06) Quote (terraricca @ April 24 2010,12:56) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 24 2010,11:28) terraricca I have all those scriptures in my Bible; what is the point you're trying to make? Georg georg you remember the fig three ? that's where you told me “you don't know” this were the signs the apostles are to look for to escape from the disaster to come over Jerusalem terraricca The destruction of Jerusalem and the temple happened in 70 AD, by then only John was still alive. The fig tree is a sign for our time; we have witnessed the return of the Jews to their homeland, and the reestablishing of their nation in 1948. That is when the counting of the last generation began. Georg georg Jerusalem temple totally destroyed in 70 AD as accomplish what Jesus as said, you say;;The fig tree is a sign for our time; we have witnessed the return of the Jews to their homeland, and the reestablishing of their nation in 1948. That is when the counting of the last generation began. Georg all as been done in 70AD that was the final connection of Israel to God ,as per the law, there is still remain the promise. but nothing else no more connection in prophesy Eze 36:17   Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.   Eze 36:18   Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:   Eze 36:19   And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.   Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.   Eze 36:23   And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.   Eze 36:24   For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.   Eze 37:22   And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:   Jer 46:28   Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.   Joe 3:1 ¶ For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,   Mic 4:7   And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.   Zec 2:8 ¶ For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.   Zec 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.   Zec 8:14 ¶ For thus saith the LORD of hosts; As I thought to punish you, when your fathers provoked me to wrath, saith the LORD of hosts, and I repented not:   Zec 8:15   So again have I thought in these days to do well unto Jerusalem and to the house of Judah: fear ye not.   Zec 10:6   And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph, and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them: and they shall be as though I had not cast them off: for I am the LORD their God, and will hear them.   Mal 3:6   For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.   Rom 11:26   And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:   Rom 11:27   For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.   Rom 11:28   As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.   Rom 11:29   For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.   Georg and i give you my answer on that in the next quote Pierre

You keep saying that too, but never deliver.

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

here it is again;;georg

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

those above verses Paul talk about the israelites being blind to the gospel but will be saved according to the promise,
but the 1948 israel as nothing to do with that promise,the promise will after the 1000years when he will open there eyes so they can see and be saved,and there sins will be forgiven as a gift.

Zec 8:15 So again have I thought in these days to do well unto Jerusalem and to the house of Judah: fear ye not.

Zec 10:6 And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph, and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them: and they shall be as though I had not cast them off: for I am the LORD their God, and will hear them.

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

the upper verses deals with the promise that God will save them and strengthen them so he did when he send Jesus to save them and make them ready for the heavenly Jerusalem.

Eze 36:19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Eze 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

the same with the upper verses it deals with Christ invitation but most refuse to accepted.see under one king Christ.

Zec 2:8 ¶ For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.
this is true for the 144000 .

————–
PR
i am just a fisherman

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,19:46)

georg here it is again;;georg Rom 11:26   And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:   Rom 11:27   For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.   Rom 11:28   As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.   Rom 11:29   For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.   those above verses Paul talk about the israelites being blind to the gospel but will be saved according to the promise, but the 1948 israel as nothing to do with that promise,the promise will after the 1000years when he will open there eyes so they can see and be saved,and there sins will be forgiven as a gift. Zec 8:15   So again have I thought in these days to do well unto Jerusalem and to the house of Judah: fear ye not.   Zec 10:6   And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph, and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them: and they shall be as though I had not cast them off: for I am the LORD their God, and will hear them.   Mal 3:6   For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.   the upper verses deals with the promise that God will save them and strengthen them so he did when he send Jesus to save them and make them ready for the heavenly Jerusalem. Eze 36:19   And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.   Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.   Eze 36:23   And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.   Eze 36:24   For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.   Eze 37:22   And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:   the same with the upper verses it deals with Christ invitation but most refuse to accepted.see under one king Christ. Zec 2:8 ¶ For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. this is true for the 144000 . ————– PR i am just a fisherman

You can say that again.

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

if you wand you can show me were and wich of the scriptures i have misquoted.

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,19:56)

georg if you wand you can show me were and wich of the scriptures i have misquoted. Pierre

, you funny guy.

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

i am glad i participate in your happiness

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:06)

georg i am glad i participate in your happiness Pierre

Yea, you do humor me some times, but mostly I'm sad over the fact that you don't care to understand the truth.

Georg

[terraricca]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 27 2010,03:13)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:06) georg i am glad i participate in your happiness Pierre Yea, you do humor me some times, but mostly I'm sad over the fact that you don't care to understand the truth. Georg

georg

no scriptures were i denied truth on.??

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:16)

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 27 2010,03:13) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:06) georg i am glad i participate in your happiness Pierre Yea, you do humor me some times, but mostly I'm sad over the fact that you don't care to understand the truth. Georg georg no scriptures were i denied truth on.?? Pierre

You have refused to respond to “ALL” scriptures I gave you; to me, that is the same as denying.

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

you never answer mine so why are you complaining

Pierrre

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:44)

georg you never answer mine so why are you complaining Pierrre

Do you have dementia?

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

i do not think so ;is that something that can be transmitted trough internet??

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:57)

georg i do not think so ;is that something that can be transmitted trough internet?? Pierre

Jea, you funny guy alright,

Georg

[terraricca]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 27 2010,04:09)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,20:57) georg i do not think so ;is that something that can be transmitted trough internet?? Pierre Jea, you funny guy alright,   Georg

georg

you too

Pierre

[mikeangel]

Pierre were you baptised in a church or taken communion in 30 years?

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 29 2010,18:15)

Pierre were you baptised in a church or taken communion in 30 years?

hi Mark

so as you know by now i am not catholic and do any pagan worship rituals

Pierre

[mikeangel]

Pierre, The reason that I am posting this in all of your responses is because even though I do my best to answer your questions in good faith, you ignore mine, especially when the answers you would be forced to give would show your duplicity. You then used one statement I made about holding hands with other people and saying the our father and tried to say it was wrong, when it would be black and white right, in that that is the one prayer Jesus gave us and holding hands would be showing love to one another as he commanded. You then respond by cutting and pasteing incredibly long articles that have nothing to do with our discussion………… Baptism is not a catholic ritual, Jesus was baptised. You got the ignorance to call him pagan? Communion was instituted by Jesus at the last supper, and he asked us to do that in memory of him. You got the guts to call that pagan too? In alll of that being said, you never answered the questions- Were you baptised in a church? Any church? Have you taken the lords supper in thirty years? Be honest. I will ask you that until you give me a honest answer like I give you. (Treating others as you would be treated) You answer those and I will discuss my specifics. Please. Peace and Love- Mark

[JustAskin]

Mark,
Powerfully and forthrightly spoken.

[terraricca]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 30 2010,06:15)

Mark, Powerfully and forthrightly spoken.

JA

what is that suppose to mean??

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 29 2010,22:16)

Pierre, The reason that I am posting this in all of your responses is because even though I do my best to answer your questions in good faith, you ignore mine, especially when the answers you would be forced to give would show your duplicity. You then used one statement I made about holding hands with other people and saying the our father and tried to say it was wrong, when it would be black and white right, in that that is the one prayer Jesus gave us and holding hands would be showing love to one another as he commanded. You then respond by cutting and pasteing incredibly long articles that have nothing to do with our discussion………… Baptism is not a catholic ritual, Jesus was baptised. You got the ignorance to call him pagan? Communion was instituted by Jesus at the last supper, and he asked us to do that in memory of him. You got the guts to call that pagan too?  In alll of that being said, you never answered the questions- Were you baptised in a church? Any church? Have you taken the lords supper in thirty years? Be honest. I will ask you that until you give me a honest answer like I give you. (Treating others as you would be treated) You answer those and I will discuss my specifics. Please. Peace and Love- Mark

Mark, I commend you for your restrained.

Georg

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