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  • #318250
    david
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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,04:26)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 30 2012,12:08)

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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 30 2012,08:16)

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    1) FreeWill

    Free will could be the answer for any question.  You still didn't answer the question.   Ed, if you asked me “why…..” And I said “free will” you would think I was avoiding the question.  

    I just wonder why you are receiving magazines fromJW?  Especially given that you say they are propaganda material?


    Hi David,

    I don't understand what you are asking?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I asked you why you are receiving what you believe to be propaganda material from JW.

    You answered : because I can (free will)

    Not really an answer that explains WHY you are.  You also have free will not to, right.  You have chosen one over the other.  Wy?


    You realize that you are essentially supporting JW?  You may think you are un converting them, but, that is highly unlikely.  You are just adding to a series of statistics that increases certain beliefs.  You are supporting them.  And for other neighbours that see them come to you, they would draw the same conclusion.


    Jesus said: “he that is not against us is on our part.”  (Mark 9:39-40)


    Meaning?

    Meaning that JW are on your part? Meanng that you are on theirs?

    ?

    #318263
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,10:10)
    I am having great difficulty in understanding why you are so confused about my question.

    Why do you receive literature fromJW?
    Why do you receive literature that you say is propaganda material?

    “Free will” being your answer, does not explain why you have chosen to.  It only explains that you have the ability to choose to do so.  It's a rather simple question Ed.  Most people do not.  You do.   Why?


    Hi David,

    I'm really not sure what you are trying to find out?  
    Is your question: “what makes me different from the others?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318264
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,10:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,04:26)

    Jesus said: “he that is not against us is on our part.”  (Mark 9:39-40)


    Meaning?

    Meaning that JW are on your part?  Meanng that you are on theirs?

    ?


    Hi David,

    I believe you should take that verse to mean I'm a Christian.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318287
    david
    Participant

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    Why do you receive literature fromJW?

    #318289
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,11:22)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,10:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,04:26)

    Jesus said: “he that is not against us is on our part.”  (Mark 9:39-40)


    Meaning?

    Meaning that JW are on your part?  Meanng that you are on theirs?

    ?


    Hi David,

    I believe you should take that verse to mean I'm a Christian.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I said twice in the same paragraph that you were supporting JW's

    Your response:
    “Jesus said: “he that is not against us is on our part.” “

    So, your response to me saying you are supporting Jw is to say that you are a Christian?

    #318306
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi David,

    I'm aware of people that take JW literature
    and then throw it right in the trash without even
    looking at it. Would you say they are supporting the JW's?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318308
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,15:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,11:22)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,10:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,04:26)

    Jesus said: “he that is not against us is on our part.”  (Mark 9:39-40)


    Meaning?

    Meaning that JW are on your part?  Meanng that you are on theirs?

    ?


    Hi David,

    I believe you should take that verse to mean I'm a Christian.

    God bless
    Ed J


    I said twice in the same paragraph that you were supporting JW's

    Your response:
    “Jesus said: “he that is not against us is on our part.” “

    So, your response to me saying you are supporting Jw is to say that you are a Christian?


    Hi David,

    No, my response was to how you should take the verse I posted.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318309
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,15:13)

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    Why do you receive literature fromJW?


    Hi David,

    Is your question: why do I take the literature?
    The answer: I only take what I might read.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320470
    Wakeup
    Participant

    EdJ.

    Do you study the book of mormon too?

    wakeup.

    #320477
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 16 2012,02:26)
    EdJ.

    Do you study the book of mormon too?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I did read the whole “Book of Mormon”
    I also did read over ¾ of “The Uranti Book”
    I didn't get too far with 'the quran', because
    that book (book of fraud) IS REALLY TWISTED.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320480
    Wakeup
    Participant

    EDJ.

    They are all twisted,stay with the bilble,its all you need really.
    All the answers you find in the bible.The word of God is Jesus. eat his flesh,and drink his blood.

    wakeup.

    #320487
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 16 2012,03:40)
    EDJ.

    They are all twisted,stay with the bilble,its all you need really.
    All the answers you find in the bible.The word of God is Jesus. eat his flesh,and drink his blood.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I ain't a baby Christian,
    why did you read 'the quran'?
    Hey don't you take you own advice?
    Or are you a hypocrite like the Pharisees?

    “The word” of God is really the “HolySpirit”. (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320513
    Wakeup
    Participant

    EDJ.

    Wrong again.
    The word is Jesus,without the word was nothing made that was made.

    Colossians 1:15 WHO IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD, the firstborn of every creature:

    Colossians 1:16 For by HIM were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by HIM, and for him:

    Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by HIM all things consist.

    WHAT SAY YOU?

    wakeup.

    #320540
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,,

    Mathew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye
    shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
    2 Tm.2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth
    faithful: he(God) cannot deny himself.

    “God The Father” is the “Subject” in Col.1:12-20 and Jesus is the Object; English 101.
    I will take the liberty to insert both the subject and object into the text for 'your' understanding.
    Normally I remove the numbers, but for explanation purposes, my “Free Will” will leave them in for you.
    There is no inconsistencies with the rest of “The Bible” viewing Col.1:12-20 in the light of my view. (Eph.5:13)

    Col.1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet
    to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Romans 8:17):
    13: Who (YHVH our God) hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
    and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son(switching to object):
    14: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
    15: Who(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God(YHVH), the firstborn of every creature:
    16: For by him(YHVH)(switching back to the subject) were all things created, that are in heaven,
    and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
    or powers: all things were created by him(YHVH), and for him(YHVH):
    17: And he(YHVH) is before all things, and by him(YHVH) all things consist.
    18: And he(Jesus)(switching back to the object) is the head of the body, the church:
    who is the beginning(the preeminence of God), the firstborn from the dead (Romans 1:4);
    that in all things he(Jesus) might have the preeminence(over all his brethren).
    19: For it pleased the Father that in him(Jesus) should all fulness dwell;
    20: And, having made peace through the blood of his(Jesus) cross,
    by him(YHVH) to reconcile all things unto himself(2Cor.5:18);
    by him, whether things in earth, or things in heaven.

    Lets now look at verse 16 and verse 17 with greater scrutiny…

    16: For by him(YHVH) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
    visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
    or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: (Rev.4:11)

    Would 'you' have us to believe Jesus (falsely) created these things “in Heaven”…

    1. God's throne
    2. God's dominion
    3. God's principality
    4. God's power
    5. God himself

    Can you not see the flaw in 'your' assertion?

    Now let's take a closer look at verse 17…

    17: And he(YHVH) is before all things, and by him(YHVH) all things consist.

    Would 'you' have us to believe Jesus (falsely) is before YHVH himself?
    Would 'you' have us to believe by Jesus (falsely) all things consist?
    How can you reconcile this belief without saying Jesus is God?

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320603
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,18:54)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,15:13)

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    Why do you receive literature fromJW?


    Hi David,

    Is your question: why do I take the literature?
    The answer: I only take what I might read.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So, you aren't taking it to “just throw it in the garbage” but are taking magazines from jehovahs witnesses to actually read it?

    You are supporting jehovahs witnesses.

    Also, all publications that we hand out, you can also get n the website.

    #320604
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Nov. 16 2012,15:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,18:54)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,15:13)

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    Why do you receive literature fromJW?


    Hi David,

    Is your question: why do I take the literature?
    The answer: I only take what I might read.

    God bless
    Ed J


    (1)So, you aren't taking it to “just throw it in the garbage” but are taking magazines from jehovahs witnesses to actually read it?

    (2)You are supporting jehovahs witnesses.  

    (3)Also, all publications that we hand out, you can also get n the website.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Correct
    2) OK, if you say so.
    3) The Watchtower study too?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320605
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi David,

    I consider the JW's my brothers,
    though they may consider differently of me. What
    about you David, do you consider – me – to be YOUR brother in Christ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320609
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2012,15:44)

    Quote (david @ Nov. 16 2012,15:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,18:54)

    Quote (david @ Oct. 31 2012,15:13)

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    Why do you receive literature fromJW?


    Hi David,

    Is your question: why do I take the literature?
    The answer: I only take what I might read.

    God bless
    Ed J


    (1)So, you aren't taking it to “just throw it in the garbage” but are taking magazines from jehovahs witnesses to actually read it?

    (2)You are supporting jehovahs witnesses.  

    (3)Also, all publications that we hand out, you can also get n the website.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Correct
    2) OK, if you say so.
    3) The Watchtower study too?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Yes. Everything.

    #320610
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2012,15:49)
    Hi David,

    I consider the JW's my brothers,
    though they may consider differently of me. What
    about you David, do you consider – me – to be YOUR brother in Christ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother? No. I think of you more as that cousin that you sort of know, and see on holidays.

    #320613
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Nov. 16 2012,16:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2012,15:49)
    Hi David,

    I consider the JW's my brothers,
    though they may consider differently of me. What
    about you David, do you consider – me – to be YOUR brother in Christ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother?  No.  I think of you more as that cousin that you sort of know, and see on holidays.


    :D

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