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- May 15, 2015 at 2:28 pm#797467
AndrewAD
ParticipantKerwin, perhaps it’s you who blaspheme and that is why you are so stuck in the quagmire of sin and shame. Let “the Truth”set you free!
May 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm#797468kerwin
ParticipantAndrewAD,
I am not foolish enough to claim God was tempted by sin even as we are. There is no one who sincerely believes in the one true God that will believe he is tempted by sin even as we are.
Some of those who claim Jesus is the one true God deny Jesus was tempted by sin even as we are and in doing so they deny the Son in order not to blaspheme God.
May 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm#797469NickHassan
Participanthi Andrew,
Mincing about words?
Fiddling with the nature of God is a serious matter.
Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father.
May 15, 2015 at 3:16 pm#797470AndrewAD
ParticipantLets just fiddle about words and mince on the nature of God then.
May 15, 2015 at 3:19 pm#797472NickHassan
ParticipantHi Andrew,
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
May 15, 2015 at 3:21 pm#797473AndrewAD
ParticipantBut Kerwin did God create sin? is he the author of sin? doth he not create both evil and good? if so then is he tempted by his own thoughts? but being God it’s just whatever he wants right? no temptation involved.
May 15, 2015 at 3:25 pm#797474kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Scripture is designed so that only those reborn from above can understand it
They alone can see the kingdom.Jn3
I agree as for example those that believe in the one true and Jesus Christ will not believe God was tempted by Satan in the desert but will believe Jesus was tempted by sin even as we are.
May 15, 2015 at 3:27 pm#797475AndrewAD
ParticipantKerwin,
But perhaps God in his mercy became man for your sake? and you do spite to the spirit of grace? he became thy way of escape but this you reject? and seek thine own righteousness of the law?
May 15, 2015 at 3:29 pm#797476NickHassan
ParticipantHi Andrew,
Was God in heaven if this was true?
Jesus Christ, the one you say is God, told us to pray to God in heaven.
May 15, 2015 at 3:30 pm#797477kerwin
ParticipantAndrewAd,
God is not the author of sin as being so is against his nature. He allows sin to exist and because his intelligence he is able to use it to advance righteousness. Satan is the author of sin as he is the first rebel against righteousness.
May 15, 2015 at 3:33 pm#797478AndrewAD
ParticipantDear Nick,
the NIV has nothing to do with it,I never even look at that translation.It’s clear in any translation except maybe the one you’ve conjured up in your own mind.
May 15, 2015 at 3:34 pm#797479NickHassan
ParticipantHi Andrew,
If it is clear to you so be it.
May 15, 2015 at 3:35 pm#797480AndrewAD
ParticipantSo God was in heaven but so was the Christ of St.John and this Christ even said we can pray to him.
May 15, 2015 at 3:44 pm#797481NickHassan
ParticipantHi Andrew,
The LORD in the OT is the Lord God.
The Lord of hosts is exclusively the Lord God.
Are you suggesting a man had his own heavenly throne and angels?
May 15, 2015 at 3:44 pm#797482kerwin
ParticipantAndrew,
Scripture tells me that an angel cannot save me by sacrificing himself on the cross for me and yet according God whom is greater than them did. The only way we are saved is that one of us lived by Spirit, even to the point of death. In doing so he showed that there is salvation for human beings. He did not reveal to God whom already knew but to those that would follow Jesus on the path of righteousness he walked and the angels that would give glory to God for rescuing us.
May 15, 2015 at 3:45 pm#797483NickHassan
ParticipantHi Andrew,
But when Jesus walked the earth why would he suggest praying to God in heaven if he was that God?
May 15, 2015 at 3:58 pm#797484AndrewAD
ParticipantGod is not the author of sin? then why was Jesus crucified in God’s mind before the foundation of the world? Did not God know what he was doing when he created our world and mankind? or did he just devise as time went along kind of like we do?
May 15, 2015 at 4:01 pm#797485AndrewAD
ParticipantNick,Christ humbled himself to be a man for our sake.It was for us and to be an example for us as you well know.
May 15, 2015 at 4:08 pm#797486NickHassan
ParticipantHi Andrew,
Indeed.
The Word served God.
The Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.
We can follow Jesus to be blessed too by baptism in water and the Spirit.
May 15, 2015 at 4:12 pm#797487AndrewAD
ParticipantKerwin,by your own words my friend you betray yourself in showing your utter confusion.
One of us had to live by the spirit to show the way to salvation? to show the angels who will give glory to God for rescuing us?
Oh please explain this in Greek for it to make more sense.
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