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Quote And sell me back what I said to you, I can not see that you would understand what I believe from scriptures ,
And why is that Pierre?
Are you the only holy annointed one?Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,12:33) Read carefully: (THE FIFTH ANGEL).(rev.9).
Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree;
***but only those men which have *not the seal* of God in
their foreheads***.
ONLY HURT THOSE MEN *WITHOUT* THE SEAL.
ONLY 144K HAVE THE SEAL.************
(FIRST ANGEL)(rev.7).
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
HURT NOT THE EARTH;UNTILL WE HAVE SEALED THE 144K.Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
THE NUMBER SEALED=144K.Revelation 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Revelation 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Revelation 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Revelation 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
THESE ARE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN FOLLOWERS.
THEY ARE PURE IN GOD'S EYES.Revelation 7:9 After this *I* beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
THESE ARE THE CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATIONS.
(THE 144K SEALED EXCLUDED).Revelation 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Revelation 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Revelation 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 7:13 And one of the *elders* answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Revelation 7:14 And *I* said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, ***These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have *washed* their robes***, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
THESE CHRISTIANS HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES.
THEIR ROBES WERE DIRTY BEFORE THEY WENT THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION.THEY WERE NOT PERFECT.Revelation 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Revelation 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
Revelation 7:17 **For the Lamb** which is in the midst of the throne ***shall feed them***, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
THE LAMB SHALL FEED THEM;BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FED IN THEIR LIVE TIME AS CHRISTIANS.THEY WERE FED
WITH MILK AND SOOTHING WORDS.NOW THE LAMB IS GOING TO FEED THEM.There you have it.
The whole chapter plus explanations.
Come up with your own explanations if you disagree.wakeup.
That is very good Wakeup.Resting.
Quote (Resting @ Nov. 06 2013,17:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,12:33) Read carefully: (THE FIFTH ANGEL).(rev.9).
Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree;
***but only those men which have *not the seal* of God in
their foreheads***.
ONLY HURT THOSE MEN *WITHOUT* THE SEAL.
ONLY 144K HAVE THE SEAL.************
(FIRST ANGEL)(rev.7).
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
HURT NOT THE EARTH;UNTILL WE HAVE SEALED THE 144K.Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
THE NUMBER SEALED=144K.Revelation 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Revelation 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Revelation 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Revelation 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
THESE ARE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN FOLLOWERS.
THEY ARE PURE IN GOD'S EYES.Revelation 7:9 After this *I* beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
THESE ARE THE CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATIONS.
(THE 144K SEALED EXCLUDED).Revelation 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Revelation 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Revelation 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 7:13 And one of the *elders* answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Revelation 7:14 And *I* said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, ***These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have *washed* their robes***, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
THESE CHRISTIANS HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES.
THEIR ROBES WERE DIRTY BEFORE THEY WENT THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION.THEY WERE NOT PERFECT.Revelation 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Revelation 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
Revelation 7:17 **For the Lamb** which is in the midst of the throne ***shall feed them***, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
THE LAMB SHALL FEED THEM;BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FED IN THEIR LIVE TIME AS CHRISTIANS.THEY WERE FED
WITH MILK AND SOOTHING WORDS.NOW THE LAMB IS GOING TO FEED THEM.There you have it.
The whole chapter plus explanations.
Come up with your own explanations if you disagree.wakeup.
That is very good Wakeup.Resting.
Hi Resting.Thank you.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,04:01) w were are my answers
T.First take the scales off your eyes.
Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,14:32) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,04:01) w were are my answers
T.First take the scales off your eyes.
Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
wakeup.
W
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2013,05:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,14:32) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,04:01) w were are my answers
T.First take the scales off your eyes.
Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
wakeup.
W
T.I am waisting time and ink on you.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,19:57) W
You should be more serious with your answers
T.I am always serious.
1. The 144k sealed dont need washing of their robes.
Because they have followed the Lamb wheresoever He
goeth.
2.It is the multitudes that need their robes washed.
They have to go through the tribulation first.
And the ones that have past the test will be given white
clean robes,and resurrected.
3.The ones that failed the test will not be resurrected.
The survivers will not enter into the kingdom.
They will be shut out of the kingdom,and will be taught by
the jews.And the jews will be taught by the saints.
4.Inside the kingdom the jews will multiply.
And outside the kingdom,the gentiles also will multiply.
The gospel will be preached to them,for a thousand yrs.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:01) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,19:57) W
You should be more serious with your answers
T.I am always serious.
1. The 144k sealed dont need washing of their robes.
Because they have followed the Lamb wheresoever He
goeth.
2.It is the multitudes that need their robes washed.
They have to go through the tribulation first.
And the ones that have past the test will be given white
clean robes,and resurrected.
3.The ones that failed the test will not be resurrected.
The survivers will not enter into the kingdom.
They will be shut out of the kingdom,and will be taught by
the jews.And the jews will be taught by the saints.
4.Inside the kingdom the jews will multiply.
And outside the kingdom,the gentiles also will multiply.
The gospel will be preached to them,for a thousand yrs.wakeup.
wyour number one ;seems untrue ;because it would mean that they are perfect and so have never sin or have no sin,
this would not be true to scriptures
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:01) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,19:57) W
You should be more serious with your answers
T.I am always serious.
1. The 144k sealed dont need washing of their robes.
Because they have followed the Lamb wheresoever He
goeth.
2.It is the multitudes that need their robes washed.
They have to go through the tribulation first.
And the ones that have past the test will be given white
clean robes,and resurrected.
3.The ones that failed the test will not be resurrected.
The survivers will not enter into the kingdom.
They will be shut out of the kingdom,and will be taught by
the jews.And the jews will be taught by the saints.
4.Inside the kingdom the jews will multiply.
And outside the kingdom,the gentiles also will multiply.
The gospel will be preached to them,for a thousand yrs.wakeup.
wyour number one ;seems untrue ;because it would mean that they are perfect and so have never sin or have no sin,
this would not be true to scriptures
T.Of course no one is perfect, but the Son of God.
But they have followed the lamb all the way,
therefore their sins are blotted out.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:43) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,08:01) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2013,19:57) W
You should be more serious with your answers
T.I am always serious.
1. The 144k sealed dont need washing of their robes.
Because they have followed the Lamb wheresoever He
goeth.
2.It is the multitudes that need their robes washed.
They have to go through the tribulation first.
And the ones that have past the test will be given white
clean robes,and resurrected.
3.The ones that failed the test will not be resurrected.
The survivers will not enter into the kingdom.
They will be shut out of the kingdom,and will be taught by
the jews.And the jews will be taught by the saints.
4.Inside the kingdom the jews will multiply.
And outside the kingdom,the gentiles also will multiply.
The gospel will be preached to them,for a thousand yrs.wakeup.
wyour number one ;seems untrue ;because it would mean that they are perfect and so have never sin or have no sin,
this would not be true to scriptures
T.Of course no one is perfect, but the Son of God.
But they have followed the lamb all the way,
therefore their sins are blotted out.wakeup.
AGREEDI don't post here often, because I can't be bothered with silly arguments.
Here is an article on the subject of understanding the prophesies;
Blind Watchmen
Isaiah 56:9-12 All you beasts of the open country and the forest, come and eat your fill. For all of Israel’s watchmen are blind, perceiving nothing, they are all as dumb dogs that cannot bark, dreaming and sleeping. They are like greedy dogs that can never be satisfied, they are shepherds unable to understand the truth, as they go their own way. They say: Come let us fetch wine, strong drink and we will swill it down. The future will be the same as today or better still!
Isaiah 29:9-10 If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused, if you blind yourself, you will stay blinded. Be drunk, but not with wine, for the Lord has poured upon you a spirit of deep stupor. He has closed the prophetic vision and sealed the means of discerning the future to you.Jeremiah 14:11-13 The Lord said to me: Do not pray for the wellbeing of this people. Though they fast and worship Me, [but not in spirit and truth] I shall not listen to their cry on the Day of My punishment. But Lord – their leaders and pastors say to them: you will not face the terrible sword of judgement and they preach prosperity and escape from tribulation.
Jeremiah 14:14-16 The Lord answered me: These are lies that your leaders are mis- leading the people with. I have not sent them, I have not given them My commission, or spoken to them. They are giving out false teachings, useless advice and their own foolish daydreams.
Therefore, I say about those teachers and pastors who speak falsely in My Name, they will meet their end in My Day of wrath, I shall pour down upon them the disaster they deserve.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 The time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will go after their own desires and will only listen to teachers who give pleasant and easy outcomes. People will refuse to listen to true scriptural teaching. They will only believe fables and fanciful notions. Ref: REB.‘Beasts of the field’, foreigners, non Israelites. Those who have ‘encroached onto the holy Land’. Jeremiah 12:14
‘Israel’s watchmen perceive nothing’, the veil that hides the true knowledge of God’s Word is upon them, because of apostasy and idol worship. Deut. 29:4
‘If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused’, Even when the truth is presented to people who think they have it all sorted, they just cannot see it. Jeremiah 6:10
‘They preach prosperity, the prosperity theology that gives a sense of false security and escape from tribulation’, The very wrong and pretentious idea of a pre tribulation rapture, that lulls people into thinking they need do nothing.
‘People will refuse to listen to true scriptural teaching’, 2 Peter 2:1-3
But for those who make the effort to overcome the false teachings, the fictional books that proliferate on the book stalls and all the rubbish on the internet, there is hope: Psalm 78:1-8, Isaiah 55:1-3, Psalm 25:8-9, Psalm 27:11-12, Psalm 32:8. Then we look forward to; Isaiah 51:4-8, bring it on, Lord! [email protected]Quote (keras @ Dec. 11 2013,10:49) I don't post here often, because I can't be bothered with silly arguments.
Here is an article on the subject of understanding the prophesies;
Blind Watchmen
Isaiah 56:9-12 All you beasts of the open country and the forest, come and eat your fill. For all of Israel’s watchmen are blind, perceiving nothing, they are all as dumb dogs that cannot bark, dreaming and sleeping. They are like greedy dogs that can never be satisfied, they are shepherds unable to understand the truth, as they go their own way. They say: Come let us fetch wine, strong drink and we will swill it down. The future will be the same as today or better still!
Isaiah 29:9-10 If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused, if you blind yourself, you will stay blinded. Be drunk, but not with wine, for the Lord has poured upon you a spirit of deep stupor. He has closed the prophetic vision and sealed the means of discerning the future to you.Jeremiah 14:11-13 The Lord said to me: Do not pray for the wellbeing of this people. Though they fast and worship Me, [but not in spirit and truth] I shall not listen to their cry on the Day of My punishment. But Lord – their leaders and pastors say to them: you will not face the terrible sword of judgement and they preach prosperity and escape from tribulation.
Jeremiah 14:14-16 The Lord answered me: These are lies that your leaders are mis- leading the people with. I have not sent them, I have not given them My commission, or spoken to them. They are giving out false teachings, useless advice and their own foolish daydreams.
Therefore, I say about those teachers and pastors who speak falsely in My Name, they will meet their end in My Day of wrath, I shall pour down upon them the disaster they deserve.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 The time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will go after their own desires and will only listen to teachers who give pleasant and easy outcomes. People will refuse to listen to true scriptural teaching. They will only believe fables and fanciful notions. Ref: REB.‘Beasts of the field’, foreigners, non Israelites. Those who have ‘encroached onto the holy Land’. Jeremiah 12:14
‘Israel’s watchmen perceive nothing’, the veil that hides the true knowledge of God’s Word is upon them, because of apostasy and idol worship. Deut. 29:4
‘If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused’, Even when the truth is presented to people who think they have it all sorted, they just cannot see it. Jeremiah 6:10
‘They preach prosperity, the prosperity theology that gives a sense of false security and escape from tribulation’, The very wrong and pretentious idea of a pre tribulation rapture, that lulls people into thinking they need do nothing.
‘People will refuse to listen to true scriptural teaching’, 2 Peter 2:1-3
But for those who make the effort to overcome the false teachings, the fictional books that proliferate on the book stalls and all the rubbish on the internet, there is hope: Psalm 78:1-8, Isaiah 55:1-3, Psalm 25:8-9, Psalm 27:11-12, Psalm 32:8. Then we look forward to; Isaiah 51:4-8, bring it on, Lord! [email protected]
Keras.I agree with those scriptures.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
You say
“But they have followed the lamb all the way,
therefore their sins are blotted out.”Does following include the Jordan?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2014,16:33) Hi WU,
You say
“But they have followed the lamb all the way,
therefore their sins are blotted out.”Does following include the Jordan?
Nick.The 144k have followed the Lamb wheresoever He goeth.
There is found no fault in the eyes of God.I presume that they are all baptised with water.
But baptised with the Holy spirit for sure.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2014,18:14) Hi WU,
So sins are blotted out by following?
Any scripture?
Nick.Following all the written Word of God.
The commandments are in there.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2014,06:02) Hi WU,
Yes
So obeying the command to be reborn of water and the Spirit?
Nick.To be reborn out of Mother Zion.
She is spirit;her chilldren will also be spirit.Reborn out of water is not spirit.
The Holy spirit will only be given to them that are
genuine at heart.wakeup.
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