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  • #226266
    Stu
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 23 2010,12:00)
    You are a smart person B.  


    Are you sure about that?

    Stuart

    #226272
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,05:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2010,18:32)
    Hi Everyone,

    BD keeps trying to associate with us his satanic god allah??? WHAT A LIE! What a Lie!!

    The quran has 114 chapters called suras and is the 'book of fraud'!

                             'quran book'   =114
                               'evil curse'    =114
                              'islam false'    =114   
                              'Lucifer liar'    =114
                             'allah is devil'  =114
                            'book of fraud' =114                  
                        'a moongod bible'=114  

    For the reader's sake:
    I(Ed J) no longer Post directly to BD, nor answer his postulating questions,
    because BD continues to make outrageous personal attacks
    which go ignored by the owner of this site.


    Surah 5

    14 From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.  


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                            God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

       
    Garbage posted from the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) is nothing but “SQUAG”!

    Jer.23:36 [And the message of the LORD shall ye mention no more:
    for every man's word shall be his message
    ]; for ye(BD) have perverted
    the words of the living God(YHVH), of the “LORD of Hosts”(151) [Our YHVH(117)].

    Psalm 139:6-8 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me(BD);
    it is high, I(BD) cannot attain unto it. (Isaiah 55:8-9) Whither
    shall I(BD) go from thy(YHVH) spirit?  or whither shall I(BD) flee
    from thy(YHVH) presence? If I(BD) ascend up into heaven, thou(YHVH)
    art there: if I(BD) make my bed in hell, behold, thou(YHVH) art there.

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    #226274
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,14:52)
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                            God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

       
    Garbage posted from the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) is nothing but “SQUAG”!

    Jer.23:36 [And the message of the LORD shall ye mention no more:
    for every man's word shall be his message
    ]; for ye(BD) have perverted
    the words of the living God(YHVH), of the “LORD of Hosts”(151) [Our YHVH(117)].

    Psalm 139:6-8 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me(BD);
    it is high, I(BD) cannot attain unto it. (Isaiah 55:8-9) Whither
    shall I(BD) go from thy(YHVH) spirit?  or whither shall I(BD) flee
    from thy(YHVH) presence? If I(BD) ascend up into heaven, thou(YHVH)
    art there: if I(BD) make my bed in hell, behold, thou(YHVH) art there.

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    Surah 26

    1 Ta. Sin. Mim.
    2 These are verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.
    3 It may be thou frettest thy soul with grief, that they do not become Believers.
    4 If (such) were Our Will, We could send down to them from the sky a Sign, to which they would bend their necks in humility.
    5 But there comes not to them a newly-revealed Message from ((Allah)) Most Gracious, but they turn away therefrom.
    6 They have indeed rejected (the Message): so they will know soon (enough) the truth of what they mocked at!
    7 Do they not look at the earth,- how many noble things of all kinds We have produced therein?
    8 Verily, in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    9 And verily, thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    10 Behold, thy Lord called Moses: “Go to the people of iniquity,-
    11 “The people of the Pharaoh: will they not fear Allah.”
    12 He said: “O my Lord! I do fear that they will charge me with falsehood:
    13 “My breast will be straitened. And my speech may not go (smoothly): so send unto Aaron.
    14 “And (further), they have a charge of crime against me; and I fear they may slay me.”
    15 Allah said: “By no means! proceed then, both of you, with Our Signs; We are with you, and will listen (to your call).
    16 “So go forth, both of you, to Pharaoh, and say: 'We have been sent by the Lord and Cherisher of the worlds;
    17 “'Send thou with us the Children of Israel.'”
    18 (Pharaoh) said: “Did we not cherish thee as a child among us, and didst thou not stay in our midst many years of thy life?
    19 “And thou didst a deed of thine which (thou knowest) thou didst, and thou art an ungrateful (wretch)!”
    20 Moses said: “I did it then, when I was in error.
    21 “So I fled from you (all) when I feared you; but my Lord has (since) invested me with judgment (and wisdom) and appointed me as one of the apostles.
    22 “And this is the favour with which thou dost reproach me,- that thou hast enslaved the Children of Israel!”
    23 Pharaoh said: “And what is the 'Lord and Cherisher of the worlds'?”
    24 (Moses) said: “The Lord and Cherisher of the heavens and the earth, and all between,- if ye want to be quite sure.”
    25 (Pharaoh) said to those around: “Did ye not listen (to what he says)?”
    26 (Moses) said: “Your Lord and the Lord of your fathers from the beginning!”
    27 (Pharaoh) said: “Truly your apostle who has been sent to you is a veritable madman!”
    28 (Moses) said: “Lord of the East and the West, and all between! if ye only had sense!”
    29 (Pharaoh) said: “If thou dost put forward any god other than me, I will certainly put thee in prison!”
    30 (Moses) said: “Even if I showed you something clear (and) convincing?”
    31 (Pharaoh) said: “Show it then, if thou tellest the truth!”
    32 So (Moses) threw his rod, and behold, it was a serpent, plain (for all to see)!
    33 And he drew out his hand, and behold, it was white to all beholders!
    34 (Pharaoh) said to the Chiefs around him: “This is indeed a sorcerer well- versed:
    35 “His plan is to get you out of your land by his sorcery; then what is it ye counsel?”
    36 They said: “Keep him and his brother in suspense (for a while), and dispatch to the Cities heralds to collect-
    37 “And bring up to thee all (our) sorcerers well-versed.”
    38 So the sorcerers were got together for the appointment of a day well-known,
    39 And the people were told: “Are ye (now) assembled?-
    40 “That we may follow the sorcerers (in religion) if they win?”
    41 So when the sorcerers arrived, they said to Pharaoh: “Of course – shall we have a (suitable) reward if we win?
    42 He said: “Yea, (and more),- for ye shall in that case be (raised to posts) nearest (to my person).”
    43 Moses said to them: “Throw ye – that which ye are about to throw!”
    44 So they threw their ropes and their rods, and said: “By the might of Pharaoh, it is we who will certainly win!”
    45 Then Moses threw his rod, when, behold, it straightway swallows up all the falsehoods which they fake!
    46 Then did the sorcerers fall down, prostrate in adoration,
    47 Saying: “We believe in the Lord of the Worlds,
    48 “The Lord of Moses and Aaron.”
    49 Said (Pharaoh): “Believe ye in Him before I give you permission? surely he is your leader, who has taught you sorcery! but soon shall ye know! Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will cause you all to die on the cross!”
    50 They said: “No matter! for us, we shall but return to our Lord!
    51 “Only, our desire is that our Lord will forgive us our faults, that we may become foremost among the believers!”
    52 By inspiration we told Moses: “Travel by night with my servants; for surely ye shall be pursued.”
    53 Then Pharaoh sent heralds to (all) the Cities,
    54 (Saying): “These (Israelites) are but a small band,
    55 “And they are raging furiously against us;
    56 “But we are a multitude amply fore-warned.”
    57 So We expelled them from gardens, springs,
    58 Treasures, and every kind of honourable position;
    59 Thus it was, but We made the Children of Israel inheritors of such things.
    60 So they pursued them at sunrise.
    61 And when the two bodies saw each other, the people of Moses said: “We are sure to be overtaken.”
    62 (Moses) said: “By no means! my Lord is with me! Soon will He guide me!”
    63 Then We told Moses by inspiration: “Strike the sea with thy rod.” So it divided, and each separate part became like the huge, firm mass of a mountain.
    64 And We made the other party approach thither.
    65 We delivered Moses and all who were with him;
    66 But We drowned the others.
    67 Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    68 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    69 And rehearse to them (something of) Abraham's story.
    70 Behold, he said to his father and his people: “What worship ye?”

    71 They said: “We worship idols, and we remain constantly in attendance on them.”
    72 He said: “Do they listen to you when ye call (on them)?”
    73 “Or do you good or harm?”
    74 They said: “Nay, but we found our fathers doing thus (what we do).”
    75 He said: “Do ye then see whom ye have been worshipping,-
    76 “Ye and your fathers before you?-
    77 “For they are enemies to me; not so the Lord and Cherisher of the Worlds;
    78 “Who created me, and it is He Who guides me;
    79 “Who gives me food and drink,
    80 “And when I am ill, it is He Who cures me;
    81 “Who will cause me to die, and then to life (again);
    82 “And who, I hope, will forgive me my faults on the day of Judgment.
    83 “O my Lord! bestow wisdom on me, and join me with the righteous;
    84 “Grant me honourable mention on the tongue of truth among the latest (generations);
    85 “Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;
    86 “Forgive my father, for that he is among those astray;
    87 “And let me not be in disgrace on the Day when (men) will be raised up;-
    88 “The Day whereon neither wealth nor sons will avail,
    89 “But only he (will prosper) that brings to Allah a sound heart;
    90 “To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near,
    91 “And to those straying in Evil, the Fire will be placed in full view;
    92 “And it shall be said to them: 'Where are the (gods) ye worshipped-
    93 “'Besides Allah. Can they help you or help themselves?'
    94 “Then they will be thrown headlong into the (Fire),- they and those straying in Evil,
    95 “And the whole hosts of Iblis together.
    96 “They will say there in their mutual bickerings:
    97 “'By Allah, we were truly in an error manifest,
    98 “'When we held you as equals with the Lord of the Worlds;
    99 “'And our seducers were only those who were steeped in guilt.
    100 “'Now, then, we have none to intercede (for us),
    101 “'Nor a single friend to feel (for us).
    102 “'Now if we only had a chance of return we shall truly be of those who believe!'”
    103 Verily in this is a Sign but most of them do not believe.
    104 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    105 The people of Noah rejected the apostles.
    106 Behold, their brother Noah said to them: “Will ye not fear ((Allah))?
    107 “I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust:
    108 “So fear Allah, and obey me.
    109 “No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the Lord of the Worlds:
    110 “So fear Allah, and obey me.”
    111 They said: “Shall we believe in thee when it is the meanest that follow thee?”
    112 He said: “And what do I know as to what they do?
    113 “Their account is only with my Lord, if ye could (but) understand.
    114 “I am not one to drive away those who believe.
    115 “I am sent only to warn plainly in public.”
    116 They said: “If thou desist not, O Noah! thou shalt be stoned (to death).”
    117 He said: “O my Lord! truly my people have rejected me.
    118 “Judge Thou, then, between me and them openly, and deliver me and those of the Believers who are with me.”
    119 So We delivered him and those with him, in the Ark filled (with all creatures).
    120 Thereafter We drowned those who remained behind.
    121 Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    122 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    123 The 'Ad (people) rejected the apostles.
    124 Behold, their brother Hud said to them: “Will ye not fear ((Allah))?
    125 “I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust:
    126 “So fear Allah and obey me.
    127 “No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the Lord of the Worlds.
    128 “Do ye build a landmark on every high place to amuse yourselves?
    129 “And do ye get for yourselves fine buildings in the hope of living therein (for ever)?
    130 “And when ye exert your strong hand, do ye do it like men of absolute power?
    131 “Now fear Allah, and obey me.
    132 “Yea, fear Him Who has bestowed on you freely all that ye know.
    133 “Freely has He bestowed on you cattle and sons,-
    134 “And Gardens and Springs.
    135 “Truly I fear for you the Penalty of a Great Day.”
    136 They said: “It is the same to us whether thou admonish us or be not among (our) admonishers!
    137 “This is no other than a customary device of the ancients,
    138 “And we are not the ones to receive Pains and Penalties!”
    139 So they rejected him, and We destroyed them. Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    140 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    141 The Thamud (people) rejected the apostles.
    142 Behold, their brother Salih said to them: “Will you not fear ((Allah))?
    143 “I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust.
    144 “So fear Allah, and obey me.
    145 “No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the Lord of the Worlds.
    146 “Will ye be left secure, in (the enjoyment of) all that ye have here?-
    147 “Gardens and Springs,
    148 “And corn-fields and date-palms with spathes near breaking (with the weight of fruit)?
    149 “And ye carve houses out of (rocky) mountains with great skill.
    150 “But fear Allah and obey me;
    151 “And follow not the bidding of those who are extravagant,-
    152 “Who make mischief in the land, and mend not (their ways).”
    153 They said: “Thou art only one of those bewitched!
    154 “Thou art no more than a mortal like us: then bring us a Sign, if thou tellest the truth!”
    155 He said: “Here is a she-camel: she has a right of watering, and ye have a right of watering, (severally) on a day appointed.
    156 “Touch her not with harm, lest the Penalty of a Great Day seize you.”
    157 But they ham-strung her: then did they become full of regrets.
    158 But the Penalty seized them. Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    159 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    160 The people of Lut rejected the apostles.
    161 Behold, their brother Lut said to them: “Will ye not fear ((Allah))?
    162 “I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust.
    163 “So fear Allah and obey me.
    164 “No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the lord of the Worlds.
    165 “Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males,
    166 “And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!”
    167 They said: “If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!”
    168 He said: “I do detest your doings.”
    169 “O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!”
    170 So We delivered him and his family,- all
    171 Except an old woman who lingered behind.
    172 But the rest We destroyed utterly.
    173 We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!
    174 Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    175 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might Most Merciful.
    176 The Companions of the Wood rejected the apostles.
    177 Behold, Shu'aib said to them: “Will ye not fear ((Allah))?
    178 “I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust.
    179 “So fear Allah and obey me.
    180 “No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the Lord of the Worlds.
    181 “Give just measure, and cause no loss (to others by fraud).
    182 “And weigh with scales true and upright.
    183 “And withhold not things justly due to men, nor do evil in the land, working mischief.
    184 “And fear Him Who created you and (who created) the generations before (you)”
    185 They said
    : “Thou art only one of those bewitched!
    186 “Thou art no more than a mortal like us, and indeed we think thou art a liar!
    187 “Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!”
    188 He said: “My Lord knows best what ye do.”
    189 But they rejected him. Then the punishment of a day of overshadowing gloom seized them, and that was the Penalty of a Great Day.
    190 Verily in that is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
    191 And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
    192 Verily this is a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds:
    193 With it came down the spirit of Faith and Truth-
    194 To thy heart and mind, that thou mayest admonish.
    195 In the perspicuous Arabic tongue.
    196 Without doubt it is (announced) in the mystic Books of former peoples.
    197 Is it not a Sign to them that the Learned of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)?
    198 Had We revealed it to any of the non-Arabs,
    199 And had he recited it to them, they would not have believed in it.
    200 Thus have We caused it to enter the hearts of the sinners.
    201 They will not believe in it until they see the grievous Penalty;
    202 But the (Penalty) will come to them of a sudden, while they perceive it not;
    203 Then they will say: “Shall we be respited?”
    204 Do they then ask for Our Penalty to be hastened on?
    205 Seest thou? If We do let them enjoy (this life) for a few years,
    206 Yet there comes to them at length the (Punishment) which they were promised!
    207 It will profit them not that they enjoyed (this life)!
    208 Never did We destroy a population, but had its warners –
    209 By way of reminder; and We never are unjust.
    210 No evil ones have brought down this (Revelation):
    211 It would neither suit them nor would they be able (to produce it).
    212 Indeed they have been removed far from even (a chance of) hearing it.
    213 So call not on any other god with Allah, or thou wilt be among those under the Penalty.
    214 And admonish thy nearest kinsmen,
    215 And lower thy wing to the Believers who follow thee.
    216 Then if they disobey thee, say: “I am free (of responsibility) for what ye do!”
    217 And put thy trust on the Exalted in Might, the Merciful,-
    218 Who seeth thee standing forth (in prayer),
    219 And thy movements among those who prostrate themselves,
    220 For it is He Who heareth and knoweth all things.
    221 Shall I inform you, (O people!), on whom it is that the evil ones descend?
    222 They descend on every lying, wicked person,
    223 (Into whose ears) they pour hearsay vanities, and most of them are liars.
    224 And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them:
    225 Seest thou not that they wander distracted in every valley?-
    226 And that they say what they practise not?-
    227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!

    #226585
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,14:58)
    227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!


    We know that these days the vicissitudes could include being blown to smithereens in a market place, skyscraper or on an underground train, but what were the unjust attacks that precipitated such events?

    Stuart

    #226610
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 27 2010,03:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,14:58)
    227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!


    We know that these days the vicissitudes could include being blown to smithereens in a market place, skyscraper or on an underground train, but what were the unjust attacks that precipitated such events?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Do you believe the quranic god (as BD asserts) is the Judeo-Christian God(YHVH)?

    What think you?

    YHVH bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #226627
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,05:25)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 27 2010,03:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,14:58)
    227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!


    We know that these days the vicissitudes could include being blown to smithereens in a market place, skyscraper or on an underground train, but what were the unjust attacks that precipitated such events?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Do you believe the quranic god (as BD asserts) is the Judeo-Christian God(YHVH)?

    What think you?

    YHVH bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You'd have to tell me that. It's all in your mind, Ed, not in mine!

    Stuart

    #226628
    Stu
    Participant

    Allah=151
    YHVH=79

    I guess not.

    Stuart

    #226710
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Stuart,

                        Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #226766
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

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                        Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart

    #226775
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #226788
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2010,07:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leave it to you to put God in a Box and give HIM a number

    #226824
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,09:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2010,07:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leave it to you to put God in a Box and give HIM a number


    Treat YWVHWVH / Allah like a prisoner, you mean?

    I agree. Jail is the place for genocidal maniacs. There alternatively could be a case made for preventative detention in a psychiatric facility.

    Stuart

    #226871
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,12:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,09:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2010,07:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leave it to you to put God in a Box and give HIM a number


    Treat YWVHWVH / Allah like a prisoner, you mean?

    I agree.  Jail is the place for genocidal maniacs.  There alternatively could be a case made for preventative detention in a psychiatric facility.

    Stuart


    You don't believe in Jail STU you think it violates the rights of the offender you are totally for prisoners having consentual sex even with the guards or Judges having consentual sex with the lawyers

    #226887
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,14:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,12:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,09:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2010,07:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leave it to you to put God in a Box and give HIM a number


    Treat YWVHWVH / Allah like a prisoner, you mean?

    I agree.  Jail is the place for genocidal maniacs.  There alternatively could be a case made for preventative detention in a psychiatric facility.

    Stuart


    You don't believe in Jail STU you think it violates the rights of the offender you are totally for prisoners having consentual sex even with the guards or Judges having consentual sex with the lawyers


    I eat babies and worship fairies too.

    Stuart

    #226916
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,17:54)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,14:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,12:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,09:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2010,07:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leave it to you to put God in a Box and give HIM a number


    Treat YWVHWVH / Allah like a prisoner, you mean?

    I agree.  Jail is the place for genocidal maniacs.  There alternatively could be a case made for preventative detention in a psychiatric facility.

    Stuart


    You don't believe in Jail STU you think it violates the rights of the offender you are totally for prisoners having consentual sex even with the guards or Judges having consentual sex with the lawyers


    I eat babies and worship fairies too.

    Stuart


    I don't know if you eat babies or worship fairies but you have stated you condone any actinity between consentual adults which could include you and someone agreeing to eat their baby

    #226994
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 29 2010,02:20)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,17:54)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,14:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,12:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 28 2010,09:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2010,07:52)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2010,06:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 27 2010,21:36)
    Hi Stuart,

                         Add it up new — YHVH is GOD
                        |                                        |
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                         Bible truth —– allah is satan
       
                                       
     
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Biblecode ascii art now?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    Better known as…
    a “God Box Graph”
    or “Block Geometry”
    It's part of The Code.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leave it to you to put God in a Box and give HIM a number


    Treat YWVHWVH / Allah like a prisoner, you mean?

    I agree.  Jail is the place for genocidal maniacs.  There alternatively could be a case made for preventative detention in a psychiatric facility.

    Stuart


    You don't believe in Jail STU you think it violates the rights of the offender you are totally for prisoners having consentual sex even with the guards or Judges having consentual sex with the lawyers


    I eat babies and worship fairies too.

    Stuart


    I don't know if you eat babies or worship fairies but you have stated you condone any actinity between consentual adults which could include you and someone agreeing to eat their baby


    I'm sticking pins in my BD voodoo doll now.

    Can you feel them yet?

    Later I will slaughter a goat and read its entrails, get a tarot reading, and perhaps pop up to the local mosque for evening prayers.

    So much pointless superstitious activity to choose from.

    By the way, what business is it of yours what consenting adults do in private? How very catholic of you to be obsessed by it.

    Stuart

    #227019
    WhatIsTrue
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,03:41)
    No, I didn't agree with you at all, I said if I did agree it would still show you had no point worth noting.


    This was my original point:

    Quote
    I was simply pointing out that the bible is exactly as you would expect it to be: a reflection of the scientific thinking at the time when it was written.

    Do you dispute it?

    #227027
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 30 2010,02:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,03:41)
    No, I didn't agree with you at all, I said if I did agree it would still show you had no point worth noting.


    This was my original point:

    Quote
    I was simply pointing out that the bible is exactly as you would expect it to be: a reflection of the scientific thinking at the time when it was written.

    Do you dispute it?


    Yes, because it was not a scientific treatise. Where there are scientific statements they appear to be correct such as:

    It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
    Isaiah 40:21-23

    I dont think it would be needed to say “Globe” for instance

    Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
    ( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #30)

    This one Paragraph for instance is very accurate without using any scientific terms

    #227028
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 30 2010,02:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,03:41)
    No, I didn't agree with you at all, I said if I did agree it would still show you had no point worth noting.


    This was my original point:

    Quote

    I was simply pointing out that the bible is exactly as you would expect it to be:
    a reflection of the scientific thinking at the time when it was written.

    Do you dispute it?


    Hi WIT,

    Here are three examples of written information,
    penned long before Science has been able to confirm!

    1) Biochemistry: Pig is an unhealthy animal to consume for sustenance.
    Leviticus 11:7 …the swine …he is unclean to you.
    Pigs are scavenger animals, eating both dung and carcass remains.
    Toxins are excreted out of the sweat glands of mammals, pigs don't sweat!
    Plus: Without the advent of refrigeration, pork meat is susceptible to trichinosis.

    2) Digestion: Slaughtered animals that “ARE” to be eaten,
    must first be bleed; and dead animals are not fit for human consumption
    .
    Genesis 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
    Deut.15:23 …thou shalt not eat the blood thereof; thou shalt pour it upon the ground as water.
    Leviticus 22:8 That which dieth of itself, or is torn with beasts, he shall not eat to defile himself therewith.

    3) Astronomy: The Earth is round and that the Universe is ever expanding
    Isaiah 40:22 …the circle of the earth, and …that stretcheth out
    the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
    Job 26:7 He …hangeth the earth upon nothing. (Gravitational forces hold it's position)

    eth: suffix -used to form the archaic third person singular present in verbs <doeth>

    stretch: to extend in length, to extend or expand, to enlarge,
    to become extended in length or breadth or both,
    to extend over a continuous period.

    Heavens: the expanse of space, celestial.

    spread: to open or expand over a large area, to stretch out: extend,
    to distribute over an area, to become dispersed, the act or process of spreading.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #227032
    WhatIsTrue
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 29 2010,22:27)

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 30 2010,02:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2010,03:41)
    No, I didn't agree with you at all, I said if I did agree it would still show you had no point worth noting.


    This was my original point:

    Quote
    I was simply pointing out that the bible is exactly as you would expect it to be: a reflection of the scientific thinking at the time when it was written.

    Do you dispute it?


    Yes, because it was not a scientific treatise. Where there are scientific statements they appear to be correct such as:

    It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
    Isaiah 40:21-23

    I dont think it would be needed to say “Globe” for instance

    Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?  
    (  سورة الأنبياء  , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #30)

    This one Paragraph for instance is very accurate without using any scientific terms


    Forgive me.  I am not quite getting it.  Is the Isaiah passage that you quote literal or figurative?

    For example, when it says that “he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth”, is that a literal statement?  Furthermore, what exactly does “[stretching] out the heavens as a curtain” mean?  Does that mean the “heavens” are a solid material that can be spread out like a sheet, or is that figurative language for something else entirely?  Oh, what about “[spreading] them out as a tent to dwell in”?  Is that meant to imply that the “heavens” are a covering over our heads only, (i.e. not something that the earth is a part of), or is that figurative language for something else?

    As for the verse from the Quran, what does it even mean?  How exactly were “the heavens and the earth were joined together”?  And, what does it mean that they are now “clove … asunder”?  And, does this “[we] made from water every living thing” line contradict the bibles assertion that man was made from dirt, or does this mean something else entirely?

    I must admit that these verses are somewhat opaque compared to normal laymen descriptions of scientific concepts.  I'll clearly need an “expert” apologist to interpret.

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